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Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:48 PM
Does anyone know of a good Christian metal band that doesn't growl? I've looked and looked and there is not one. Do you know know of any? I gotta hook my youth group band up with some good music. Thanks if you can help.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:00 AM
Kutless is pretty OK - even if the name is cheesy.  They're more rock than prog - but certainly not growlers
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:01 AM
just stick with Petra!
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:03 AM
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Last Tribe isn't labelled as Christian, but the lyrics appear that way to me, and the music is excellent. Same applies to Allen/Lande, it's all Magnus Karlsson really, and he's brilliant.

Have you tried http://www.metalforjesus.org?

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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:05 AM
there not prog but Stryper is good. Also, yes they do have some growly vocals but the Extol album "The Blueprint Dives" is pretty good. Or go with some Hardcore like Project 86.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:33 AM
No growls? Too bad.
If you dig growling, these two Christian prog death metal bands:
Becoming The Archetype <----my earlier post (currently still hasn't left my car player)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000AHJ7TS/qid=1134105838/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3/104-8876747-0983918?v=glance&s=music

and The Showdown (not as tech ....will get around to picking up)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00068CV8K/qid=1134105838/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8876747-0983918?v=glance&s=music

are some welcome discoveries I made, give em a chance.  
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:38 AM
I dont know too much about Neal Morse, but isnt he christian prog? I have "?" its f-ing amazing
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:47 AM
Tourniquet
Deliverance (don't think they're together anymore, though)
Bride
Die Happy
Vengance ( or Vengance Rising)
Dighayzoose
Galactic Cowboys
Believer
King's X (of course)
Sacred Warrior
Mortification (although you said NO growlies .. good band nonetheless)
Veni Domine

Yeah .. I'm old skool.  Not to sure about the bands these days.  There was a huge surge of good music back in the 90's.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 1:00 AM
You're not likely to find (m)any Christian prog bands because they won't sell. I'm sure there are some good bands out there, but we'll never hear about them. Back in the day, White Heart actually had some great tunes, but they probably won't stand the test of time. You MAY be able to pass off one or two Petra tunes, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I would go with some tunes from POD. There are a few bands like Pillar and Thousand foot Krutch that tend to be bad copycats, but POD has got some great stuff to pick from, especially the newer stuff.
 
Extol will have some good tunes to pick from on Blueprint Dives, and less but better tunes on Synergy.
 
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Anberlin, Beloved, and a few other bands on Solid State might be worth your time too.
 
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 1:52 AM
Tourniquet, Zao, Atomic Opera, Petra, and Trouble have all made innovative and influential music over the years.

Trouble in particular are a favorite of mine. Without their influence, the creation of the stoner metal and doom metal genres would not have been possible. They were wearing bellbottoms and smoking dope when everyone else was sporting spandex and snorting coke. They played slow, heavy, and thick with blues chords.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 2:30 AM
Stryper, Zao, and Petra is all i know
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 4:05 AM
petra rocks


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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 6:58 AM
I'm afraid the trouble with a lot of the Christian bands is the extreme cheesiness of the lyrics. For example, this little gem from Petra:

They laid Him in His tomb
They thought they'd sealed His doom
But He rose
He rose
He came, He saw, He conquered death and hell
He came, He saw, He is alive and well


In any case, Petra is neither prog nor metal. A long way from either...


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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 7:01 AM
Check out Neal Morse. This guy is religion himself.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 7:07 AM
Atomic Opera and Galactic Cowboys are most definitely a good start, given they were both produced by Sam Taylor,  but can I also recommend PFR? They are a bit more mainstreamy, but Goldie's Last Day, Them, etc are fantastic! Joel (not the kid in the avatar) the singer/guitarist is a very good writer, and they have worked with Phil Keaggy (another highly recomended musician to anyone) and Adrian Belew (Pour Me Out, one other song with PFR that I can't remember) to name a few. If you can handle rap, then most definitely old PoD. Brown is a most excellent start for them. Preach is by far one of the most driving songs of theirs, and wow, it just owns me every time.

WhiskeyJackle recommended Becoming the Archetype, and I listened, and lo, I loveth as well.  I just need to purchaseth this cd..eth. haha Wireless router first!

Too bad you don't like the growlies. Extol Undeceived is what got me into death metal.

BTW- Get Petra Praise, and listen to Holy of Holies, if you aren't seriously moved by that version of the old song, then you have no soul. I also LOVE John the Revelator by Phil Keaggy. That guy is just way too awesome.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 7:56 AM
There was a band I heard awhile back that I really loved....I'm not sure if they were a Christian band or not, but I'm tending to think so...They were called Balance of Power....and they rocked!
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 8:01 AM
Helloween aren't exactly prog, but it's technical metal, and awesome too. Their Andi Deris stuff seems more religious than their Hansen and Kiske stuff, but you'll find religious overtones, lyrics and so on everywhere.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 8:43 AM
Balance of Power.

Go out right now and buy Perfect Balance, Ten More Tales of Grand Illusion, and Heathen Machine. 

If you're looking for a "Best Of", buy Heathenology.

Well....?  GO!  What are you waiting for?

That's the answer to your question.  Your youth group will thank me

Neal Morse, while Prog Rock, is a close second!
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 8:52 AM
While they aren't "prog" in the truest sense, House of Heroes is a new Christian rock band. They like to riff a LOT and they list Queen, Muse and Rush as influences. My brother and I saw them live when they opened for Stryper last month. They were very good!
 
Disciple is also good, too. I think, anyway.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 8:57 AM

ORIGINAL: SteveJohnson
He came, He saw, He conquered death and hell
He came, He saw, He is alive and well



That's funny as hell! (excuse the pun)

Reminds of Sonata Arctica's gem "I see you walking hand in hand with long-haired drummer of the band"... oh the agony.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 9:18 AM
www.revelationproject.com
 
Great Christian prog, a concept album based on the book of revelations.  No growling! 
 
Also I hear their bass player is like the most coolest guy EVER.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 9:40 AM
hes not prog but Rob Rock solo stuff as well as his stint in Impetlleteri are very good
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 10:19 AM

ORIGINAL: Godzilla
I also LOVE John the Revelator by Phil Keaggy. That guy is just way too awesome.


Indeed.  That whole album is just mellow and smooth and excellently produced and wonderfully played.  Sounds great on anyday.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 10:59 AM
dc Talk is great christian music as well as Audio Adrenaline, Newsboys, Delirious are sort of "pop" christian bands
Extol, Living Sacrifice, Demon Hunter, and Zao rule but they growl quite a bit..
Grits and John Reuben is amazing rap if you're into that
Neal Morse is amazing prog
Relient K is pretty good punk, at least their newest album I thought was good
Then there's Five Iron Frenzy and O.C. Supertones which are pretty good Ska
some other ones are like Disciple, P.O.D., Kutless are pretty good as well.
 
I have quite a few more that I know of but those are just off the top of my head.  There's a lot of great christian music out there that aren't really popular because people aren't willing to even give it a try.  They're really missing out on some great bands too.  Take care
 
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 11:07 AM
If you want some serious christian metal check out Demon Hunter. They rock, it's no joke. What a name for a pro god and anti devil band, they kick.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 11:16 AM
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Although not nearly as "Christian" in his songwriting as he'd later become, Phil Keaggy's first band Glass Harp could really be considered the first band to fuse prog rock stylings with spiritual lyrics.
 
Check out www.glassharp.net for tons of stuff to watch/listen to.
 
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 11:50 AM
Almost every current Christian metal band growls for some reason, or at least the ones you can go to your local music store and buy. This has been the case for a little while. Disciple would be a great one to get, up until their new album they were getting heavier and heavier. They were like a good mix between Sevendust and the heavier side of Skid Row. I would personally recommend their albums "Back Again" or "By God". They have a new one and it is a lot more trendy and poppy sounding like they decided to add elements of Hoobastank and Linkin Park to their sound, your young people should really get into it.
 
Check out Skillet's "Collide" album it is very heavy with no growls. Tourniquet still puts stuff out every once in a while, but personally I find there newer stuff to be pretty cheesy and not something youth kids will get into much, but there first few albums are very good, my favorite being "Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance".
 
I am not sure how long ago, but way back in the day the band Tiles had a song on an HM Magazine sampler cd. They are on Inside Out records and I believe have toured with Dream Theater at some point. HM is a bi-monthly mag that covers Christian hard music, Heaven's Metal is a newer/older version of HM. HM used to be called Heaven's Metal back in the day now they are HM, but they recently started up the mag again to cover metal more in particular instead of hard rock music as a whole.
 
On a side note I have a Christian prog/metal/hard rock band that I started two years ago, we are in the process of recording our demo. I play drums and sing lead in it. I will try to post some stuff when our website gets going and we have stuff to post.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:11 PM
wow, i didn't realize that there are so many bands. I've heard of about a dozen of those bands, petra is one of my favs. i've already got us doing(trying to do anyway) covers of them. i'll check all the bands. thanks everyone
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:23 PM
how bout theocracy 
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 12:50 PM

ORIGINAL: Sokrates

Check out Neal Morse. This guy is religion himself.


Neal Morse is like...WOAH!  I've had to have listened to "?" hmm 25-30 times already...I mean...I love him and his music. (Since he had written the stuff for Transatlantic & Spocks Beard, it is great music and the lyrics definately hint the Christian way)
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 3:54 PM
Theocracy indeed... although it's more power metal with some nice prog leanings than prog....

Old school Tourniquet. The first three albums (stop the bleeding through Pathogenic Occular Dissonance) are fantastic. The vocals are kind of wierd. Not really growling, not really screaming... kind of a combination of both. LOL. When the guitar player sings it's just yelling. LOL

Vinnie Domine is superb. Queensryche type prog only heavier. Excellent vox.

As said, definately Neal Morse.

The DC Talk et al mention was interesting... definately not prog. LOL. However, DC Talk's last album, Supernatural is very Queen, Sting, and U2 influenced.  Those three guys are always very underated.

Balance of Power wasn't really a christian band nor really prog. Again, just power metal with prog leanings. On that note though, Shadow Gallery is a little more a christian band than BOP (more members claim to be christians ... Lance King was the only one I know if in BOP that claimed to be so, and wrote a lot from that standpoint.)

Anything with Kerry Livgren in it (his mid 80s project "AD" is most excellent) or John Elefante is going to have some nice prog moments. Even John's pop solo albums have some great prog moments. His Defying Gravety disc is superb... just superb. His Mastadon project is also outstanding 80s hair prog. LOL

Read this thread for more.... http://p216.ezboard.com/fnealmorsefrm7.showMessage?topicID=120.topic

Keep in mind that not being a "CCM Christian band" does not make the people in the band not christians. By the method attributing BOP a Christian band, it woudl be more than fair and equal to attribute DT a christian band with more than one member claiming to be believers.... Christians are people just like anyone else, with loves, dislikes, and the need to make a living.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 4:48 PM
Though not real heavy or proggish, Whiteheart's 'Freedom' CD is great-everything on it sounds super!! Also, Petra's Jekyll & Hyde is pretty heavy. For catchy, off-center songs, I would recommend Newsboys' 'Take Me To Your Leader" CD (this was back before all their praise stuff and it's quite fun).
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 6:00 PM
I only have one Whiteheart album .. Tales And Wonders.  Excellent album, but quite old.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Friday, December 09, 2005 7:23 PM
White Heart's second last album "Inside" was produced by Ken Scott of Dixie Dregs fame. There's a couple of cool tunes on there as well.
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:46 PM
For those who mentioned DCtalk, one of the three main guys Kevin Max has an album out called "Sterotype Be" that was co-produced by Adrian Below( who also plays on it along with Tony Levin). It's very influenced by stuff like Peter Gabriel and world musc. Very cool album.

Other great christian bands that I don't think were mentioned are Guardian, the Kry, and my currant favorite Worship guy David Crowder. David Crowder is awesome, his last cd has a concept album flow to it.

I agree Delirious and Phil Keaggy are awesome (going to see and probably meet Phil Keaggy in January!)
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:30 PM
Two quick ones:

Salem Hill: http://www.salemhill.com/main.html - amazing stuff, except the drummer uses e-drums on some of their albums

Revelation Project:  http://www.revelationproject.com/bios.aspx -I think they're heavier, but still very good stuff

I'll let you know on some more later. A Prog friend of mine knows all Christian Prog...I mean ALL .
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RE: Christian prog metal bands anyone? - Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:39 AM
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