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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:38 PM
Oh.. that part... yep.
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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:40 PM
THE LIBIANS!!!!
 
 
Someone had to say it...
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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:04 PM
in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...

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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:09 PM

ORIGINAL: Alex Landenburg

in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...

 
 
LOL, Wrong thread 
 

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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Alex Landenburg

in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...



LOL, Wrong thread 



They were all in Back to the Future?!?!?!??


LOL
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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:43 PM

ORIGINAL: renzdrummer


ORIGINAL: RigoStar


ORIGINAL: Alex Landenburg

in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...



LOL, Wrong thread


They were all in Back to the Future?!?!?!??
LOL



That must have been the deleted scene where Marty goes back to tell his favorite singers about any unfortunate career steps they'll need to watch out for. But he didn't have time to tell LaBrie he would get food poisoning while on vacation. DAMM YOU MARTY!
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RE: Back to the Future question - Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:15 PM
Marty: "It's okay, I know C.P.R.. I know C.P.R.."
CPR Kid 'Wallet Guy' (Wesley Mann): "What's C.P.R.?"
 
CPR Kid: "Oh he went that way. I think he took your wallet!"
[to camera]
CPR Kid: I think he took his wallet. "
 
man these movies are filled with them..
 
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Back to the Future - Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:05 PM

ORIGINAL: Alex Landenburg

in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...


LMAO. I dunno why but here I am reminiscing with all these great BTTF moments and seeing this post just cracked me up

My favourite moments:

- MACFRYYY!

(Someone NEEDS to make an Owned pic from that sequence)

- "THOSE BOARDS DON'T WORK ON WATER! UNLESS YOU GOT POWER!"
- "Keep it, I got a Pitbull now"
- "I wouldn't marry you even if.. even if you had a million dollars! *SMACK*"
- "I didn't know the circus was in town! Looks like he got that shirt off of a dead chinese.."
- "Check out them skins what is that Neekay (Nike) some type of Indian talk or somethin?"

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RE: Back to the Future - Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:49 PM

ORIGINAL: Katz


ORIGINAL: Alex Landenburg

in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...


LMAO. I dunno why but here I am reminiscing with all these great BTTF moments and seeing this post just cracked me up

My favourite moments:

- MACFRYYY!

(Someone NEEDS to make an Owned pic from that sequence)

- "THOSE BOARDS DON'T WORK ON WATER! UNLESS YOU GOT POWER!"
- "Keep it, I got a Pitbull now"
- "I wouldn't marry you even if.. even if you had a million dollars! *SMACK*"
- "I didn't know the circus was in town! Looks like he got that shirt off of a dead chinese.."
- "Check out them skins what is that Neekay (Nike) some type of Indian talk or somethin?"




Oh ya I guess my real favorite quote from the series is.

"McFly YOU BOJO!"
"THOSE BOARDS DON'T WORK ON WATAH!"
"UNLESS YOU'VE GOT POOOOOWOAAAHHHHHH!!!"
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 1:09 AM

ORIGINAL: Katz

- MACFRYYY!

(Someone NEEDS to make an Owned pic from that sequence)



Well, I don't have an owned pic of that part, but I do have two others:





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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 8:55 AM
I got a another question...my firnd pointed this out to me years ago. Try to follow me here. Remember in the very first scene of the first movie, they show all the clocks in Doc's workshop in 1985? There is a small clock of a person hanging off the clock tower. Does this mean that Doc knew this was all going to happen before it happened in the movie? I always wondered that.
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 9:41 AM
The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train

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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 9:58 AM

ORIGINAL: Skippy

I got a another question...my firnd pointed this out to me years ago. Try to follow me here. Remember in the very first scene of the first movie, they show all the clocks in Doc's workshop in 1985? There is a small clock of a person hanging off the clock tower. Does this mean that Doc knew this was all going to happen before it happened in the movie? I always wondered that.


That clock definitely foreshadows the ending, but it does not mean that Doc knew all along.  It is more likely a reference to Harold Lloyd's 1947 film The Sin of Harold Diddlebock.



ORIGINAL: Mystical_End

The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


When people store cars for extended periods of time, they drain the gas out of the gas tank.  And even if the gas was still in the DeLorean, it's already buried in the cave.  Going back to the cave in 1885 would interrupt the future in 1955 when 1955 Doc and Marty recover the DeLorean, thus possibly causing a paradox.

Besides, there wouldn't be much of a movie if they did that.

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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 9:58 AM
im not getting what you mean?? ive seen all of these numerous times too. can you explain a little more on what you mean by two deloreons??
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RE: Back to the Future question - Friday, September 09, 2005 10:06 AM
Wow
 
Just seen this thread
 
And I bought the trilogy off ebay today for the kids
 
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RE: Back to the Future question - Friday, September 09, 2005 10:53 AM

ORIGINAL: renzdrummer


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ORIGINAL: Alex Landenburg

in no particular order (but I couldnt pick just 5, it had to be at least 6):

Russell Allen
Ray Alder
Geoff Tate
Sebastian Bach
Freddie Mercury
Jeff Scott Soto

honorable mentions: Bruce Dickinson, JLB, Mike Vescera, Michael Kiske, Roy Khan......and so many others...



LOL, Wrong thread 



They were all in Back to the Future?!?!?!??


LOL

 
You don't remember??
 
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 11:38 AM

ORIGINAL: Mystical_End

The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


No, because if he took it out of the one Doc put there for him to take back, then there wouldn't have been gas in it in 1955 for him to then take it back to 1885. 

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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 11:51 AM

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The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


No, because if he took it out of the one Doc put there for him to take back, then there wouldn't have been gas in it in 1955 for him to then take it back to 1885. 

 
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 12:05 PM

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im not getting what you mean?? ive seen all of these numerous times too. can you explain a little more on what you mean by two deloreons??


What mystical end is talking about is, if you remember at the end of part 2 Doc and the delorean were struck by lighting sending them both bcak to the year 1885.  This leaves Marty in the year 1955 without a time machine. Doc in 1885 buries the delorean in a cave and writes Marty a letter telling him about it which ends up staying at the post office for all of this time.  So when Marty finds the 1885 delorean he and Doc55 fix it up so marty can go get Doc1985 from the year 1885.  Marty goes back to 1885 in the same car thats already stored in 1885. Thus meaning there are 2 Delroens in 1885 at this time.

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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 12:34 PM
OOOOOOHHHHHHHH YEAH. thanks man  now i remember. i have the trilogy dvd but havent watched it in a while. THANKS
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 12:40 PM
 Marty:  "Mom, you sure do know how to hydrate a pizza.- From BTTF 2.
 
Marty: Hey lighten up jerk!.
Mad Dog Tannen: (looks confused)   Mighty strong words runt!-From BTTF 3
 
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 1:14 PM

ORIGINAL: Phoojoeniam


ORIGINAL: Skippy

I got a another question...my firnd pointed this out to me years ago. Try to follow me here. Remember in the very first scene of the first movie, they show all the clocks in Doc's workshop in 1985? There is a small clock of a person hanging off the clock tower. Does this mean that Doc knew this was all going to happen before it happened in the movie? I always wondered that.


That clock definitely foreshadows the ending, but it does not mean that Doc knew all along.  It is more likely a reference to Harold Lloyd's 1947 film The Sin of Harold Diddlebock.



ORIGINAL: Mystical_End

The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


When people store cars for extended periods of time, they drain the gas out of the gas tank.  And even if the gas was still in the DeLorean, it's already buried in the cave.  Going back to the cave in 1885 would interrupt the future in 1955 when 1955 Doc and Marty recover the DeLorean, thus possibly causing a paradox.

Besides, there wouldn't be much of a movie if they did that.


Why couldnt they have just switched the 2 cars?  They would have the one with tiers and gas and there would be still one left in the cave for Marty in 1955.  What was the reason Doc couldnt return anyway?
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 1:36 PM
HE NEEDED TO GET 1.21 JIGAWATTS!!!!!!!
wait that was in part 2. i think it was because he couldnt get enough speed. thats why they used the train? I dont think it had any tires.
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 1:40 PM

ORIGINAL: GhostofCain


ORIGINAL: Phoojoeniam


ORIGINAL: Skippy

I got a another question...my firnd pointed this out to me years ago. Try to follow me here. Remember in the very first scene of the first movie, they show all the clocks in Doc's workshop in 1985? There is a small clock of a person hanging off the clock tower. Does this mean that Doc knew this was all going to happen before it happened in the movie? I always wondered that.


That clock definitely foreshadows the ending, but it does not mean that Doc knew all along.  It is more likely a reference to Harold Lloyd's 1947 film The Sin of Harold Diddlebock.



ORIGINAL: Mystical_End

The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


When people store cars for extended periods of time, they drain the gas out of the gas tank.  And even if the gas was still in the DeLorean, it's already buried in the cave.  Going back to the cave in 1885 would interrupt the future in 1955 when 1955 Doc and Marty recover the DeLorean, thus possibly causing a paradox.

Besides, there wouldn't be much of a movie if they did that.


Why couldnt they have just switched the 2 cars?  They would have the one with tiers and gas and there would be still one left in the cave for Marty in 1955.  What was the reason Doc couldnt return anyway?


It had to be replaced with 1955 parts and new tires, etc. The tools needed to mount the tires and replace all the old parts would not have been available.
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 2:32 PM
in looking on Crispin Glover's imdb profile, he is to portray "Grendel" in an upcoming version of BEOWULF. Should be something to remember..2007 it says..
 
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 3:14 PM

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in looking on Crispin Glover's imdb profile, he is to portray "Grendel" in an upcoming version of BEOWULF. Should be something to remember..2007 it says..

Kyle

 
He's sooo F'n creepy! Ever see Willard? BUt my fav Crispin Glover role is River's Edge. YOU AIN'T METAL 'TILL YOU SEE THIS FLICK! Keanu Reeves and Crispin Glover at thier best.
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 3:56 PM
My favourite line in BTTF 2 has got to be, "Dammit! The Skyway's jammed, we'll never make it on time!"

And I seriously did not know until reading this thread that Crispin Glover was replaced in the 2nd and 3rd movies. You guys completely blew my mind with that one.
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 7:07 PM
Kinda like "Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure" when bill tells ted to remember to get a tape recorder to fake out his bogus father "dad hey dad over here....dad...good work dude..now what...and now wyld stallyns" or "trash can remember the trash can" lol you think it was screwed up for Doc and Marty just think about how Nepoleon felt having to go back to a world without water parks!! I think if we visit Dr. Richard C. Hoaglands websight http://www.enterprisemission.com/  we can get a some what better grasp of the whole space time travel thing...or perhaps the best websight to come of age that might show evedince of a "real" Marty Mcfly ishttp://www.johntitor.com/ supposedly this dude really time traveled from the future....sweet!!!

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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 8:48 PM

ORIGINAL: Lomox


ORIGINAL: angra1

in looking on Crispin Glover's imdb profile, he is to portray "Grendel" in an upcoming version of BEOWULF. Should be something to remember..2007 it says..

Kyle


He's sooo F'n creepy! Ever see Willard? BUt my fav Crispin Glover role is River's Edge. YOU AIN'T METAL 'TILL YOU SEE THIS FLICK! Keanu Reeves and Crispin Glover at thier best.

 
[keanu]whoa..he was creepy in that flick I did[/keanu]
 
but yea..I did see parts of RIVER'S EDGE..he was deceptively creepy, fer sure ..kinda like Mrs.Voorhees
 
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RE: Back to the Future - Friday, September 09, 2005 10:39 PM


ORIGINAL: Mystical_End

The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


Yeah me too, well I guess the doc wasnt that smart after all.

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RE: Back to the Future - Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mystical_End

The thing that stuck me was in part 3 there should be two DeLoreans the one the stuck by lighting and the one marty takes back.... so he should be able to take the gas out of the one stuck and put it in the secend one, thus getting back home with out the train


Yeah me too, well I guess the doc wasnt that smart after all.


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RE: Back to the Future question - Friday, September 16, 2005 2:09 AM

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I believe it's "Take your meat hooks off her"

 
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RE: Back to the Future question - Friday, September 16, 2005 9:26 AM

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"Take your Damn Hands off Her"


I believe it's "Take your meat hooks off her"


I am quoting George Mcfly, you are quoting Biff? 


Right from the script, the meat hooks line was spoken by Marty.  It takes place early in the film in the cafeteria scene.

Marty: oh yeah, all you gotta do is go over there and ask her.
George: What, right here right now in the cafeteria? What is she said no? I don't know if
I could take that kind of rejection. Besides, I think she'd rather go with somebody else.
Marty: Who?
George: Biff.
Biff: C'mon, c'mon.
Lorraine: Leave me alone.
Biff: You want it, you know you want it, and you know you want me to give it to you.
Lorraine: Shut your filthy mouth, I'm not that kind of girl.
Biff: Well maybe you are and you just don't know it yet.
Lorraine: Get your meat hooks off of me.
Marty: You heard her she said get your meat hooks, off, uh please.
Biff: So what's it to you, butthead. You know you've been looking for a, since you're new here,
I'm gonna cut you a break, today. So why don't you make like a tree, and get out of here.

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RE: Back to the Future question - Friday, September 16, 2005 10:42 AM
i met this girl and her jiggs were bouncing all over the place, man it was funny, then i got a harddrive
 
 
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RE: Back to the Future question - Friday, September 16, 2005 11:20 AM
Wow, that went WAY off-topic.

Anyway, something else interesting I found:  The first draft of BTFF.

http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/back_to_the_future_original_draft.html

The original doesn't even mention the DeLorean, the time machine is just a simple device that shoots a beam of light.  Maybe Doc was voicing the opinion of the producers when he said, "If you're going to build a time machine, why not build it with some style?"

The power converter used to power the time machine is an early version of Mr. Fusion.  Doc discovers it working when Marty pours Coke into it powering a light bulb.

George McFly grows up to be middle-weight champion of the world instead of  a best-selling sci-fi writer.

Lorraine becomes Elaine.

No hint of the clock tower.  In order to get Marty back to 1985 (1982 in this version), he drives off with the time machine to the site of an atom-bomb test.  The radioation powers the power converter into the time machine.  They needed 4200 rads, not as impressive as 1.21 gigawatts.

And when Marty gets back to 1985 (1982), EVERYTHING has changed.  Doc has already built a flying car and lots of other inventions.  No more time traveling at all either, the only time machine was destroyed in the atom bomb blast.

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RE: Back to the Future question - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:52 PM
After watching part 3 last night, I've got a couple questions...
I don't see how Doc's headstone could say "his beloved Clara".  He wouldn't have been at the ravine in order to save her.  Doc was only down by the ravine in 1885 take 3 (when Marty came back to get him) to check out the tracks and lack of bridge.  Therefore, she would have gone in and they'd never have met in Doc's original take on 1885.
 
Also, at the festival, Buford comes looking to kill the Doc.  However, it's Marty who saves him with the pie tin.  Without Marty there the first time around, shouldn't Doc have been shot that night and not the 7th?
 
Yes?  No?
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RE: Back to the Future question - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:23 PM
No good answer on the first one, but for the shooting, didn't they say something about him being shot at the festival and it taking a number of days to die?

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RE: Back to the Future question - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:34 PM

ORIGINAL: COZ

After watching part 3 last night, I've got a couple questions...
I don't see how Doc's headstone could say "his beloved Clara".  He wouldn't have been at the ravine in order to save her.  Doc was only down by the ravine in 1885 take 3 (when Marty came back to get him) to check out the tracks and lack of bridge.  Therefore, she would have gone in and they'd never have met in Doc's original take on 1885.


Easy answer. Doc would have saved her some other way. The very fact that he went back in time altered the timeline so that Clara no longer died. It is assumed that Doc would have saved her anyway, which is how they fell in love.
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RE: Back to the Future question - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:46 PM

ORIGINAL: MusicTriviaNut
No good answer on the first one, but for the shooting, didn't they say something about him being shot at the festival and it taking a number of days to die?

Not sure, I'll have to check again.


Easy answer. Doc would have saved her some other way. The very fact that he went back in time altered the timeline so that Clara no longer died. It is assumed that Doc would have saved her anyway, which is how they fell in love.


Yeah, I guess so.  I'm sure the idea is that he met her in some dramatic fashion for them to fall in love so quickly.  As George and Lorraine did.  Coincidentally, he did so differently in two different timelines!
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RE: Back to the Future question - Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:03 PM

ORIGINAL: COZ

After watching part 3 last night, I've got a couple questions...
I don't see how Doc's headstone could say "his beloved Clara".  He wouldn't have been at the ravine in order to save her.  Doc was only down by the ravine in 1885 take 3 (when Marty came back to get him) to check out the tracks and lack of bridge.  Therefore, she would have gone in and they'd never have met in Doc's original take on 1885.


When Marty does not go back to Doc, Doc picks Clara up at the train station as originally planned.  Remember when the mayor comes by and asks Doc if he still is going to pick her up?  If Marty didn't interrupt, Doc would have done so and it would have been love at first site at the train station, without her having to take a coach by herself and falling down the ravine.


Also, at the festival, Buford comes looking to kill the Doc.  However, it's Marty who saves him with the pie tin.  Without Marty there the first time around, shouldn't Doc have been shot that night and not the 7th?

Yes?  No?


Buford says that the last time he shot someone with the pistol he was using that it took him "two whole days to die" and estimated that Doc would die "suppertime Monday," which was the 7th.
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RE: Back to the Future question - Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:09 AM
Thanks phoojoe.  Those explanations both make sense and ring a bell for me now.
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