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Portnoy
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MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:03 PM
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Everyone needs to chill out. Stop feeding into this negative poison on the net... I am legally NOT ALLOWED to speak of business matters, but I'm sure you realize there are two sides to every coin... If I could openly talk about this stuff and expalin the REALITY of everything, I would love nothing more!!! But I am legally unable to discuss it... In the meantime, life is bright and positive...I am happy and so are they....so shouldn't YOU be too??? Don't believe the hype...Carpe Diem! MP
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:04 PM
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+1 I'm still with you!
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:05 PM
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This place could really do with a massive 'pause' button now and again.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:06 PM
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No worries. I've been through similar stuff and the legal stuff has to happen sometimes.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:06 PM
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Mike, I mean this in the nicest way possible. You have played the victim card the entire time. It FEELS as if we, as fans, have been stabbed in the back. We are disappointed. It isn't the lawsuit, its the fact that we feel deceived.
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Dobe the Drummer
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:06 PM
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Mike, I'm trying so damn hard. I'd like to believe that my hero is everything I made him out to be. I'm sticking this out, but I can't say I'm all that hopeful I'll like the ending.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:06 PM
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I'm kinda lost.. What negative poison? What business matters? Guess I'll just have to be chill atm.
Save a Drum, bang a Drummer 9/8/10
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:06 PM
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Well, will you be able to talk about this eventually? Or at least clear up what's happening? That BB article made you look bad, Mike. Really, really REALLY bad, and people will want you to explain what happened. Other than that, I'm happy that you are happy that they are happy.
<aryov> This cake is soooo good <aryov> it's like sex, except I'm having it
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:06 PM
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Tough fuckin' day Mike. Really tough. Feels like the walls are caving in.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:09 PM
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ehh Mike is still cool. Fuck all the people who keep bringing shit up about HIS PERSONAL life. I'd like to thank you all for bringing a period of brief entertainment to my life during the brief period of forum anarchy.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:10 PM
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and what about Wey? =\ Edit: What I mean is he was your employee? From his post it seemed like he knew -nothing- about this. You may not have been able to say the specifics, but the least you could have done was inform him that some major shit may go down on the forum that's his job to mod. This is the second major bomb that has fallen on the forum that Wey has had to mop up.
<message edited by Telefragged on Monday, September 19, 2011 6:13 PM>
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:11 PM
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Telefragged and what about Wey? =\ MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! Why did Wey quit?! Ugh, This sucks. This is all just a total mess... I just wish we could hear your side of the story MP.
I don't believe in Santa Clause, John Myung, or the Tooth Fairy.. - Adam02 voice overing MP
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:13 PM
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Hey Mike, just know I will support you to the bitter end man, you have done so much for me as a person and of course musician and most importantly fan. touche on Roadrunner publicizing this whole deal to make a buck off of it. you will always be my favorite musician of all time man. good luck with the mob and I hope to see you guys somewhere soon!
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:14 PM
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I have tickets to see DT on the 30th, if this crap cancels the show like my AMOB show was cancelled... I may not be happy.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:14 PM
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Are you also legally obliged to silence the man who has run this place so well and defended you? Even when all he wanted to do was say goodbye? SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN *edited for spelling
<message edited by laura_ireland on Monday, September 19, 2011 6:16 PM>
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:14 PM
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I'm just going to say is the fact that Wey left is a pretty big deal... (A) It would take something serious to cause that, and (B) who will be our resident tyrannical moderator now? I'd like to stay on this forum so this is all I will say.
And I disappear A ghost amidst the combat Preparing to strike
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:15 PM
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Well, I for one am with you, bro. I've seen this before (meaning, I understand why sometimes lawsuits have to be filed). Lots of people jumping to conclusions and they have no idea what they are talking about, both in terms of the law and in terms of your personal situation. I know the law, but I don't know your personal situation, so all I can say is good luck, and I hope you're not making me look like a chump. :)
Something... something... DANGER ZONE!
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:16 PM
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Guys never forget that MP is in a business. I know that is hard to wrap your head around but this is all this about. Rule #1 of business you have to separate personal feelings from business.
"God Is Dead" -Nietzsche, 1883 "Nietzsche is Dead" -God, 1900
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:16 PM
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Sned This place could really do with a massive 'pause' button now and again. +10. Maybe shut the site down for a day or two and let people take a damn breath. It's crazy how fast this thing has grown. Read a story, assume it's true from start to finish with no embellishments/inaccuracies/misquotes/agendas, and then react with emotional outbursts based on nothing ... yeah, that's a sure first recipe for logical posts and thoughtful exchange of information and ideas. Carpe diem Mike, glad you're in a positive place. 
" The thing is, with Dream Theater, you know what you' re getting: musical virtuosity and technical perfection." " Every passing moment is another chance to turn it all around."
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:17 PM
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haglnuts I have tickets to see DT on the 30th, if this crap cancels the show like my AMOB show was cancelled... I may not be happy. All I'm gonna say is, it better effing not.
I don't believe in Santa Clause, John Myung, or the Tooth Fairy.. - Adam02 voice overing MP
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:17 PM
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laura_ireland Are you also legally obliged to silence the man who has run this place so well and defended you? Even when all he wanted to so was say goodbye? SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN This! Whether Mike is fighting for trademark rights on the band name, I don't really care, but it's the utter lack of disregard for someone who has had his back for such a long time. My goodness, Wey's work was far beyond any site I have ever visited. While most admins act like children or clique-ish, Wey was always level headed and sound. You don't even know how awesome of a person you had here, Mike.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:18 PM
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In the meantime, life is bright and positive...I am happy and so are they....so shouldn't YOU be too??? So, if everything is rosy, then why the lawsuit? You've made mention before about the possibility of wanting to rejoin Dream Theater should the opportunity arise. Doesn't this lawsuit pretty much torpedo any hope of that?
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Superterrorizer
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:19 PM
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Honestly, I'm more shocked to find out about Wey leaving than the lawsuit and people demanding an explanation.
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emtee
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:19 PM
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Wey always had your back. Always. Many of us did too. No matter what. Some internet venom is spewing, but there's a reality there that needs reconciling. You gotta make things right. Somehow.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:19 PM
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I feel like there needs to be a TV special with you and the band reuniting simply to talk about the last year and denying all the false rumors and admitting the things that actually happened. If I've learned anything from mainstream media, it's that leaving things under "I legally can't talk about it" will just bring more false rumors and negative bullshit. Whatever actually happened will be found out eventually, so it might as well be from the actual group of people it's about. I honestly think that will stop this whole DT vs. MP war that's been happening since you left. I love you Mike, you are my #1 musical hero, but I really think things won't stop until they're properly let out to the open.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:20 PM
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So many people are freaking crazy ... dunno Ignore us all Mike, just f*** ignore this shit and concentrate on your music. After all, it's all that matters to you and to people who are your fans for right reasons. Just for the record, you still haven't done one single thing I wouldn't do in the same/similar situation to protect my rights after 25 fucking years of hard work, tears, sweat and blood. And yeah, I have a reputation as someone you don't fuck around in business. Those who tried hate me, those who understand the game welcome me as partner. You're strong enough to survive all this and you won't walk alone in future. You know it
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:20 PM
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You guys are all fucking retarded. Like Mike owes you any sort of explanation at all!
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:21 PM
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Mike Portnoy is becoming the Jennifer Aniston of prog.
"True literature can exist only where it is created, not by diligent and trustworthy functionaries, but by madmen, hermits, heretics, dreamers, rebels, and skeptics." - Yevgeny Zamyatin
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:21 PM
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Telefragged laura_ireland Are you also legally obliged to silence the man who has run this place so well and defended you? Even when all he wanted to so was say goodbye? SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN This! Whether Mike is fighting for trademark rights on the band name, I don't really care, but it's the utter lack of disregard for someone who has had his back for such a long time. My goodness, Wey's work was far beyond any site I have ever visited. While most admins act like children or clique-ish, Wey was always level headed and sound. You don't even know how awesome of a person you had here, Mike. +2.. I know its nice to have minions kissing your ass, but I've been supporting on this forum for 10 years and to see this shit? Pfft. I've known Weymo for years, I flew him out here so he could finally meet MP at the BB Kings show in a fucking blizzard, and this is how he gets thanked, a deleted post that said nothing but the truth.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:21 PM
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Telefragged and what about Wey? =\ Edit: What I mean is he was your employee? From his post it seemed like he knew -nothing- about this. You may not have been able to say the specifics, but the least you could have done was inform him that some major shit may go down on the forum that's his job to mod. This is the second major bomb that has fallen on the forum that Wey has had to mop up. Wey's actions speak a lot louder than anything else going on here. I have had some interactions with him in a personal matter and found him to have a high level of integrity in dealing with a very delicate situation. His words are all that I believe right now, and they are not the kindest of words in this situation. I am still a fan of MP's work and still look forward to hearing whatever new music comes from him because, to be honest, I don't know MP as a person. I am not family or close friend. One of the things I used to like about him was his fan-friendly reputation. I am curious to see how much damage this does to that and how it might affect things going forward with him.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:22 PM
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I wonder if this was back in 1968 would people be out there burning records and shit?
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:23 PM
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Superterrorizer Honestly, I'm more shocked to find out about Wey leaving than the lawsuit and people demanding an explanation. +1
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:24 PM
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Hezakire Pipstraw You guys are all fucking retarded. Like Mike owes you any sort of explanation at all! This!!!
"God Is Dead" -Nietzsche, 1883 "Nietzsche is Dead" -God, 1900
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:24 PM
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It's business, Mike and the rest of DT have a difference of opinion over what share of DT he's entitled too. Maybe he says he deserves 33% and they say he deserves 25%, the courts (an impartial third party) are just going to determine which number to use, or they'll settle on a number between the two. If this is more or less the case, to Mike's point I think we'd all agree that he has a claim that he has done more than 25% of the work of building DT's name so he has a right to more than that for a share. This doesn't make him the anti-christ; so again chill the fuck out. I don't see why this is a big issue. It happens all the time, and there doesn't have to be animosity.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:25 PM
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Superterrorizer I wonder if this was back in 1968 would people be out there burning records and shit? If this was 1968, we wouldn't know about it. Because it's non of our business.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:25 PM
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:27 PM
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Enough already. Mike, you have an ego. This isn't a bad thing at all. In fact, you deserve to have the fucking ego! You've accomplished more than most people can dream of, but stop fucking up your image. I'm not sure if you know how much damage you're doing to yourself by trying to defend yourself. Honestly, just be happy with your accomplishments and realize that no matter what you play on, its going to sell records. DT is still going to be in the spotlight, and you're gonna have to deal with that on a professional level.
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:27 PM
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lol
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Re:MP speaks
Monday, September 19, 2011 6:31 PM
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Bruins Guys never forget that MP is in a business. I know that is hard to wrap your head around but this is all this about. Rule #1 of business you have to separate personal feelings from business. True, that's why I think the whole "i'm leaving my baby after 25 years" speech seems out of place right now. You cannot go around emotionally talking about your business. Either you take it personally or you take it as a business. It's the ambiguity of the whole thing what troubles me. Again, I do think many are seeing this too black and white in terms of MP is bad DT are good and that's a simplification that I won't follow. I do believe there are two sides to every story and as the saying goes there are no heroes among thieves. H
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