I just want to know what drumsets you play?
I play Tama Swingstar (Vintage Blue):
-22" Kick 2x
-12" Tom
-13" Tom
-16" Tom
-14" Snare

Headline:
-14" HH
-16" Crash
-18" Crash
-18" China
-20" Ride

I know that this isn't much but get a lot of insiration from this kit

ORIGINAL: Ozmoziz
I know that this isn't much but get a lot of insiration from this kit

See, this is why I play guitar, insiration just sounds horribly painfull.



Please ignore the guitarist and continue with your regulairly scheduled drum discussion.

Here's what I was using when I started with my new band last November...

http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/photo.asp?photoid=35&asortType=5&apage=1

The only thing I have changed is I removed the 12" Zildjian China and replaced it with a second ride... B8 line. It's not a great main ride, but it's so shimmery and wet that I use it frequently for more psychedelic stuff where it fits beautifully...

Note also, I don't use all my gear at once, I only use what I need...

Sonor F2K 10, 12, 14 (2) 18 BD’s, 12 snare - yellow (looking to sell)

Sonor Delite 13,16, 20 BD – amber (looking to sell)

Sonor Delite 10,12,14 20BD - amber (just sold)

DW 8,10,10,12,14,16, w/18,22,28BD’s –all in turquoise sparkle.

Snare Drums

6x10 DW turquoise sparkle
6x12 DW orange lacquer
5x13 DW cast aluminum w/satin hardware
6.5x14 DW Neil Peart Edge snare w/gold hardware and Starman!
7x12 Slingerland copper
3x13 pearl timbale

Sabian
16,17,18,19 HHX extreme crashes
21 HH classic ride (my baby)
One complete Paragon Set

Zildjian
18 A crash/ride drilled for rivets
13 A mastersound hats
12,20 oriental china’s
8 K splash
20 K custom dry ride
6 ice bell

Paiste
13 dark crisp hats
10 signature splash
#1-5 paiste sound disks

Wuhan
12,18 china
12 china splash w/square bell

14 UFIP natural hats
21 Istanbul ride (smokey sob)

some triangles, cowbells, englehart stuff, treeworks chimes, octobans

..wow, that's a lot of sh*t when you type it out like that. for the record, no i do not have a ginormious drum kit set up. i use all my DW pieces to make various kits for different situations. though i do set them up like NP once in a while when i jam out to moving pictures

Tama Rockstar w/pearl rack
22" kick
16" floor
13" tom
12" tom
14" snare
6" 8" 10" roto toms

All Sabian
14" AA Regular Hi-hats
12" AA Rock Splash
16" AA Rock Crash
18" AA Rock Crash
18" HH Dark Crash
22" AAX Stage Ride
22" B8 Pro China


Ludwig Vistalite - clear blue (original, not remake)
22" kick
16" floor
15" tom (monotone)
14" tom (monotone)
13" tom
12" tom
10" tom (monotone)
8" tom (monotone)
14" snare


Cymbals same as Tama set.

LP cowbell
LP temple block

Remo heads

Promark 420 MP stix

+ OCTOBARNS!!!!!!!!

I can't afford octobarns. But I love the squishy tone they produce upon striking.

When the un-numbered free emo man sees he goes *fapfapfap* because he thinks it's so yummy!

Here's some pics I just uploaded

Tama1


Tama2

Ludwig

I play the following:

Tama Rockstar Custom Drums(Custom Charcoal)/Tama Steel Drums(Chrome):

22x16 Bass Drum
12x10 Rack Tom
13x11 Rack Tom
16x16 Floor Tom
14x5.5 Snare Drum
6x3 Timbalito
8x3 Timbalito

Sabian Cymbals:

20" B8 Pro Power Rock Ride
13" B8 Hi-Hats
8" B8 Pro Splash
16" B8 Thin Crash
16" AA Thin Crash

DW Pedals:

4002 Double Pedal

Assorted Hardware:

CB, Sunlite, Tama, DW Pacific

Vic Firth Sticks:

7A Nova Hickory Sticks

Aquarian Drumheads/Evans Drumheads:

Superkick 3 on Bass Batter/EQ3 Ebony on Resonant
Performance 2's on Tom Batters/Tama Stock Resonant
Super Tough Dry on Snare Batter/Tama Stock Snare Side on Resonant
G1 Coated on Timbalitos

But in about 9 months, when I get a job, I will upgrade, but I will keep my old kit for pep band at school.

My new setup will be as follows:

Tama Starclassic Performer Drums(Walnut)/Tama Steel Drums(Chrome)/Mike Portnoy Signature Maple Snare(Black with DT Logos):

Custom Built 22x20 Kick Drum
8x8 Rack Tom
10x9 Rack Tom
12x10 Rack Tom
14x12 Mounted Floor Tom
16x13 Mounted Floor Tom(I am going to put it on my left side, so I can do some cool jungle grooves on my toms).
14x5.5 Mike Portnoy Snare Drum
6x3 Timbalito
8x3 Timbalito

Sabian Cymbals
13" B8 Hi-Hats
20" B8 Pro Power Rock Ride
8" B8 Pro Splash
16" B8 Thin Crash
16" AA Thin Crash
18" HHX Evolution O-Zone Crash
Mike Portnoy Medium Stax

Tama Pedals:

Iron Cobra Single and Double Power Glide Pedals

Tama Hardware

Gibraltar Road Racks

Vic Firth Sticks:

7A Nova Hickory Sticks

Aquarian Drumheads/Impact Pads:

Superkick 3 on Bass/Regulator on Resonant
Performance 2's on Tom Batters/High Frequencies on Resonants
Satin Texture Coated with Power Dot Underneath on Snare Batter/Classic Clear Snare Side on Resonant
Classic Clear on Timbalitos

I cannot wait until I can get this new setup. It will cost me $5,000, though!

Real Men Love Jesus.

wow some enormous kits up there. mine's a bit smaller, picture yourself some sort of TA kit.

Tama Rockstar(2003)
midnight blue

16x22
14x5.5
9x10
10x12
11x13
16x16FL

mapex janus double pedal
LP jam blocks hi n' low

14 AAX Sabian stage HHts
14 old Paiste second HHts
18 Zildjian medium crash
18 zildjian Oriental china
20 old unknown provenance ride

Simple Tama throne

BOSS DB-88 metronome

ProMark Mike Portnoy signature series MP420

You guys are gonna be jealous. I got this baby as a shell pack for $60 from the drummer of my band. Oh yeah, and its an amazingly good kit.

Groove Percussion (have no idea what model it is)
22 bass
13 tom
14 tom
16 floor tom
14 piccolo snare

Suprisingly I have a really great sound coming out of the bass drum & snare right now. And yeah, my lugs keep breaking so much to the point where the 2 rack toms & the floor toms only have top heads on and one of the toms has a broken lug on the top head. However, I can't find replacement lugs anywhere because they're really cheap and crappy and also I just do drums on the side as I'm a guitarist so I'm not gonna pay $200 to buy new lugs for the entire crappy kit & redrill...

17" Sabian B8 crash
14" Sabian B8 hihats
20" Zildjian ride

Picked up the ride used for only $35, not a bad deal for a beginner.

Hardware:
Pulse Pro DB pedal
Pacific Throne
Pacific Straight Cymbal Stand
Pacific Hihat Stand
Groove Percussion Boom Cymbal Stand

The Pulse Pro pedal is actually really great for only $80, I have no regrets going with that. The other stuff is alright, you get what you pay for.

Yeah, so I was definitely going for the lowest cost possible, and its decent. I'm actually pretty pleased with everything but the rack & floor toms because they sound like trash, probably because I only have one head on each of them.

So, if you guys have any suggestions for a cheaper solution to replacing the lugs or something, that would be great because I wish I could go back to the normal 2 heads setup...

At $60 I'd definitely consider drilling new holes and outfitting with great lugs; using the shells to support a much better hardware setup.

ORIGINAL: Phil_The_Rodent

At $60 I'd definitely consider drilling new holes and outfitting with great lugs; using the shells to support a much better hardware setup.

The thing is though I priced out how many lugs I'd need and the lowest I could find was $150 for them plus then I need to obtain the necessary stuff to drill & the shells probably are pretty crappy anyway because it is after all a cheap Groove Percussion set...so is it still really worth it? Plus, I'm probably going to be obtaining a Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier half-stack next month or so and that'll be about $1200 so I'm on a pretty tight budget...I was contemplating perhaps even within a few months just buying new shells & dealing with my hardware.

My Drums
They have changed slightly with the addition of a 13" tom on my left. Everything else is pretty much the same.

1x crappy kit.

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The thing is though I priced out how many lugs I'd need and the lowest I could find was $150 for them plus then I need to obtain the necessary stuff to drill & the shells probably are pretty crappy anyway because it is after all a cheap Groove Percussion set...so is it still really worth it? Plus, I'm probably going to be obtaining a Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier half-stack next month or so and that'll be about $1200 so I'm on a pretty tight budget...I was contemplating perhaps even within a few months just buying new shells & dealing with my hardware.

Well, I'm not so familiar with Groove Percussion products so I can't tell you any sort of worth... nor can I tell you what type of drummer or drum sound you want. As a non-metal drummer, I know that I need the full tonal qualities out of my toms. If you're pursuing metal and/or punk music, where you tune your floor tom to mud (no offense meant by this remark, when I was playing heavier music, this was my floor tom tuning of choice), you may consider ripping the bottom lugs off the floor and using them to reoutfit the shoddy ones on the toms. I assume that'll give you an extra 8, and you'll be able to tune the rack toms better and not loose much on the floor tom). If the shells are decent and not that crappy pasteboard stuff that you see in lower end kits, I'd say it's very possible that you'd want to relug your kit. Groove may be cheap because they use cheap hardware but actually have decent shells to sell you on in the showroom...

ebay may also be a good resource for lugs.

eg.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47089&item=3742489071&rd=1

ORIGINAL: Phil_The_Rodent
Well, I'm not so familiar with Groove Percussion products so I can't tell you any sort of worth... nor can I tell you what type of drummer or drum sound you want. As a non-metal drummer, I know that I need the full tonal qualities out of my toms. If you're pursuing metal and/or punk music, where you tune your floor tom to mud (no offense meant by this remark, when I was playing heavier music, this was my floor tom tuning of choice), you may consider ripping the bottom lugs off the floor and using them to reoutfit the shoddy ones on the toms. I assume that'll give you an extra 8, and you'll be able to tune the rack toms better and not loose much on the floor tom). If the shells are decent and not that crappy pasteboard stuff that you see in lower end kits, I'd say it's very possible that you'd want to relug your kit. Groove may be cheap because they use cheap hardware but actually have decent shells to sell you on in the showroom...

ebay may also be a good resource for lugs.

eg.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47089&item=3742489071&rd=1

First of all, thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it. As for my style, I'd say the main stuff I would play would be heavy rock or metal. However, that doesn't necessarily mean I want really insanely dead sounding drums. In fact, thats why I hate my toms right now, they sound really bland and dead. My bass drum I love because its got this cannon-like punch to it and my snare is pretty acceptable as well, I have it really tight. As for the floor tom, I already removed the bottom lugs from it, so unfortunately I'm at the very end. Like I said, its to the point where none of the bottom lugs exist & actually on my smaller rack tom one of the lugs is missing on the top head but I have it tuned extra tight to compensate. The only thing I have both heads on aside from the snare is the bass drum but I don't want to mess with that because I really like the sound I'm getting out of it now considering how cheap it is. And as for the shells, I really can't tell if they're decent or not because I'm not a real drummer & I'm just teaching myself to play. However, I can tell you that the covering on the outside seems kinda cheap. I just looked on Samash's website, and I think this is probably the kit with the shells I have:

Groove Percussion

So I'm not sure. And again, thanks for the help, I appreciate it a lot, because I will readily admit I don't know all that much about drums.

That's quite the link you have there, wow.

Not anymore it seems.

Yeah, sorry, just edited it.

DRUMS: TAMA MIDNIGHT BLUE ROCKSTAR
16” x 22” BASS DRUM
8” x 8” RACK TOM
9” x 10” RACK TOM
10” x 12” RACK TOM
14” x 14” FLOOR TOM
16” x 16” FLOOR TOM
5.5” x 14” TAMA MP MELODY MASTER SNARE
5” x 12” TAMA MP MELODY MASTER SNARE

CYMBALS: SABIAN
14” AAX STAGE HI HATS
7” TB RADIA CUP CHIME
7” MAX SPLASH
9” MAX SPLASH
11”MAX SPLASH
10” MID MAX STAX
12” LOW MAX STAX
16” HHXtreme CRASH
17” HH THIN CRASH
18” AA MEDIUM-THIN CRASH
18” HHX STUDIO CRASH
18” HHX CHINA
19” SIGNATURE PARAGON CHINA
22” HH ROCK RIDE

HEADS:
REMO EBONY PINSTRIPE ( TOMS )
REMO POWERSTROKE 3 ( BASS DRUM )
REMO CS PINSTRIPE ON 12”, & 14” SNARES

STICKS:
PRO MARK 420 MP
PRO MARK LIGHTNING RODS

HARDWARE:
TAMA IRON COBRA HH STAND
TAMA ROADPRO BOOM STANDS
YAMAHA SNARE STANDS
TAMA IRON COBRA POWER GLIDE DBL KICK PEDALS

PERCUSSION:
LP CYCLOPS TAMBORINE
LP CLASSIC ROCK COWBELL
LP CONCERT CHIMES

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ORIGINAL: TheGreatGC

As for my style, I'd say the main stuff I would play would be heavy rock or metal. However, that doesn't necessarily mean I want really insanely dead sounding drums. In fact, thats why I hate my toms right now, they sound really bland and dead.

Wood kick hoops, eh? Sweet. Well, there's 3 directions this conversation can go, assuming you don't want to look around on ebay (which would be highly suggested seeing as how there's ten lugs there on the first page for $2).

(a) You can consider moving to a four piece (highly recommended by me at any rate, I played many years on a 4 piece).

(b) You can think about heads. Pre-tuned heads may be an option... I've never used these... just throwing it out there... but if they're pretuned, I'm assuming you just have to use the lugs as fasteners are opposed to tensioning agents, in which case 4 lugs per drum may *actually* be an option, and breaking lugs from tightening becomes less of a permanent issue. I'd ask at your local drum store about using tensioned heads on a drum-kit that isn't designed to fit them.

(c) You should think about new heads at any rate if your drums are sounding flat. Maybe put the crap batter lug on your floor as this will be your least tensioned head, and hook up some ambassador or emperor skins on the drums, so you'll pull more tone out.

Don't get me wrong, I'm actually thinking ebay is a very good deal and I'm definitely interested, I'm just exploring my options. As for heads, right now I have some kind of Attack heads that were only like $20 for an entire set including bass drum. I was actually going to put up the money for Emperors at the time but hte store didn't have them so I went with the cheapest route. These heads are about 6 months old and have no dents in them whatsoever. However, I understand that they probably aren't the best tonally either so that doesn't mean anything. Right now, I think I might end up going the ebay route & then I'd have to buy new heads because I saved the old ones but they're absolutely maimed & hideous...the only fear I have is if I'm drilling these new holes and the drum cracks or something, won't I be totally screwed?

Yep, totally.

Mapex Pro M
18x22 kick
5 1/2x14 snare
10/12/14/16 toms

Cymbals (all sabian):
14" B8 Pro Medium HiHats (*barf*)
14" B8 Pro Thin Crash
16" AAXplosion crash
17" Pro Stage Crash
7" Max Splash
8" AAX Splash
14" AA Mini China
18" AAX China
20" AA El Sabor Ride

I have some extra cymbals, but I don't have stands for them, so they get occasionally swapped in and out of the rig.

"Either he's dead or my watch has stopped." -Groucho Marx

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i play a pearl blx. i bought it new in 1993.
it was a 12 pieces kit. at that time i was still in my peart phase and liked big kits.

as for now i play a six piece kit. from the same blx kit i scaled down.

16x22 bass
16x16 floor
10x10,10x12 and 11x13 toms
and 5 1/2 x14 sensitone steel snare.

i got a 20 hh heavy ride
13 hh bright hi hats
18 hh medium thin crash
18 hh medium crash
18 hh rock crash
two 10 hh splash
a 18 hh china
a 18 hh thin china

too lazy to type it all out, but I play Ludwig, Pearl, and I have a 9 piece vintage set of Rodgers, I love those drums. I use all Sabian cymbals, except for Zildjians w/ the Rodgers. I have thought about selling the Pearls and Ludwigs and getting a set of Tamas. But that will probably be on down the road. I use Remo heads and ProMark sticks. My hardware is all of the drum kit's makers, except my double pedals are DW.

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I have a crappy CB drums kit, B8 hi-hats,some Sabian Ride, ZBT 18 inch China cymbal.

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TO MUCH FOR TO POSSIBLY LIST

"...but that is the way it goes."
-KeithK

R I P Keith

"Dedicated to the future, with honor to the past"
-Neil Peart

Sonor S-Class Pro Maple & Craviotto Solid Maple snare.

Mapex M
Shells: Maple/basswood
Finish: Transparent Cherry Red
Sizes: 10, 12, 14, 22, 14
Cymbals: Zildjian ZXT's
2x16" thin/medium crashes, 20" medium ride, 14" solid hi-hats

Pics:

MySpace: Naigewron (music, drums, pics, info)
My band: Lucky Lew

Drums: DW
Fishish:Blood Red Sparkle Lacquer
18x22 bass
8x10,9x12,10x13,12x14,14x16 toms
5x14 cravioto snare w/ natural satin oil finish
Cymbals: Zildjian
A series Thin crash 15", K custom Dark Crash 18", K custom ride 22", A series splash 10" , 13" K custom dark HH, 18" china high, and two max stax high and low.

RIP Mr. Bojangles
12/26/03

DW in Exotic Olive Ash
20" Bass w/ Woofer
8,10,12,14,16 tom
21" Gong drum
MP 12" Melody Master

Sabian (Various)
16,17,18,19,20 crash
16,18 O-Zone crash
14, 16, 18, 20 China
8,8,7,6,10,11,9,10 splash
10" 12" Max Stax

Vic Firth 5AN

Pearl Export Select in Burgundy Mist:

8 x 10 tom
10 x 12 tom
11 x 13 tom
12 x 14 tom
16 x 16 floor tom
16 x 22 kick
5 x 14 snare

Cymbals:

14" Zildjian New Beat Hi Hats
15" Zildjian Paper Thin Crash
10" Sabian B8 Pro Splash (inverted)
10" Sabian AA Splash
20" Zildjian Medium Ride
18" Sabian B8 Pro China

As far as my kit goes (well, my new kit, anyway) here it is:

The Software
Drums:
5 pc. Pearl Session Maple + 14" Pearl Free-Floating Maple Snare + 14" Pearl Export Steel Snare (on left side)
It's set up as two rack toms, two hanging floor toms, and two snares, Thomas Lang Style
Cymbals:
I have like twenty good cymbals, so I'll list what's currently on my kit:
2 X 14" Meinl Thomas Lang Signature Filter Chinas
16" Meinl Thomas Lang Signature Synthetix Crash
17" Meinl Thomas Lang Signature Kompressor Crash
18" Meinl Thomas Lang Signature Signal Crash / Klub Ride
18" Zildjian A Custom Crash
16" Zildjian A Paperthin Crash
10" Zildjian A Custom Splash
20" Zildjian K Custom Flat Top Ride
18" Wuhan China (upside-down, of course)
22" Paiste Dark Energy Ride (Mark II)
14" Paiste Dark Energy Hi-Hats
14" Camber Cutting Edge Medium Hi-Hats
A cowbell of unknown brand (not a cymbal, so sue me)

The Hardware
I have the three sided Pearl ICON rack with the square tubing. It's wonderful. I strongly suggest it for you guys out there with larger kits.
A billion clamps, tom mounts/holders, cymbal boom arms, etc.
I use Sonor Pedals, in fact I got these from the Miami Thomas Lang Clinic, after he used 'em. They are the Giant Step double pedals (strap drive, but interchangable with a double-chain, which was included) and 400 series hi-hat stand. I also currently have two hi-hats set up on either side of my bass pedals, that is Pearl Eliminator series ( I'm using my Eliminator double pedal at my guitarist's house) and I must add that the Sonor Pedals feel better to me than any other pedal I have tried, which is almost all of them (Axis, Pearl, Tama, Mapex, Ludwig, etc. etc.)

must...practice...more....

The Hardware
I have the three sided Pearl ICON rack with the square tubing. It's wonderful. I strongly suggest it for you guys out there with larger kits.
A billion clamps, tom mounts/holders, cymbal boom arms, etc.
I use Sonor Pedals, in fact I got these from the Miami Thomas Lang Clinic, after he used 'em. They are the Giant Step double pedals (strap drive, but interchangable with a double-chain, which was included) and 400 series hi-hat stand. I also currently have two hi-hats set up on either side of my bass pedals, that is Pearl Eliminator series ( I'm using my Eliminator double pedal at my guitarist's house) and I must add that the Sonor Pedals feel better to me than any other pedal I have tried, which is almost all of them (Axis, Pearl, Tama, Mapex, Ludwig, etc. etc.)

Icon Rack Rules.

My next kit - Mapex Saturn Pro, Emerald Stardust finish, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22
My current gigging kit - Drumworld Stage Master in Amber finish, 10, 12, 13, 16, 22
My bedroom (practise) kit - cheap Performance Percussion 5 piece in blue with an extra 10 tom
My 2ndary practise kit (At our practise space) - cheap ass honer LEx kit in white

PTBW

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Pearl export. 12",13",16" toms. 14" snare. 6",8",10" rototoms. 22" bass drum. 20" paiste 302 ride. 10" paiste 502 splash. 16" unknown brand crash (its really poo). 14" headliner hats. 18" sabian solar china. pacific 402 double bass pedal.


hopefully getting a tama rockstar soon

I have two sets:

-Acoustic set:
bassdrum,3 toms,snare,hihat,3 cymbals,double pedals,cowbell

-Electric set:
Bassdrum,3 toms,snare,hihat,2 cymbals, Roland td-6 module