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    Salmacis

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    TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 2:48 PM (permalink)
    To save the Genesis albums thread from a potential hijacking, I moved this to a new thread - in response to angra1:


    am on a big Jethro Tull binge right now as I am addicted to A Passion Play and Minstrel in the Gallery. Still need Thick as a Brick (remaster


    What others do you have? I am a Tull fanatic, and I love all their albums, but I especially recommend the post-Too Old To RNR / pre-Broadsword period: Songs From The Wood, Heavy Horses, Stormwatch and A. Also, what pre-Passion albums do you have? Obviously Aqualung and Brick are necessities, but I find Benefit to be the most underrated, it is such a great album.

     
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      RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 2:55 PM (permalink)
      Get Ænima, mang. You can't go wrong!

       
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        RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 2:56 PM (permalink)
        I find that my favorite period of Jethro Tull includes the stuff up to Thick as a Brick: Stand Up; Benefit; Aqualung; Thick as a Brick.

        My other favorites include Minstrel in the Gallery, Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses, and Crest of a Knave.

        Lastly, the other Tull album I really like is the Chateau D'isaster recordings. The official release is CD1 of Nightcap. Unfortunately, CD2 isn't all that great. If you don't know, The Chateau D'isaster recordings were scrapped due to a whole host of difficulties and such during the recording process. Tull re-did the whole album and ended up releasing A Passion Play instead. Personally, I like the Chateau tapes better than Passion Play.

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          RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 3:01 PM (permalink)
          I've only recently got into Tull but I found that I really like them. Broadsword is a favourite of mine and my band is also covering it. I haven't got any of their albums yet, but I have 3 of their bootlegs though; Curious Riff, Beasties & Watchers On The Storm. Superb!

          PS. Defining Jethro Tull moment for me? "The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles"!!
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            RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 3:03 PM (permalink)
            Trivia nugget; Tull won the first Grammy in the "Metal" catagory.

            Accurate or not??

            Great, Great music...but not metal.

            Peace out.
             
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              RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 3:05 PM (permalink)
              I have Thick As A Brick, Songs From the Wood, Stand Up, and Original Masters. I honestly love everything I have heard from Tull. I think Thick As A Brick is an absolute masterpiece, and probably my favorite epic. Is A Passion Play on league with Brick? I also really like Stand Up. Very bluesy. And Songs From the Wood is good, but I don't find myself listening to it all that often. Any reccomendations on what to get next? Heres my favorite Tull songs so you can help me out:

              1)Thick As A Brick
              2)Life Is A Long Song
              3)Skating Away on the Thin Ice of the New Day
              4)Look Into the Sun
              5)Hunting Girl
              6)Songs From the Wood

              Tull is such an amazing band. Ian Anderson is one of my favorite vocalists. Very nice folksy voice. Also, Tull's lyrics are just outstanding. Very poetic.
               
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                RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 4:15 PM (permalink)


                ORIGINAL: emtee

                Trivia nugget; Tull won the first Grammy in the "Metal" catagory.

                Accurate or not??

                Great, Great music...but not metal.

                Peace out.


                Absolutely correct. In 1988, they beat out Metallica who was HIGHLY favored due to AJFA. Of course, Tull won which surprised everyone including the band (they weren't even there).

                Metallica pissed and moaned about it for years... Is it really *metal* to give a damn about a Grammy award - I really think not. Yep, Metallica showed their true sellout colors then, we just didn't quite pick up on it at the time.

                I happened to see both bands in 1988. It was a good year for concerts.
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                  RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 4:55 PM (permalink)
                  The Chateau D'Isaster tapes also include material that was to end up on Warchild. Nobody has mentioned This Was yet, the band's first album. I've never been as big on it as the rest, maybe something to do with Martin Barre not being there yet... but I did love the rendition of "Someday The Sun Won't Shine For You" that they did when I saw them at Massey Hall in '92 on the Little Light Music tour. That was a dynamite show!

                   
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                    RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:24 PM (permalink)
                    MTV used to play their Aqualung video (live) back in the day. I just remember Ian Anderson jumping around stage with his flute in a white jumpsuit with a big A and a square around it on the chest.What did that symbol mean?
                      
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                      RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:28 PM (permalink)

                      ORIGINAL: teststumper

                      MTV used to play their Aqualung video (live) back in the day. I just remember Ian Anderson jumping around stage with his flute in a white jumpsuit with a big A and a square around it on the chest.What did that symbol mean?


                      the A album was intended to be an ian anderson solo album. somehow martin barre got involved, and the record label began to advertise it as a tull cd, much to the chagrin of the then-current members of tull, none of which were on the album save ian and martin. the big A in the square is seen all over the place on the album.

                      that's probably from the slipstream video (my guess), which was re-released witht he remastered A album this past year. still need to get that.
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                        RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:29 PM (permalink)

                        I just remember Ian Anderson jumping around stage with his flute in a white jumpsuit with a big A and a square around it on the chest.What did that symbol mean?


                        That was from the "A" tour in 1980 - they wore those because they wore them on the album cover.


                        that's probably from the slipstream video (my guess), which was re-released witht he remastered A album this past year. still need to get that.


                        Do so. It's excellent! First of all, "A" was in need of a serious remastering, and secondly the Slipstream dvd as the bonus disc is awesome!
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                          RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:29 PM (permalink)


                          ORIGINAL: Lukes Wall

                          Get Ænima, mang. You can't go wrong!

                          Hahahaha.

                          Oh man, I love Tull. All I have is Thick as a Brick and Aqualung though.

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                            RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:30 PM (permalink)
                            i've got :
                            Aqualung
                            Minstrel in the Gallery
                            Thick as a Brick, and
                            Original Masters...
                            i also bittorrented "nothing is easy: Live 1970"

                            JT is an excellent band with a unique sound.. Songs from the Wood is next on my JT to get list.
                             
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                              RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:30 PM (permalink)

                              The Chateau D'Isaster tapes also include material that was to end up on Warchild.


                              quite possibly my favourite tull material of all time! i loved the material that was released on the 20th box set, and the additional material on nightcap is even better.
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                                RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:35 PM (permalink)

                                ORIGINAL: Salmacis


                                that's probably from the slipstream video (my guess), which was re-released witht he remastered A album this past year. still need to get that.


                                Do so. It's excellent! First of all, "A" was in need of a serious remastering, and secondly the Slipstream dvd as the bonus disc is awesome!


                                oh, i plan on it.

                                tull is a weird band for me...there are times that try as i might i just can't listen to them...and then, out of nowhere, i find myself starting with this was and working through to dot com

                                fave tull albums for me likely would be:

                                benefit
                                minstrel in the gallery
                                songs from the wood
                                the broadsword and the beast
                                roots to branches

                                ...but every tull album has something to offer for sure
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                                  RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:44 PM (permalink)
                                  Thanks for the A info . Tull played with Fairport Convention at Arco Arena across from my place in 87 and I heard the sound was bad. The arena does'nt work for bands with heavy acoustic music I was told. Tull played a show in Oakland in 82 and Saga opened up when On The Loose was all over the radio. What a show that would've been if I was old enough to drive at the time.
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                                    RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:45 PM (permalink)
                                    Like most people who've posted, I have a hard time picking a favorite Tull album, but were I to narrow it to two, I'd have to say Thick as a Brick and Minstrel in the Gallery. The mellow stuff on Minstrel is so damn good it hurts.
                                     
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                                      RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 9:50 PM (permalink)
                                      I THink that Thick as a Brick is one of their best albums.
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                                        RE: TULL Monday, February 28, 2005 10:02 PM (permalink)


                                        ORIGINAL: Salmacis

                                        To save the Genesis albums thread from a potential hijacking, I moved this to a new thread - in response to angra1:


                                        am on a big Jethro Tull binge right now as I am addicted to A Passion Play and Minstrel in the Gallery. Still need Thick as a Brick (remaster


                                        What others do you have? I am a Tull fanatic, and I love all their albums, but I especially recommend the post-Too Old To RNR / pre-Broadsword period: Songs From The Wood, Heavy Horses, Stormwatch and A. Also, what pre-Passion albums do you have? Obviously Aqualung and Brick are necessities, but I find Benefit to be the most underrated, it is such a great album.

                                        I only have 4 albums right now, like I said..I keep trying to find a cheap TAaB remaster .

                                        I have APP, MItG, Aqualung and Krest of a Knave.

                                        1 big reason I only have this small of their discography is i never could get into Ian's vocals. But then 1 day it sorta cliqued. The same actually happened with Gabriel.

                                        I wanna get SFtW after TAaB and likely 1 of their live albums. Funnily, I have seen both Martin Barre and Ian live in the past 2 years, but have yet to see Tull themself. It was weird, Ian was so outgoing and talkative on stage, and when we met him after the show he was totally different. I guess he's like that, but having never seen him live or met him I didn't realize. Martin otoh was very cool. I got him to sign my APP book..he jammed with Willy Porter.

                                        Anyways, so yeah Tull are a recent addiction..I probably will do the same with Crimson, Kansas, Gentle Giant, ELP, Renaissance and some others who I have some stuff from but badly lack their *cream of the crop*

                                        Kyle

                                        btw..I dunno..it may be just me, but I for some reason always think of the kids story The Velveteen Rabbit when I hear "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles."..Someone should make like a short or animated film that. I still have yet to watch the thing on the enhanced portion of my copy.






                                         
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                                          RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:35 PM (permalink)
                                          I finally picked up Thick as a Brick the other nite finding it for $9 used remastered. It was on par with APP, maybe not quite as Proggy, but it's definitely in the same vein..esp considering it came before APP.

                                          Will say, there is a bassline or interval pattern of the guitar melody in the main theme at the beginning and end that is nearly identical to a phrase in Fates Warning's APSOG. I wonder if Jim Matheos was listening to TaaB back when composing that part of APSOG.

                                          and I gotta say, APP is becoming 1 of my alltime favorite albums. Honestly, I played it again just an hour ago and am marveled how perfect it is .

                                          Now I need to get Songs From the Wood, Heavy Horses, and Living in the Past..and some of the live albums.

                                          Filling the holes in my collection...TULL OWNZ!

                                          Kyle






                                           
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                                            RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:41 PM (permalink)
                                            Cool...you can't go wrong with 70's Tull. It's taken a while, but I think APP has finally started getting the recognition it deserved.

                                             
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                                              RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:41 PM (permalink)
                                              I'm gonna see Ian Anderson with an Orchestra playing Tull songs next saturday, and its gonna rock
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                                                RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:44 PM (permalink)

                                                Now I need to get Songs From the Wood, Heavy Horses, and Living in the Past..and some of the live albums.


                                                Yes. Especially the first two.

                                                I actually place Thick As A Brick slighly higher than A Passion Play, though both are excellent. It's all Tull, it's all good.


                                                 
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                                                  RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:03 PM (permalink)
                                                  When I was a kid, I used to stare at all my dad's record covers. I remember Songs from the Wood being one of my favorites, along with Jackson Browne's Lawyers in Love.
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                                                    RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:15 PM (permalink)
                                                    I have Songs From the Wood. Love it. One older brother of mine, and my best friend in high school, were big JTull fans, so it was inevitable I became a fan. I've had a few of their compilations over the years. Bursting Out Live is very entertaining. I need to get that again, or the 2 CD compilation. Saw JTull once in the 80s and once in 90s where ELP opened for them.

                                                    The vocals of JTull are wonderful. Favorite songs: Teacher/Sweet Dreams/Hunting Girl/Jack In The Green/Living In The Past/The Whistler.

                                                    They were always overplayed on the radio in Central New York growing up, so they are in the Bostonesque category for me currently, unfortunately.
                                                     
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                                                      RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:09 PM (permalink)
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                                                        RE: TULL Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:53 PM (permalink)

                                                        They were always overplayed on the radio in Central New York growing up, so they are in the Bostonesque category for me currently, unfortunately.


                                                        Ah, but when there is so much material to choose from, you can just skip the overplayed songs.

                                                        Settle down with a copy of Stormwatch and enjoy!

                                                         
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                                                          RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:41 PM (permalink)

                                                           
                                                          Been on a huge Tull kick the past few days, specifically the most recent stuff. Roots To Branches, Dot Com, the Living With The Past dvd... right now I am listening to Crest Of A Knave after being reminded of how much I love the song "Budapest", performed on the dvd. It comes across better live. I like Crest, but it is not one of my favorites of the post-Under Wraps period. For one thing, Ian sounded wayyy too much like Mark Knopfler on that album. Anyway, I really think Roots To Branches is one of their finest albums. The textures and the moodiness of that album, and it had great songwriting from Ian and a bolder setlist on the ensuing tour than usual. I am going to throw on Ian's two most recent solo albums as well, Rupi's Dance and The Secret Language Of Birds, before capping it off by going all the way back to A from 1980, still one of my favorites despite its low regard from most fans. I love most of the songs and I think it is just such a cool and unusual sounding Tull, with Jobson there on the keys and violin. A short-lived period but a memorable tour.
                                                           
                                                          Man, I love Tull.

                                                           
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                                                            RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:31 PM (permalink)
                                                            i love me some jethro tull but only the stuff up to "A" pretty much, most of the stuff after that, MOST, i didn't enjoy 'til the 90's. anywho...im only 18 but my dad got me turned onto Tull...they were even my first concert ...i've seen them 4 times i think...but anyway
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                                                              RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:34 PM (permalink)

                                                              ORIGINAL: Salmacis
                                                              Been on a huge Tull kick the past few days, specifically the most recent stuff. Roots To Branches, Dot Com, the Living With The Past dvd

                                                               
                                                              I dig Roots to Branches and Budapest on the Living with the Past dvd
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                                                                RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:50 PM (permalink)
                                                                JTull Dot Com is a kick ass album.  I was glad to see that the old bastards could still rock.
                                                                 
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                                                                  RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:51 PM (permalink)

                                                                  JTull Dot Com is a kick ass album.  I was glad to see that the old bastards could still rock.

                                                                   
                                                                  Yeah I was too. I wish they'd put out another one, it's been six years unless you count the Christmas album (which is also excellent, and got rave reviews from everyone I played it for at Christmastime the last two years, but only really listenable around that time of year). But yeah, Dot Com has some great tracks, from the opening little rocker "Spiral" (classic Tull sound there), into tracks like "Hunt By Numbers" and beautifully written songs like "Bends Like A Willow"... great album. Not quiiiite as good as Roots To Branches, but damn good. I prefer both of those to Rock Island and Catfish Rising.

                                                                   
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                                                                    RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:00 PM (permalink)
                                                                    I still need to get Rupi's Dance and the Christmas Album to complete the collection.  Took me a long time to hunt down CD copies of the two out-of-print box sets and the Live At Hammersmith '84 disc.
                                                                     
                                                                    JT's music is something I can never tire of - even Under Wraps is a rewarding listen at the proper time.  There is a huge maturation of sound throughout the catalog that keeps every album fresh.  From the underrated Benefit (love the newest live CD with material from this era), to the awesomeness of Minstrel there is a lot of music to digest.
                                                                     
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                                                                      RE: TULL Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:18 PM (permalink)
                                                                      Well said, MSU Spartan... Benefit is my favorite of the pre-Brick albums. Nothing quite as satisfying as belting out the chorus to "With You There To Help Me" along with Ian... I always think I sound so good (obviously it is because of him)  and my other favorite track is "Sossity You're A Woman". Of course, you can't go wrong with the classic "To Cry You A Song" either. Quite an album, that. A transitional album... a stepping stone if you will, between the early Bluesy albums and Aqualung. The band was just on FIRE at that stage, as evidenced by the 1970 live recordings as they were beginning to incorporate "My God" into the set. Oh man... what energy Ian had.
                                                                       
                                                                      Let's see, what else did you say... oh yeah, Under Wraps... obviously not many people's favorite, except for Martin Barre, that is. Strange, that. He's got such bigger roles on other Tull records. Anyway, I quite like some of it. I loved the instrumental "Under Wraps" on the '92 tour. A similar sound with Vetesse on the keys as with Ian's first solo disc Walk Into Light. That's easily his weakest solo album, I really like the next three.
                                                                       
                                                                      Have you seen the Slipstream film? It comes as the bonus dvd with the A remaster. Well worth having (the A remaster is much improved as well)....
                                                                       
                                                                      Thanks for reminding me of Nothing Is Easy - Isle Of Wight Festival 1970, I just threw it on. I wasn't even thinking of that one earlier, I was talking more about the Carnegie Hall 1970 show from one of the boxsets.

                                                                       
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                                                                        RE: TULL Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:27 PM (permalink)
                                                                        Been on a huge TULL kick of late. Was wondering about Too Old To Rock n Roll. It is the only studio album from the 70's I do not have and It's never talked about much on these Tull threads. Is it a lemon or is it worth getting?
                                                                         
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                                                                          RE: TULL Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:35 PM (permalink)

                                                                          ORIGINAL: snake eyes

                                                                          Been on a huge TULL kick of late. Was wondering about Too Old To Rock n Roll. It is the only studio album from the 70's I do not have and It's never talked about much on these Tull threads. Is it a lemon or is it worth getting?

                                                                           
                                                                          Funny you should say that... it's the only album from the 70s or 80s that I haven't heard either. 
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                                                                            RE: TULL Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:44 PM (permalink)
                                                                            It is my least favorite of the 70's Tull albums. It has a couple of decent tracks, but otherwise falls flat, IMO. The main problem is that it just didn't 'fit' with their other albums. They had the sort of medieval, folky stuff going on for several albums, with TOTRNR sandwiched in between them. Just didn't work as far as I'm concerned.

                                                                             
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                                                                              Project2501

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                                                                              RE: TULL Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:13 PM (permalink)
                                                                              Actually, I have been listening to a lot of Nightcap recently, and specifically the first disc, the 'lost album' recorded in 1973 at the Chateau D'Herouville in France.  I often think this disc is possibly some of the best material the band ever recorded...not quite as rocky as Aqualung, not as folk as Songs fromt he Wood, with lots of nice baroque filligre and topping.  Wonderful stuff.
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                                                                                RE: TULL Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:42 PM (permalink)
                                                                                Yeah, Nightcap is a wonderful collection, and you can hear threads of music that ended up on both A Passion Play and Warchild.

                                                                                 
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