Nuggets on Octavarium

Again what I posted on the voicesuk.net forum.There are some great posts there, I shall gather them all and add to this.
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Though this is very premature, I know the dissecting has already begun, so what all do you hear? Riffs, melodies, strings, the whole lot.

The Root Of All Evil

Toms intro - TDS 0:25 - 1:00 and of course the vocal melodies
Octavarium Title track melody 7:33 - 8:02

The Answer Lies Within

Again 8V vocal melody 2:42 - 2:48

These Walls

Nothing so far on my part

I Walk Beside You

Well its hard to pinpoint cuz it's sooo U2, mostly the vocal melodies I guess. The guitar during the chorus sounds very much like Lifting Shadows off a Dream.

Panic Attack

Ok you guys might kill me for this but in some song of St.Anger (Hear me out plz) there's this part in My World where James is singing Not only do I not know the answer, I dont even know what the question is. The riff during this part sorta resembles the intro riff of Panic Attack a little sped up. Now it's NOT a bad thing just a retarded observation.

Also there's the similarity of JP's Jaws of life & the main riff. Again my observation.

The piano part before the main chorus like over here at 1:27 - 1:43 is very Fatal Tragedy.

Never Enough

Everyone says Muse so its there somewhere or everywhere. I also hear a bit of the main riff of Just Let Me Breathe.

Sacrificied Sons

The riff that starts at 4:41 has the ACOS feel.
Someone also reported some reference in another thread dont remember which one at 7:02 - 7:32.

I'm leaving the title track for the musicians. I'm not a musician so most of the similarities I notice are purely out of what I hear and not based on notes or different progressions or time changes or whatever.

"Whoever should be found guilty of burning coal shall suffer the loss of his head." - Edward I in 1306 for pollution control.

What about that Iron Maiden moment after the guitar solo on Panick Attack? Every album should have such a healthy dose of Maiden.
 

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In Panic Attack, a keyboard riff that starts at 27 seconds and repeats itself throughout the song sounds like the castle music from Super Mario.

 
Wow, a lot of SNES references! Never Enough has some Top Gear keys and melodies.

In Panic Attack, a keyboard riff that starts at 27 seconds and repeats itself throughout the song sounds like the castle music from Super Mario.

I Walk Beside You -- the cymbals in the first minute or so mimic the drums in FII's non-album track Speak To Me.

To manifest your dreams before you manifest your fears
To navigate beyond the treachery of self despair
To find the balance between all you sense and all you see
To find the patience and the strength it takes to let it be

Some more that were posted on voices

moliver777

EVERY SONG IS IN THE KEY OF ITS NOTE ON THE KEYBOARD ON THE BACK COVER!!!!

AWESOME!!!

F - TROAE
G - TALW
A - TW
B - IWBY
C - PA
D - NE
E - SS
F - 8VM

NUGGETS! NUGGETS! NUGGETS!



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not only 8V (the track) ends with the same note as it begins, but that same note is the first piano note of TROAE and there is also the same sound effect (kinda a heart bit) so if you push the repeatbutton on your cd player you can endlessy listen to the album as the end of the last song perfectly blends in withthe beginning of the 1st one... PERFECT CIRCLE


Salmacis

Octavarium - Wayyyy too much to say about this one so I will just include the notes I jotted down as I listened for the second and third time:

00:00 - 03:48 - Floyd's "Shine On"-meets-Tangerine Dream-meets:
03:49 - Spock's Beard theme!
04:33 - Änglagård flute “Godfather” theme similarities
12:15 - Marillion keyboards with Wakeman flourishes
17:47 - Jordan’s Jingle Bells
17:55 - Spock's Beard/Neal Morse acoustic guitar break.
18:42 - Mustaine vocals with "Forgotten Sons" prayer feel
19:55 - “Godfather” theme reprise

"Whoever should be found guilty of burning coal shall suffer the loss of his head." - Edward I in 1306 for pollution control.

There is a section that I cannot find right now that where the string part sounds identical to a Dimmu Borgir tune that I can't remember the name of.  Please someone tell me you know what I'm talking about.  

When the un-numbered free emo man sees he goes *fapfapfap* because he thinks it's so yummy!

So let´s start to play with numbers...
-5 and 8 on the domino bricks
-a spider (8 legs) trapped in an Labyrinth with 8 corners ()
-an octopus (8 tentacles) with 5 fishes ( is it an accident that this very octobarn reminding picture is right to the lyrics of "Never Enough"?)
- an outline of a building with 8 corners and a star in the middle with 5 indentations
- 5 musicians doing the eighth studio album of the band

I just haven´t any clue yet of this 5:8 scale which plays a big role in this. album.

Ok, from The Root of All Evil:

 - The opening Toms are the same as the "This Dying Soul" riff.
 - The Vocals from 4:55 to 5:16 very closely mirror those form "This Dying Soul."
 - The Solo Break at 5:18 is very similar to the one from "The Glass Prison"

All I have so far.

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So let´s start to play with numbers...
-5 and 8 on the domino bricks
-a spider (8 legs) trapped in an Labyrinth with 8 corners ()
-an octopus (8 tentacles) with 5 fishes ( is it an accident that this very octobarn reminding picture is right to the lyrics of "Never Enough"?)
- an outline of a building with 8 corners and a star in the middle with 5 indentations
- 5 musicians doing the eighth studio album of the band

I just haven´t any clue yet of this 5:8 scale which plays a big role in this. album.

Thats a pretty interesting analysis

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The whole thing rocks.  I think it's an exellent record.  It's light, heavy, moody, riffy, imaginative and a great collection of songs.  All praise Mike and the boys for another masterpeice.  I'd love to compare the album to other obscure music and say it taste's like chicken but I'd much rather enjoy the musical experience while actually making love to a girl.  Amen to those who understood this.  As for the rest, flame away, I know you will.

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Some more that were posted on voices

moliver777

EVERY SONG IS IN THE KEY OF ITS NOTE ON THE KEYBOARD ON THE BACK COVER!!!!

AWESOME!!!

F - TROAE
G - TALW
A - TW
B - IWBY
C - PA
D - NE
E - SS
F - 8VM

And as far as members and black keys go, JLB is the F#. I think that's kind of neat.  

during octavarium, near the end, when JLB is like speaking, before every 2 verses you can hear MP say :

(root)
(second)
(third)
(fourth)
(fifth)
(sixth)
(seventh)
(octave) bu this one is VERY faint.

in 8varium at 9:00, during the bass groove the guitar arpegio plays the melody of Anna Lee's vocal melody

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ORIGINAL: faizoff
Octavarium - Wayyyy too much to say about this one so I will just include the notes I jotted down as I listened for the second and third time:

00:00 - 03:48 - Floyd's "Shine On"-meets-Tangerine Dream-meets:
03:49 - Spock's Beard theme!
04:33 - Änglagård flute “Godfather” theme similarities
12:15 - Marillion keyboards with Wakeman flourishes
17:47 - Jordan’s Jingle Bells
17:55 - Spock's Beard/Neal Morse acoustic guitar break.
18:42 - Mustaine vocals with "Forgotten Sons" prayer feel
19:55 - “Godfather” theme reprise

 
The keyboard break in the middle is all Styx.  I love it muchly.
 

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Also, the final piano strike is the same as the opening piano.

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Also, the final piano strike is the same as the opening piano.

Which is cool when you look at the last lyric line which says:
"This story ends where it began"
 
"sailing on the seven seize the day tripper diem's ready
jack the ripper owens wilson philips an my supper's ready
lucy in the sky with diamons dave's not here I come to save the
day for nightmare cinema show me the way to get back home
again"

I found these references so far:

Sailing on the seven seize - "seize" is exactly spoken as "seas" which would be the real meaning
Seize the day
Day Tripper - Beatles
Jack the Ripper - Morrissey
Supper's ready - Genesis
Lucy in the sky with diamonds - Beatles
Nightmare Cinema -
Cinema Show - Genesis
Get back - Beatles
Diamond Dave - David Lee Roth
Owen Wilson - an actor 
Wilson Philips - a band 
Day for night - Spock's Beard
Ripper Owens - Vocalist of Iced Earth (ex-Judas Priest)
 
CHEERZ!
 

Anyone else thought These Walls has lyrical reference to Voices? The trapped spider and lyrics like:"All emotions start to hide", "All my instincts falling into darkness", "Each time I try to speak there's a voice I'm hearing". I don't know...

Better to save the mystery than surrender to the secret

In the intro of 8V the song I first thought that it's JP playing...
But after looking into the booklet I'd say that this would be JR on Lap Steel guitar?!
 
CHEERZ!

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I Walk Beside You

Well its hard to pinpoint cuz it's sooo U2, mostly the vocal melodies I guess. The guitar during the chorus sounds very much like Lifting Shadows off a Dream.

Yeah, noticed that one too...sound pretty much like the last chorus of LSOAD!
 
CHEERZ!

Posted on the 8V Initial thoughts spoiler galore thread by the great Scotsman

Neil-o-Mac

A thought on the last section of the title track - I just figured out that the lyrics in the last section have a bit that relates to each song on the album...

"Our deadly sins feel his mortal wrath
Remove all obstacles from our path" - The Root of All Evil

"Asking quesitons
Search for clues
The answer's been right in front of you" - The Answer Lies Within

"Try to break through
Long to connect
Fall on deaf ears and failed muted breath" - These Walls

"Loyalty, trust, faith and desire
Carries love through each darkest fire" - I Walk Beside You

"Tortured insanity
A smothering hell
Try to escape but to no avail" - Panic Attack

"The calls of admirers
Who claim they adore
Drain all your lifeblood while begging for more" - Never Enough

"Innocent victims of mericless crimes
Fall prey to some madmen's impulsive designs" - Sacrificed Sons

and I think that

"Step after step
We try controlling our fate
When we finally start living it has become too late"

Might be a reference to the other parts of 8V.

WOW!

"Whoever should be found guilty of burning coal shall suffer the loss of his head." - Edward I in 1306 for pollution control.

To back up the End note thing - one repeating story
 
The kid is listening to the can at the start - talking at the end. like its all starting again.

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Artwork 5:8 stuff

black notes (band members) - 8 white notes (songs) - A full octave

a snooker table with the 8 ball

The dominos are 5 and 8 linking to the 5 band members and 8 albums

5 fish 8 octolegs

The construction diagram on the Octavarium lyrics page is in a scale of 5:8

And each corner of the Octagon goes 1:8, 2:8, 3:8, 4:8, 5:8, 6:8, 7:8, 8:8 just like the time signature to each song

5 sylables in octavarium - 5 parts in the song

Spiders legs (8)

Octagone on CD (8) - 5point star inside it

8 balls on the front - 5 birds

8 holes for the spider to get out - but he cant get out

if u count every single crow through the booklet including covers then there are 8

the construction drawing at the end of the booklet i think is of a building as it has a door and windows. this must be the octavarium that he is trapped in
 
Edit - Oh yeh and - Each song is in (or starts in) the various keys going up the keyboard. If you look at the staves in the booklet. There are the certain amounts of sharps and flats that coraspond to it

Just some details about the title track:

The main theme: C-A-G-F, C-Ab-G-F (someone said it was in F so I'm assuming without checking)

Appears slightly in the vocals of the first section
Obviusly plays a major part of the second section
Can be heard being played by the guitar while James is singing "trapped inside this octavarium" thingy
Obviously is the climax at the end of the piece

The flute theme is reprised by the orchestra right after the "trapped inside this octavarium" part

The vocal melody and chord progression of the first verse is reprised after the last lyric section with the guitar playing the melody.


Someof this might be obvious...but just putting it down.



One other thing that might worth looking at: The breaks in between songs might me made to reference each of the previous 7 albums. (Footsteps heard for Scenes from a Memory, The Whammy guitar for SDOIT, etc.)

ORIGINAL: Mike_mccabe
And each corner of the Octagon goes 1:8, 2:8, 3:8, 4:8, 5:8, 6:8, 7:8, 8:8 just like the time signature to each song

Those aren't the time signatures man, just track# out of the 8 total.  There's multiple time sigs in almost all the songs and you'd never write something in 1/8 unless it was just a single note that couldn't be fit into part of a larger measure.

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Yeh, I didnt mean that. I just ment they are shown as the time signatures to the song. The track numbers. Should have been more clear.

But that WOULD have been cool

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In the intro of 8V the song I first thought that it's JP playing...
But after looking into the booklet I'd say that this would be JR on Lap Steel guitar?!

CHEERZ!

No, it's on his new Continuum.

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Jesus... you people have too much fucking time on your hands. All I heard on the new album was far, far too much rehashing of riffs, melodies and phrasing. I for one, am sick of it. I don't care how "cool" some people think it is, it's tired, and dull now. DT obviously have the ability to write new shit, I just wish they would.

Call it "call back" or call TSD a "sequel" to TGP, that's fine, but for me, I'm sick of hearing the same little "nuggets" over and over again.

That said, I'm disappointed with this album. It's got it's moments, but on a whole, this would've fit perfectly after FII... and I hate FII.

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In the intro of 8V the song I first thought that it's JP playing...
But after looking into the booklet I'd say that this would be JR on Lap Steel guitar?!

CHEERZ!

No, it's on his new Continuum.

Na, I mean the 4-minute intro...that's definately some sort of string-instrument!
 
CHEERZ!

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That said, I'm disappointed with this album. It's got it's moments, but on a whole, this would've fit perfectly after FII... and I hate FII.

<waits for the backlash>

 
See, now I'm the other way round.  I thought TOT was just Metallica with cleverness.  This new album feels like the good old DT are back.  This is why I got into DT.
 
 

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In the intro of 8V the song I first thought that it's JP playing...
But after looking into the booklet I'd say that this would be JR on Lap Steel guitar?!

CHEERZ!

No, it's on his new Continuum.

Na, I mean the 4-minute intro...that's definately some sort of string-instrument!

CHEERZ!

No, i also think it's Jordan.
Watch the continuum clip at his website.

Nuggets I've noticed that I don't see mentioned yet:

The ending of the Answer Lies Within has a very faint pitch bend on the piano part.  This sounds very similar to an unexplained pitch bend at the end of Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky".

At 14:10 of Octavarium in the left channel there is someone who says "This is where we came in".  This is definitely a Wall reference.  At the very beginning of the Wall someone says "...we came in".  At the very end of the Wall someone says "So this is where...".

Then where the hell dows JR plays the Lap Steel?!
I still think that it's in the 8V intro...
 
CHEERZ!

You know what I love the most about this album??

Well.....the first 6 songs are really modern and DT use a lot of influences in them, and then the last 2 songs are old school prog classics.

.......So that leaves us with an album with modern and old mixed, and its awesome.

Dunno if thats a nugget or not, but thought I would mention it anyway.

Guys the nuggets on 8V are clues to a scavenger hunt:  MP has buried yet another shorn beard somewhere on the planet.
 
Let's see if Barry can find it!

Baldrick, what begins with "Come here" and ends with "Ow"?

With all these millions of nuggets and beards around, there just has to one more, it has to be there somewhere. And I'm talking about the 'eat my ass and balls' buried somewhere in it dont ya think?

"Whoever should be found guilty of burning coal shall suffer the loss of his head." - Edward I in 1306 for pollution control.

I'm thinking that the whole album is a nugget of some sort....

The clue you say, is when MP said ''this album is just ONE BIG NUGGET''.

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In the intro of 8V the song I first thought that it's JP playing...
But after looking into the booklet I'd say that this would be JR on Lap Steel guitar?!

CHEERZ!

No, it's on his new Continuum.

Na, I mean the 4-minute intro...that's definately some sort of string-instrument!

CHEERZ!

No, i also think it's Jordan.
Watch the continuum clip at his website.

Could have fooled me, that sounds exactly like a Steel Guitar.

ORIGINAL: faizoff

With all these millions of nuggets and beards around, there just has to one more, it has to be there somewhere. And I'm talking about the 'eat my ass and balls' buried somewhere in it dont ya think?

Thinking of the same, but this time it´s not a morse code I think. This would be way to simple . But before caring about this special King Nugget, I like to enjoy the new DT music for quite a while and be happy with every new smaller nugget I explore.

Ah, got it!
It's his Continuum, but from 2:44 on JR plays the Lap Steel Guitar, right?
 
CHEERZ!

and the chorus of Endless Sacrifice in "The Root Of All Evil"? At ..  04:56 ??

anyone else has this --> Octavarium 9:45, it reminds me of "shores of Avalon, (Mullmuzzler)"
 
 

in Octavarium  track at 22:32 the solo tune changes to something like the  02:45 solo in ONE Last Time....

ORIGINAL: henri_ds

during octavarium, near the end, when JLB is like speaking, before every 2 verses you can hear MP say :

(root)
(second)
(third)
(fourth)
(fifth)
(sixth)
(seventh)
(octave) bu this one is VERY faint.

Yes, and each lyrical snippet that follows is a reference to the song whose key corresponds to "root", "second", etc.  AND, you can hear a musical reference in the background as the lyrics are sung.  The easiest one to hear is the "sixth" - "What would you say?"

Put on headphones, crank it and you'll be able to hear them all.

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else has this --> Octavarium 9:45, it reminds me of "shores of Avalon, (Mullmuzzler)"

I'm reminded of Shores as well during this part.

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In the intro of 8V the song I first thought that it's JP playing...
But after looking into the booklet I'd say that this would be JR on Lap Steel guitar?!

CHEERZ!

No, it's on his new Continuum.

Actually check it out, JR did bought a lap steel guitar.

Did anyone notice that there is something wrong with the right ball on the cover of the album? 

Not sure if this is intentional or not but...  the string is too short.  (the ball is hanging too high)

Maybe I need to explain...
The strings of the balls are mounted at equal distance on a bar. If you put a protractor where the ball is mounted (slightly above the edge of the booklet) and traced the middle of the swinging ball back to the other balls, it would hit the far-right stationary ball above center...

On another forum, someone brought up that on the front cover, the 8 balls represent white keys on the piano, and the birds represent black keys... Check it out.


In the picture for These Walls, the spider has no way out. (lame 'nugget', i know.)

(Hopefully MP or someone else will confirm all the nuggets throughout the cd.)

not sure if this is a nugget but its cool nontheless by the titles there are time signatures and also representing the number of the track out of the possible 8

so SS is 7 out of 8 7/8


and so on

just thought i would mention it





I LOVE THIS ALBUM!!!

anyone else also think there is 1 subtle phrase on the title track that is a nod to Pink Floyd's Echoes which I always think is a nod to the Phantom of the Opera theme?..just that little 4-note piano interval.

I noticed a nugget or 2 of this ilk in the new Shadow Gallery as well..ala Queen "And now I know, ANd I now I know" and an old SG tune or 2 reference.

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I'd just like to mention, in relation to the whole   Octavarium-containing-snippets-of-each-other-song-with-MP-dictating -in-the-background....  #1 = the ROOT of all evil. 

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I'd like to repeat everything that is said in this thread!!!
DID I GET THE NUGGET?????
 
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Read from the beginning of the thread, you are starting to repeat yourself

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ive only gotten thru the first 2 songs of the cd so far (altho i had most of it last week ), but did anyone else notice the strange second counts between songs?

"...and here's adorably boring american idol winner kris allen" - tmz.com

I'm trying to fool around with something in all the negative seconds on the album...don't worry, I'm enjoying the music too. 
 
Was it JadeSkyeDesign that had his signature "Music without hidden meaning is odius." ~Chopin. 
 
How apropo. 

To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield!

ORIGINAL: Mike_mccabe
Artwork 5:8 stuff

5 fish 8 octolegs

Not to be redunant, but the stop sign with the DT logo in the same image is (of course) 8-sided...

"This entire album is one big giant nugget" ~ Mike Portnoy [XM radio interview w/ Eddie Trunk]

8 white keys + 5 black keys = 8va

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Also, with the whole "this story ends where it begins", well an octave technically ends on the same note it began with. I dont think that was really mentioned yet.
 
About the thing with the Songs being in the key of the notes they are on in on the back cover, is that true. Cause inside where they have the lyrics they have time signatures that are different, unless they are in a mode of some sort other than major. Oh, wait, actually, I think they are right, but they are minor. Yup Yup. OK, cool.
 
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Posted on the 8V Initial thoughts spoiler galore thread by the great Scotsman

Neil-o-Mac

A thought on the last section of the title track - I just figured out that the lyrics in the last section have a bit that relates to each song on the album...

"Our deadly sins feel his mortal wrath
Remove all obstacles from our path" - The Root of All Evil

"Asking quesitons
Search for clues
The answer's been right in front of you" - The Answer Lies Within

"Try to break through
Long to connect
Fall on deaf ears and failed muted breath" - These Walls

"Loyalty, trust, faith and desire
Carries love through each darkest fire" - I Walk Beside You

"Tortured insanity
A smothering hell
Try to escape but to no avail" - Panic Attack

"The calls of admirers
Who claim they adore
Drain all your lifeblood while begging for more" - Never Enough

"Innocent victims of mericless crimes
Fall prey to some madmen's impulsive designs" - Sacrificed Sons

and I think that

"Step after step
We try controlling our fate
When we finally start living it has become too late"

Might be a reference to the other parts of 8V.

WOW!

BUGGERRRRRRR!!!!!! I JUST thought of that, JUST THIS VERY SECOND...and thought I was on to something!!!!! aaaaagh.

The only way to live is to die while you're alive.

Here's a couple things I noticed:

at the end of Panic Attack- some nice little references to Pink Floyd's "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In a Cave and Grooving With a Pict" (that's a mouthfull...)

2:36 of The Answer Lies Within- the violin in the background plays the central theme to Octavarium (with a few changes that I assume were made to stay diatonic to the key of song)

"take a kraft cheese single, stick it in your ass and rub it in her face. maybe then she'll listen" -CJF

Not sure if it was mentioned (probably was) but the piano at the end of TRoAE is palying the 8V theme.
 
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Not sure if it was mentioned (probably was) but the piano at the end of TRoAE is palying the 8V theme.

jim

First post of the thread

"Whoever should be found guilty of burning coal shall suffer the loss of his head." - Edward I in 1306 for pollution control.

ORIGINAL: gangstayoda

"This entire album is one big giant nugget" ~ Mike Portnoy [XM radio interview w/ Eddie Trunk]

 
I still think that MP NEEDS to wear a Denver Nuggets jersey at shows.

The outro of "These Walls" sounds pretty friggin' similar to the middle section of "Honor Thy Father".

ORIGINAL: Mike_mccabe

8 balls on the front - 5 birds

The balls and birds are also in order of the piano on the back with each ball representing each song and there root notes in order (F to F) and the birds representing sharps.

ORIGINAL: Sokrates

-an octopus (8 tentacles) with 5 fishes ( is it an accident that this very octobarn reminding picture is right to the lyrics of "Never Enough"?)

When I saw the octupus next to the stop sign I took it as a reference to stop with all the octopus photoshopping. Not really relevent now, since it stopped a while ago, but it may have been relevent when that part of the artwork was conceived.

If the octopus represents the 8 songs and the fish represents the 5 band members, then which band member is about to be eaten? And why are the other 4 letting it happen?

Which is cool when you look at the last lyric line which says:
"This story ends where it began"

"sailing on the seven seize the day tripper diem's ready
jack the ripper owens wilson philips an my supper's ready
lucy in the sky with diamons dave's not here I come to save the
day for nightmare cinema show me the way to get back home
again"

I found these references so far:

Sailing on the seven seize - "seize" is exactly spoken as "seas" which would be the real meaning
Seize the day
Day Tripper - Beatles
Jack the Ripper - Morrissey
Supper's ready - Genesis
Lucy in the sky with diamonds - Beatles
Nightmare Cinema -
Cinema Show - Genesis
Get back - Beatles
Diamond Dave - David Lee Roth
Owen Wilson - an actor 
Wilson Philips - a band 
Day for night - Spock's Beard
Ripper Owens - Vocalist of Iced Earth (ex-Judas Priest)
 
CHEERZ!
 

Don't forget "here I come to save the day" - Mighty Mouse (avatar bias)

Sorry if it's been said already, but the last note of Train of Thought (In the Name of God) is the first note of this album...continuing the trend since SFAM.

someone needs to string together all the outro/intro music... i wonder what it would sound like if they were placed on top of eachother, so to speak.

ORIGINAL: drdnj

Which is cool when you look at the last lyric line which says:
"This story ends where it began"

"sailing on the seven seize the day tripper diem's ready
jack the ripper owens wilson philips an my supper's ready
lucy in the sky with diamons dave's not here I come to save the
day for nightmare cinema show me the way to get back home
again"

I found these references so far:

Sailing on the seven seize - "seize" is exactly spoken as "seas" which would be the real meaning
Seize the day
Day Tripper - Beatles
Jack the Ripper - Morrissey
Supper's ready - Genesis
Lucy in the sky with diamonds - Beatles
Nightmare Cinema -
Cinema Show - Genesis
Get back - Beatles
Diamond Dave - David Lee Roth
Owen Wilson - an actor 
Wilson Philips - a band 
Day for night - Spock's Beard
Ripper Owens - Vocalist of Iced Earth (ex-Judas Priest)
 
CHEERZ!
 

Don't forget "here I come to save the day" - Mighty Mouse (avatar bias)

 
And also the "Gabba gabba hey hey" reference to the Ramones!!!

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Dunno if this has been said but I noticed that at around 4:40 into The Root Of All Evil, that passage is very similar, if not the same as a part in The Glass Prison, it is then followed by the This Dying Soul bit which was mentioned earlier.

Anyone noticed that the instrumental section in "Sacrificed Sons" from 4:41  up to the guitar solo is totally influenced by Rush´s "Natural Science"?

This is all but a couple of the musical references:

Sailing on the seven seas - OMD
Seize the day - duh
Day Tripper - Beatles
Diem's Ready -??
Jack the Ripper - Morrissey
Ripper Owens - Vocalist of Iced Earth (ex-Judas Priest)
Owen Wilson - actor
Wilson Phillips - band
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - Beatles
Diamond Dave - David Lee Roth 
Dave's Not Here - Cheech & Chong
Here I Come to Save the Day - Mighty Mouse
Day for Night - Spock's Beard
Nightmare Cinema - duh
Cinema Show - Genesis
Get back - Beatles (a stretch, I think)

Flying off the Handle -Google lists Flying off the Handle as a Christian/Jewish mag
Handle With Care - Travelling Wilburys
Careful With That Axe Eugene - Pink Floyd
Gene the Dance Machine -The Gong Show
Machine Messiah - Yes
Light my Fire - The Doors
Gabba Gabba Hey Hey - The Ramones
Hey Hey My My - Neil Young
My Generation - The Who
Home Again - take your pick

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Anyone noticed that the instrumental section in "Sacrificed Sons" from 4:41  up to the guitar solo is totally influenced by Rush´s "Natural Science"?

Yea also sounds like some part of ACOS I cant remember where. Definitely Natural Science/The Great Debate though.

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Which is cool when you look at the last lyric line which says:
"This story ends where it began"

"sailing on the seven seize the day tripper diem's ready
jack the ripper owens wilson philips an my supper's ready
lucy in the sky with diamons dave's not here I come to save the
day for nightmare cinema show me the way to get back home
again"

I found these references so far:

Sailing on the seven seize - "seize" is exactly spoken as "seas" which would be the real meaning
Seize the day
Day Tripper - Beatles
Jack the Ripper - Morrissey
Supper's ready - Genesis
Lucy in the sky with diamonds - Beatles
Nightmare Cinema -
Cinema Show - Genesis
Get back - Beatles
Diamond Dave - David Lee Roth
Owen Wilson - an actor 
Wilson Philips - a band 
Day for night - Spock's Beard
Ripper Owens - Vocalist of Iced Earth (ex-Judas Priest)
 
CHEERZ!
 

Don't forget "here I come to save the day" - Mighty Mouse (avatar bias)

And also the "Gabba gabba hey hey" reference to the Ramones!!!

Also...

Dave's not here - Cheech & Chong
seven seize - seven seas of rye - Queen

other verse:

flying off the handle with careful with
that axe eugene geen the dance machine
messiah light my fire gabba gabba
hey hey my my generation's home again

flying off the handle - well known phrase - song reference?
handle with care - George Harrison
careful with that axe eugene - Pink Floyd
gene gene the dance machine - character in the film Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
machine messiah - Yes
light my fire - The Doors
gabba gabba hey - Ramones (mentioned above)
hey hey my my - Neil Young
my generation - The Who
home again - Bob Villa show?

Edit: Damn, illusioninc mentioned most of mine while I was typing it up.

not really a nugget as it's pretty obvious, but this is the 1st and only 2nd ever album with no instrumentals songs on it. What may be a Nugget, and this is fanboy-ism to the nth degree in a way, is the fact that is, is there some connection to IandW for that reason or is there some intentional reason there was no instrumental. But that could be overanalyzing
 
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ORIGINAL: Sokrates

Anyone noticed that the instrumental section in "Sacrificed Sons" from 4:41  up to the guitar solo is totally influenced by Rush´s "Natural Science"?

Yea also sounds like some part of ACOS I cant remember where. Definitely Natural Science/The Great Debate though.

That's odd, because I get more of a Peruvian Skies/Fatal Tragedy vibe from it.  DEFINITELY F.T. when they bounce between E5 and Eb5.