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YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 10:32 AM
One recent problem with the forum for me personally has been the lack of Yes discussion....I mean, Yes is frequently talked about here, just not really recently...so I figure....lets talk about some Yes action....so Sal, Duke....I need backup..

Anyway...90125 is one of my favorite Yes albums....I feel it has everything a prog rock fan could possibly wnat in an album. It is masterfully played, well written, lyrically quite good and has a nice edge to it. I feel it is an album that is uderappreciated by Yes fans simply because it is an album of shorter and more consise material....the first such album of the bands to be made up of such matrial....so heres my track by track analysis.

1. Owner of a Lonely Heart: Number one hit, but still a classic. I love Trevor Rabin's guitar work and tone on this song. It is one of those songs for me that just doesnt get old. Furthermore, the video for this song also doesnt quit for me.....very well done.

2. Hold On: Cant remember if Hold on is the 2nd or 3rd track....but it really doesnt matter....I love the vocal harmony of this song.....a very good production song.

3. It Can Happen: And it did happen....though if any of you remember the video to this song..I'm not so sure that was happening...just a little bit too much makeup there John. I really don't have a whole lot to say about this song. I think it is a good tune, but not a standout....it is not overly memorable but still well played and one of those songs you sing along to.

4. Changes: One of my favorite Keyboard riffs by anyone all time...Lyrically this song is very strong as well and rocked live...good vocal alternation by John and Trevor....."Only through love changes come"....what an outstanding tune and great guitar work by trevor.

5. Cinema: Hell....just an all out great instrumental....You just cant go wrong with tune...just all around good stuff.

6. Leave It: Great tune also and stuff...The vocal harmonies still to this day trip me out on that tune...I also really like it because it is very different from the rest of the album and stuff...which is really cool....

7. Our Song: Love the keyboard part and the melody but Our Song is an otherwise forgettable tune on 90125.....If there is a filler song on the record, I guess that one is it....but it still isn't half bad.....lyrically, our song just doenst do it for me and stuff.....

8. City of Love: Great Lyrics....and one of many tips of the hat to Bob Marley in Yes lyrics..."No woman no cry"......there are actually quite a few in the yes catalog.....anyone else ever notice that?

9. Hearts: One of the highlights of the album both musically and lyrically...this song really takes you on an up and down journey and absolutly spanks live might I add...Hell of a way to close the album and stuff.

So okay....there it is and stuff....discuss this fantastic album...give your thoughts...likes, dislikes...stuff...theres mine and stuff.....okay...post away and stuff...
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 11:06 AM
Yes definitely shifted their sound and focus with this album. Fortunately for them it paid off big time. I think the album is great without sounding too "80s" over 20 years later.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 11:09 AM
Great production. Great Engineering. Great musicianship.

But, Owner of A Lonely Heart, although a huge radio success, was the weakest song on that
whole album. Really a huge re-birth for the band though.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 11:20 AM
This is the Yes album I cut my teeth on, and it still sounds great today.

People who get their rocks off by seeing the shell that is Yes today have YesWest to thank, because I can't imagine Yes still being around today if it weren't for the huge success the YesWest band had with 90125.

One HAS to give huge props to Trveor Horn for his killer production on this album. I'm not sure if he helped refine Rabin's songs, but a listen to Rabin's "90124" CD (a must for 90125/BG/Talk fans) tells me that Rabin had sowed the seeds of great songs, and Horn was able to bring out the best in them.

It's still a hope of mine that Rabin will eventually come back. Aside from "Mind Drive," which was a pretty good epic, this band has done little in the way of progression since Rabin exited. It's sad that recent Yes lineups have all but completely ignored the songs from the era that brought the band their biggest success (save for an occasional reading of "Owner" and "Rhythm of Love," which I can see Howe hating to play).

I have yet to pick up the remastered "90125" - any thoughts on it?

--Kev
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 11:46 AM
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 12:31 PM


ORIGINAL: Kevman


I have yet to pick up the remastered "90125" - any thoughts on it?

--Kev


Yeah...it sounds a ton better...a sonic masterpiece...WELL worth picking up....
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 12:35 PM
Whenever I listen to this phase of their career, something inside my brain makes me think that these are the men capable of writing and executing The Gates Of Delirium. Then I turn it off.

It's like seeing an olypmic runner stuck to a wheelchair.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 12:53 PM


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Whenever I listen to this phase of their career, something inside my brain makes me think that these are the men capable of writing and executing The Gates Of Delirium. Then I turn it off.

It's like seeing an olypmic runner stuck to a wheelchair.


I respect your opinion, but I firmly disaggree...comparing Relayer and 90125 is like apples and oranges....I mean....first off.....no howe, no moraz/wakeman on 90125....but that being said, I think rabin can hang with howe....and I think Tony Kaye played the best he could.....I think 90125 is a great album......its pretty much my favorite Yes album.....and I'm a HUGE Yes fan...I love everything they've done....but that album really hits me ya know...I love the vibe, the songs, the production, the lyrics, the mood....even the cover....great record all around......maybe you just arent playing it loud enough....
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 12:56 PM


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One recent problem with the forum for me personally has been the lack of Yes discussion....I mean, Yes is frequently talked about here, just not really recently...so I figure....lets talk about some Yes action....so Sal, Duke....I need backup..

Anyway...90125 is one of my favorite Yes albums....


A worthy and salient topic to draw me out.

I bought the cassette for 90125 on Saturdasy, December 3, 1983. The reason I know that is because it was the day after a Genesis concert I saw in Syracuse. Friends at school (all were seniors and I was a freshman) were discussing how the name of the band was intially Cinema, etc. etc. Then we all planned to travel out to Rochester to see them live.

Can't say I have a favorite Yes album, but this one will always be special for me. Saw the tour at the end of summer 1984 in Saratoga (was supposed to see themc live in ~May of '84, but my mother wouldn't let me travel to Rochester from Utica, being only 15 at the time). At the time, I really didn't like Rabin (big Howe fan). All so silly looking back.

There are so many things to like about this album. I'm sure if I bought it today and never had heard it before, I'd love it. Favorite songs (in order): Hearts, Our Song, Cinema, Changes, It Can Happen, OOALH, Hold On, Leave It. I think Anderson's voice was never better than on this album and Big Generator. Cinema is one of my favorite instrumentals. A very engrossing instrumental. Aside from the music and structure of the songs being tremendous, the album countless musical and life memories attached to it.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:09 PM
My fave Yes album.
I am not a fan of the 70's stuff, I tried and didn't like.
I like the Rabin era stuff, I picked up the re-master of 90125 and it sounds even better, bonus tracks pretty decent as well.
I'm gonna crank it in my car tomorrow
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:13 PM


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I respect your opinion, but I firmly disaggree...comparing Relayer and 90125 is like apples and oranges....I mean....first off.....no howe, no moraz/wakeman on 90125....but that being said, I think rabin can hang with howe....and I think Tony Kaye played the best he could.....I think 90125 is a great album......its pretty much my favorite Yes album.....and I'm a HUGE Yes fan...I love everything they've done....but that album really hits me ya know...I love the vibe, the songs, the production, the lyrics, the mood....even the cover....great record all around......maybe you just arent playing it loud enough....


It IS a great record, there's no denying. They recycled themselves into a very interesting band, but I find it a little frustrating.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:15 PM
very good album, but not my favourite from the band.....i prefer the 70's stuff (close to the edge, fragile and yessongs are my fav)
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:16 PM


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ORIGINAL: KeithK

I respect your opinion, but I firmly disaggree...comparing Relayer and 90125 is like apples and oranges....I mean....first off.....no howe, no moraz/wakeman on 90125....but that being said, I think rabin can hang with howe....and I think Tony Kaye played the best he could.....I think 90125 is a great album......its pretty much my favorite Yes album.....and I'm a HUGE Yes fan...I love everything they've done....but that album really hits me ya know...I love the vibe, the songs, the production, the lyrics, the mood....even the cover....great record all around......maybe you just arent playing it loud enough....


It IS a great record, there's no denying. They recycled themselves into a very interesting band, but I find it a little frustrating.


I can understand that...I mean...Yes is nothing if not constantly recycled...if I'm not mistaken...in the entire history of the band, they have never put out more than 3 consecutive albums with the same line-up.....
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:17 PM
There has always been something about this album that stands out for me. It is one of those albums in my collection that stands out and never seems to get old. The album just flows in a unique, intense and extremely catchy manner from end to end. I love to hear this album from start to finish every couple of years - usualy after I have once again forgotten how good it is.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the early Yes catalogue and would never vote this lineup over the classic config - but this one album was realy special. It is one of a handful of super commercialy successful records that I don't mind being a fan of. Fleetwood Mac's Rumors, the 1st Boston record, Deep Purples Machine Head, Green Day Dookie, Synchronicity and Dark Side of The Moon, are others that fit this category for me.

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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:20 PM
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

We were talking about this in that Uriah Heep thread recently; the fact that "maybe you had to be there" when it comes to enjoying certain music. As someone who came of age in the early 90's, I guess 80's music hating was programmed in me from the get go...the cold, tinny production values...the fakeness of the early digital instruments, guitar processing, electric drums, etc.

To me, the music of the early 90's "saved us" from all that stuff...but before that came along...in that weird netherworld in the year or two before Nirvana hit, I discovered 70's music...infact, without the interest in that sort of music, I would have never found DT when I&W came out (my interest in prog rock had led me to scoping out for new bands who might be doing that sort of music).

When I bought "Fragile" in 1990 as a young teen, I couldn't believe my ears. It took a while to register with me that the same guys who did those songs that were played on my mom's lite rock station could be so interesting. By 1992, I owned their entire catalog, and had seen the "Union" tour. It was by this time that I came to this personal conclusion: Bands who were groundbreaking in the 60's and 70's were really lame in the 80's.

I've also got to respectfully disagree with Kevman's assessment of how Yes got to the present time. By the time "Talk" hit, there was a serious, serious backlash on YesWest. If the Union album and tour was an "event" , the Talk tour was almost unnoticed. People our age (and maybe others) just about had enough of the Rabin-Yes (even though Talk is my favorite of the group). That West-coast, AOR sound was dead and buried by then, and the attendance/album sales showed it on that tour. There was now an entire new generation of fans in place (probably a lot of us here on this forum) who were dying to see Awaken, Gates of Delerium, anything from the old Yes.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:25 PM


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I came to this personal conclusion: Bands who were groundbreaking in the 60's and 70's were really lame in the 80's.


King Crimson kept kicking ass in the 80s.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:28 PM


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ORIGINAL: Noware

I came to this personal conclusion: Bands who were groundbreaking in the 60's and 70's were really lame in the 80's.


King Crimson kept kicking ass in the 80s.


KC is the exception to just about every musical rule, though.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:40 PM
You know, in one respect I was glad that Yes went more mainstream with this album because it
gave many new fans the chance to appreciate their music. It also was a more up-beat type of
music which was nice coming from Yes. The Gates of Delerium is fantastic...one of my favs
for certain, as are many other 70's era songs, but like Floyd and others before them, those
songs were sort of...downers.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 1:40 PM

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7. Our Song: Love the keyboard part and the melody but Our Song is an otherwise forgettable tune on 90125.....If there is a filler song on the record, I guess that one is it....but it still isn't half bad.....lyrically, our song just doenst do it for me and stuff.....

Our song is one of my favorite songs on the record!!

Great thread KeithK! There's so much to say about this record! It keeps getting better with every listen. It doesn't sound dated by any means and Trevor Horn did an equally bang up job on Frankie Goes to Hollywood the same year.

The very end of Hearts is so beautiful.

"As we flow down life's rivers...."

Not to mention, how many albums end with a bass harmonic?

Chris Squire is DA MAN!!
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 2:08 PM
90125 was the first album I ever became obsessed with. I was 12 and I still remember the world premiere of Owner on MTV like it was yesterday. I even caught and taped each premiere of Leave It, no matter how annoying each of the 18-20 versions were. I also remember cranking up Our Song at The Ground Round, I believe it was in the jukebox because it was the b-side to Owner.

We had Yessongs in the house years before 90125 came out, it was my sister's- and I just didn't seem to get it. 90125 (plus getting into Asia in the prior year) opened my eyes and when I went back to listen to Yessongs, it clicked. From then on, I was buying all of the earlier stuff and loving it. Old stuff/new stuff, I was loving it all. Also, the 90125 tour was the first rock concert I ever went to. Last fuckin row up top at Nassau Coliseum, but I didn't care. I wore my concert shirt proudly, even with the Sparkomatic sponsor printed right on the back of the shirt (and in the tour book)!

I remained loyal to the "YesWest" lineup because of the impact 90125 had on me- and as WilsonCat can attest (if you're reading this thread), I foolishly denied myself the ABWH era music for about a year or so to show my loyalty. In hindsight, it's all good- 90125, The Yes Album, Talk, ABWH... but 90125 will always be special to me (and probably the only album that I've had on vinyl, cassette and CD).
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 2:16 PM
I like many of its songs but I really miss Steve Howe, the band is not the same whitout him.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 2:21 PM
Hey Vulactic - make that two of us whose first concert was the 90125 tour. I also still have that black t-shirt with Sparkomatic printed on the back. A bit small now though.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 2:24 PM


ORIGINAL: Mike_Petrucci

I like many of its songs but I really miss Steve Howe, the band is not the same whitout him.


The greek really knew what they were doing with that "logic" stuff.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 2:32 PM

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... the Talk tour was almost unnoticed. People our age (and maybe others) just about had enough of the Rabin-Yes (even though Talk is my favorite of the group). That West-coast, AOR sound was dead and buried by then, and the attendance/album sales showed it on that tour. There was now an entire new generation of fans in place (probably a lot of us here on this forum) who were dying to see Awaken, Gates of Delerium, anything from the old Yes.

You got that right. Well put.

Make It Easy (which was cut from 90125 - but not the remaster) is a great tune also. A friend at work is a huge Rabin fan, and has all his solo efforts.

Mentioned before on the Forum: I missed the Talk tour, and regret it, as I would have seen Yes on all their tours from 1984-present. Would like to see Rabin do something with Yes in the future, but I think I've changed my mind recently on seeing them live in a large-scale reunion. I honestly think I've seen all the Yesshows I will. It was a good run too. I thank Dream Theater for bringing me out to the last 2 Yesshows, 'cause I thought the Toronto show as THE last Yesshow.

Date -- Concert - Venue -- City State
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04/23/82 -- Asia - Stanley Perf. Arts Center -- Utica, NY
07/31/83 -- Asia - Saratoga Perf. Arts Center -- Saratoga, NY
08/27/84 -- Yes - Saratoga Perf. Arts Center -- Saratoga, NY
06/21/86 -- GTR (Steve Howe & Steve Hackett) - Stanley Perf. Arts Center -- Utica, NY
12/01/87 -- Yes - Onondaga County War Memorial -- Syracuse, NY
02/06/88 -- Yes - Broome County Arena -- Binghamton, NY
08/19/89 -- Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - Darien Lake Perf. Arts Center -- Darien Center, NY
04/25/91 -- Yes - Knickerbocker Arena -- Albany, NY
11/10/97 -- Yes - Shea's Perf. Arts Center -- Buffalo, NY
07/04/98 -- Yes - Finger Lakes Perf. Arts Center -- Canandaigua, NY
11/23/99 -- Yes - Auditorium Center -- Rochester, NY
07/16/00 -- Yes - Saratoga Perf. Arts Center -- Saratoga, NY
10/17/00 -- Steve Howe (of Yes, Asia, GTR) - The Tralf -- Buffalo, NY
08/22/01 -- Yes - Artpark Mainstage -- Lewiston, NY - With Orchestra
08/05/02 -- Yes - Radio City Music Hall -- New York, NY
11/05/02 -- Yes - Blue Cross Arena -- Rochester, NY
10/31/03 -- Rick Wakeman (of Yes) - The Tralf -- Buffalo, NY
05/07/04 -- Yes - Air Canada Centre -- Toronto, Canada
08/28/04 -- Yes - Jones Beach Ampitheater -- Wantagh, NY
09/02/04 -- Yes - New York State Fair -- Syracuse, NY
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 3:22 PM
The whole YesWest -vs- Classic Yes really boils down to this: YesWest wasn't really supposed to be Yes in the first place. Jon Anderson agreed to join Cinema, which already had 4 members, Trevor, Chris, Alan, and Tony. The music had already been written and for the most part recorded. It was then agreed upon, because of the fact that 4 out of the 5 members of Cinema were at one time or another in Yes, that the band change it's name to Yes because 1)they figured Yes fans would view them as such 2)AOR radio would play Yes tunes 3)Chris owns the Yes name, 4)the label would promote it better (especially if they would write a "hit", which they did with "Owner"). I wouldn't call it a YesWest, I would call it a NewYes because it is different than anything that they had done up to that time. You may have known all of that already, and if you did, I'm sorry I wasted your time.

90125 is one of my favorite albums of all times! The songwriting, the production, all of it caught me at a very young and impressionable time in my life where if it had not been for this album, I wouldn't have found prog music for many years and I would have missed out on so much great music. "Changes", "It Can Happen", "Hearts", and "Hold On" kick my ass everytime I hear them.

And I'm especially looking forward to the DVD release of 9012Live!

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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 3:27 PM


ORIGINAL: MGD King

You may have known all of that already, and if you did, I'm sorry I wasted your time.



No, I think it's good you brought it up...I'm guessing there's a few of the younger people around here who don't remember the glorious Yes East/West debates at the dawn of the internet.

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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 3:31 PM
Owner of a Lonely Heart was probably one of the first Yes songs I heard, given that it came out in 1983 and that's about the time I really started paying attention to the radio. I do remember that my step-mom had Fragile on vinyl and I know I listened to that at least once. Either way, for me, Yes is great in all of its incarnations, classic Yes, YesWest, ABWH, Union-ized.....I find all of them appealing in their own way.

Oh, and Changes rules!
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 4:02 PM
You guys just LOOOOOVE to start these types of threads while I am at work, don't you?


I'm guessing there's a few of the younger people around here who don't remember the glorious Yes East/West debates at the dawn of the internet.


Boy, you said it! I remember them well. Especially on alt.music.yes, although flame wars went temporarily unchecked on Notes From The Edge as well. The 'Panthers' were people who thought the Drama lineup was best, the 'Troopers' liked classic Yes the best, and the 'Generators' were Rabin-era (YesWest) fans. Pretty stupid for me personally, because like many of you here, I like all eras of the band.

90125: A solid disc, outstanding production (Horn is a great behind-the-scenes man) and some great songs. I like Talk much better, but that's for another thread when you decide to do it Keith. (I like this idea btw!) The album cover and band logo STINK though. For a band with some of the greatest album covers of all time, they sure know how to put out a stinker of a cover every so often (*cough*OpenYourEyes*cough*)

When it comes right down to it, I think Rabin is a great player, writer and singer, and his voice/playing blends well with Squire/Anderson. The problem for me will always be Tony Kaye. He was great on the first three Yes albums, but should never have returned because he was a joke IMO by the time 90125 came around.

In short, I like this album, but I don't love it. To me, Yes is just not Yes without Steve Howe. But I am always quick to point out that I am not bashing Rabin at all, I think he's great. But they should have stuck to their guns and called the band Cinema.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 4:59 PM
To all you guys that think that Yes isn't Yes without Steve Howe... What do you think of their first two albums?
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 5:28 PM

ORIGINAL: MGD King
And I'm especially looking forward to the DVD release of 9012Live!


Same here. But Squire, what was he thinking with the white robe and all the appendages to the robe? A weird, wild scene it was.



ORIGINAL: Salmacis

When it comes right down to it, I think Rabin is a great player, writer and singer, and his voice/playing blends well with Squire/Anderson. The problem for me will always be Tony Kaye. He was great on the first three Yes albums, but should never have returned because he was a joke IMO by the time 90125 came around.

... To me, Yes is just not Yes without Steve Howe. But I am always quick to point out that I am not bashing Rabin at all, I think he's great. But they should have stuck to their guns and called the band Cinema.


Totally agree: Yes is not Yes without Howe.

Rabin seemed more mechanical in his playing, while I find Howe has/had more soul and virtuosity. Just opinions, that's all. I do appreciate that he carried them into the 80s and gave them some legs. I'm on the fence regarding whether Anderson should have come back for 90125. Seemed selfish of him to show up after most of Cinema's album was done, but what do I know. They are in a better place now because it, it seems.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 5:44 PM

ORIGINAL: paranoid70

To all you guys that think that Yes isn't Yes without Steve Howe... What do you think of their first two albums?


Those were with Anthony Banks, right? He seems to have a similar style to Howe, but Steve takes it to the next level.

I like those albums well enough to play them on occasion.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 5:58 PM
I like the first two albums very much. Have the re-re-remastered versions on CD. Pretty much can listen to all Yes from the 70s and 80s and take good things from it.

In 1989 I visted London, England, where a brother of mine was living at the time. I was there for about 11 days. One night, I was getting ready to fall asleep, and one radio station had some sort of "midnight album" show, and they proceeded to play Yes' first album start to finish. A very cool memory of Yes and London.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 6:26 PM

To all you guys that think that Yes isn't Yes without Steve Howe... What do you think of their first two albums?


I like them a lot - on occasion. Peter Banks was a decent guitarist and they had a great late 60's feel. Their cover of "No Opportunity..." is fantastic and still holds up today. Squire's "Beyond And Before" is another one I love dearly. Anderson and Squire were the nucleus of that band right from the beginning and Broof gave them a terrific off-jazzy feel. And as I said, Kaye was great in the early days, great organ sound. But the nanosecond that Steve Howe joined the band, they took off, right through the roof, and there was no looking back.


In 1989 I visted London, England, where a brother of mine was living at the time. I was there for about 11 days. One night, I was getting ready to fall asleep, and one radio station had some sort of "midnight album" show, and they proceeded to play Yes' first album start to finish.


Too bad they didn't play "Brother Of Mine" then, eh Duke?
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 6:33 PM

ORIGINAL: Salmacis


In 1989 I visted London, England, where a brother of mine was living at the time. I was there for about 11 days. One night, I was getting ready to fall asleep, and one radio station had some sort of "midnight album" show, and they proceeded to play Yes' first album start to finish.


Too bad they didn't play "Brother Of Mine" then, eh Duke?


Right, that would've been appropriate. I did see ABWH (&L) play it a few months later on tour though...
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 6:53 PM
Time And A Word is one of my fave Yes albums. Just below The Yes Album, Close To The Edge and Relayer.

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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 6:56 PM
I think 90125 is the worst Yes album.

...But it still rocks.
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Friday, March 25, 2005 7:22 PM


ORIGINAL: Duke

Right, that would've been appropriate. I did see ABWH (&L) play it a few months later on tour though...


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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Saturday, March 26, 2005 1:02 AM
This is wonderful....Yes discussion...I'm so happy now...I love talking about Yes.....now to bring this back to the topic of hand...90125....those who do not own the remaster, I strongly urge you to pick it up...it is well worth the buy...trust me on that....

But, Yesstorically speaking...Yes would not be around today if it was not for 90125...the classic lineup of the 70's had ran itself into the ground...the Paris sessions prove that...The drama lineup was great and I would have liked to have seen them give that a few more albums to see where it would go...but the truth is the Yes purists just weren't buying it and trevor horn just couldnt hack it live when it came to the classic yes catalog.....so 90125 was a necessity. And the style of the album was also needed. The shorter more condensed songs were needed...If Cinema had morphed into Yes and put out some grandeous concept album it would have totally flopped at that time....the early 80's strongly rebelled against that and the only bands that survived were the bands who curtailed their sound.

As for the album cover...someone mentioned they hated it.....Now, I disaggree, I think it's perfect.....I feel the colors really capture the mood of the album.....and the logo and font are very metallic, very to the point, which I feel the album is.....abstract yet very angular...a Roger Dean cover just wouldnt be fitting for that record....I also love the name of the album......90125....you just couldnt forget that name....well...until the 90's when beverly hills 90210 came out which lead to constant mispronounciations of 90125....

90125 was not the album that got me into Yes...Big Generator was...but that is a topic for another day, as are all the albums that have been discussed in this thread.....I was 11 years old and heard Love Will Find a Way on MTV.....it was playd all the time, so I bought the record....and got hooked on Yes....Right about the same time in a totally unrelated way, I also got hooked on Rush's Hold Your Fire.....anyway...it wasn't until about age 13 or 14 that I finally bought 90125 and I never looked back from there......it is the album that locked me into being a Yes fan for life.....and was a gateway to my appreciation of Yes music that was before my time, so to speak.....90125 is an album that never ever gets old for me....I could listen to it every day....and I love to hear it when I'm drinkin'!
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RE: YES Album discussion volume 1: 90125 - Saturday, March 26, 2005 1:10 AM
90125 is ok, very good in some places, but not something I would get excited about. It's got that poppy kind of sterile feel that just doesn't do it for me. Oh how I hate the 80s...
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