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    Bails

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    Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:54 PM (permalink)
    After all of this mess, Penn State still has a legitimate shot to get to the Big 10 championship.  Amazing.
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      Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:35 PM (permalink)
      Yeah, quite the week.  Not sure how Ok St. can drop to only #5 in the AP.
       
      Oh, and I caught the end of the FSU/VA (Damn Cavs) game & heard about a new rule that apparently was instituted.  If the offensive team gets a penalty I assume the last two minutes, there is a 10 second runoff.  Doesn't apparently matter if the clock is stopped.
       
      So, as was nearly the case in this game, you can have an incomplete pass with 8 seconds left.  If you were to false start, the game would be over.  Seems like a horrible rule here. 
       
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        Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:20 PM (permalink)
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        Yeah, quite the week.  Not sure how Ok St. can drop to only #5 in the AP.

         
        That's why voting should have no part in determining a champion.
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          Re:NCAA Football 2011 Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:01 PM (permalink)
          HAIL HAIL TO MICHIGAN!
           
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            Re:NCAA Football 2011 Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:56 PM (permalink)
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            HAIL HAIL TO MICHIGAN!


            I'm surprised you don't root for OSU or USC!! That would make the Yankees and Packers fandom make more sense. 
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              Re:NCAA Football 2011 Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:52 PM (permalink)
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              HAIL HAIL TO MICHIGAN!


              I'm surprised you don't root for OSU or USC!! That would make the Yankees and Packers fandom make more sense. 

               
              :P I had a summer internship when I was 16  with the IT department at UofM. One of the best experiences of my life :P
               
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                Re:NCAA Football 2011 Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:55 PM (permalink)
                If the shambles that was OSU this year is what it takes for Michigan to win, I'll take it.
                 
                In other news, word out of LSU is Bobby Petrino is a whiny bitch who can't take a beatdown.
                 
                And my Hokies are up by 21 in their quest for another shot at the ACC title.
                 
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                  Re:NCAA Football 2011 Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:02 PM (permalink)
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                  If the shambles that was OSU this year is what it takes for Michigan to win, I'll take it.



                  I'm hoping Urban Meyer does not take the OSU job... he would own Michigan for the near future. I don't think I'll be that lucky, though. 
                   
                   

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                    Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:22 AM (permalink)
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                    In other news, word out of LSU is Bobby Petrino is a whiny bitch who can't take a beatdown.
                     

                    If the head coach says "fu** you mother fu**er" from across the field I would say he is a sore loser.
                     
                    In other news LSU just had a perfect regular season and is still predicted to lose to Georgia and Alabama! 
                     
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                      Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:33 PM (permalink)
                      @BayouBengali, I was playing drums at the tailgate area of the LSU game this friday. you guys know how to party (well we party just as hard but have to be sly about it), the LSU level of "out in the open" would not be tolerated at UT. i was amazed. had a really good time.
                       
                      anywhoo, how 'bout them 'horns?
                      suck it a&m!!! the typical aggie 2nd half meltdown continues. SEC peeps, have fun with your new punching bag.
                       
                      aggies, see you in 2019 maybe. until then, let the bitter taste of defeat fester in your mouths. \m/ go horns! \m/
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
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                        Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, November 28, 2011 7:22 AM (permalink)
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                        Yeah, quite the week.  Not sure how Ok St. can drop to only #5 in the AP.


                        That's why voting should have no part in determining a champion.


                        I agree. The objective computers look at the facts and say OK State is #3 and pretty much neck-and-neck with Alabama. I don't know if a blowout of Oklahoma would change that order, but if it does and voters keep Alabama in the title game, that would be a disgrace.
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                          Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, November 28, 2011 2:59 PM (permalink)
                          Take a look at these comparisons.
                           

                           
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                            Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, November 28, 2011 3:34 PM (permalink)
                            I guess Karma is ripping up Penn State, too bad the players have to suffer with the mistakes other people made
                             
                             
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                              Re:NCAA Football 2011 Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:41 PM (permalink)
                              It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light.
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                                Re:NCAA Football 2011 Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:51 PM (permalink)
                                My support of the BCS philosophy has always centered on the idea of cold hard facts. As it turns out, cold hard facts don't really have anything to do with the current system. So basically, the whole process has always been a total farce, still is, and always will be (even with a playoff) until preconceived notions and biases are completely removed from the process. In other words, it's never gonna happen.
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                                  Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:43 AM (permalink)
                                  So, here's the deal: The computers are expected to have OK St. #2. Which means that the concerns over bias in the programming aren't going to be an issue this year. And yet, voters who follow the stupidest possible election process (see above article in Bails's post) are going to fuck this up. Congrats, Alabama.
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                                    Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:48 AM (permalink)
                                    Fingers crossed for Oklahoma State!  Bama did not win its division or conference so they do not deserve a national championship birth.  Oklahoma State won their conference and destroyed the the #10 team in the country.  They deserve to be in.
                                     
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                                      Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:04 AM (permalink)
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                                      Fingers crossed for Oklahoma State!  Bama did not win its division or conference so they do not deserve a national championship birth.  Oklahoma State won their conference and destroyed the the #10 team in the country.  They deserve to be in.


                                      I disagree with the premise. Alabama is the #3 team, and if OK St. weren't as awesome as they are, I'd be perfectly fine with a rematch. The teams with the 2 best seasons deserve to get in, and if they happen to be in the same division, so be it. To say that every conference champion is better than Alabama is silly.
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                                        Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:15 AM (permalink)
                                        The need for a playoff is so blindingly obvious, it's sickening that they won't even consider it.
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                                          Re:NCAA Football 2011 Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:57 PM (permalink)
                                          fuck Clemson.
                                           
                                          Twice.
                                           
                                          Really, and what is the consecutive time frame with which I am allowed to make a post?
                                           
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                                            Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, December 05, 2011 8:49 PM (permalink)
                                            The Honey Badger is a Heisman finalist!!
                                             

                                             
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                                              Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, December 05, 2011 9:08 PM (permalink)
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                                              Really, and what is the consecutive time frame with which I am allowed to make a post?

                                               
                                              Sixty seconds - supposedly, it's to keep the board from getting spammed by web-bots.
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                                                Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, January 09, 2012 9:35 AM (permalink)
                                                Bump.  BCS Championship tonight! 
                                                 
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                                                  Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, January 09, 2012 10:13 AM (permalink)
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                                                  Fingers crossed for Oklahoma State!  Bama did not win its division or conference so they do not deserve a national championship birth.  Oklahoma State won their conference and destroyed the the #10 team in the country.  They deserve to be in.


                                                  I disagree with the premise. Alabama is the #3 team, and if OK St. weren't as awesome as they are, I'd be perfectly fine with a rematch. The teams with the 2 best seasons deserve to get in, and if they happen to be in the same division, so be it. To say that every conference champion is better than Alabama is silly.


                                                  And I disagree with the premise that anyone can make an unbiased, informed decision about who is the best team, who is number two etc. based on watching a few of the 12 games played during a season by every team. Just not possible. And doing a pure statistical analysis does not capture intangibles, so strong teams that may not run up the score or the stats don't look as good.
                                                   
                                                  A playoff that includes every conference champion helps to resolve that, because you can easily argue that if you win your conference, you are the best of that group and in a playoff, the best of the best will be facing each other (though with these mega-conferences, even that is questionable because teams don't play every other team in their conferences).
                                                   
                                                  16 teams. 11 conference champions and 5 at-large bids. If LSU and 'Bama ended up in a national title game following a playoff format, I would have no problem with it. 'Bama selected to play by uninformed coaches and Harris poll voters and computer programs that cannot even be audited for accuracy because the formula is supposedly some kind of super top secret propriatary piece of intellectual property renders the title absolutely meaningless, just as meaningless as every title awarded since they have been given out pre- and post-BCS.
                                                   
                                                  Div. 1-A football is nothing more than a season-long audition for the NFL and not a serious or credible competitive sporting division.
                                                   
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                                                    Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, January 09, 2012 5:36 PM (permalink)
                                                    Even as a Bama fan, I want to see at least a Plus-1. SEC Commish pushed it in 2008 and got sneered at from all the other conferences. 3 SEC Natl. Champs later, we'll see what they say. 
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                                                      Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, January 09, 2012 8:42 PM (permalink)
                                                      [YAWN]
                                                       
                                                      Are they finally playing a meaningful game?  After, what - a month off?
                                                       
                                                      I fucking hate the NCAA Division I system.
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                                                        Re:NCAA Football 2011 Monday, January 09, 2012 11:17 PM (permalink)
                                                        Well that was embarrassing! Only positive thing I can take away from that game is that Jordan Jefferson will not take one more snap as an LSU tiger.
                                                         
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                                                          Re:NCAA Football 2011 Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:15 AM (permalink)
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                                                          Even as a Bama fan, I want to see at least a Plus-1. SEC Commish pushed it in 2008 and got sneered at from all the other conferences. 3 SEC Natl. Champs later, we'll see what they say. 


                                                          3?  I'm not a huge football fan (blasphemy around Birmingham, I know), but I'm pretty sure an SEC team has won the BCS National Championship every year since either 2005 or 2007...
                                                           
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                                                            Re:NCAA Football 2011 Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:07 AM (permalink)
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                                                            Serensky


                                                            Even as a Bama fan, I want to see at least a Plus-1. SEC Commish pushed it in 2008 and got sneered at from all the other conferences. 3 SEC Natl. Champs later, we'll see what they say. 


                                                            3?  I'm not a huge football fan (blasphemy around Birmingham, I know), but I'm pretty sure an SEC team has won the BCS National Championship every year since either 2005 or 2007...


                                                            Re-read his post.  He was referencing when the SEC commissioner was pushing for a +1 game which was in 2008.  That makes 3 years.
                                                             
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                                                              Re:NCAA Football 2011 Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:29 PM (permalink)
                                                              BayouBengal - WTF happened?  Ninety-six yards?!!!!
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                                                                Re:NCAA Football 2011 Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:15 PM (permalink)
                                                                LSU should have gotten Allstate, to protect them from Mayhem...... like Bama!!!

                                                                I'm a senior at UA so I got the chance to buy tickets, and since I typically wake up at 6 anyway, I was able to get to the ticket office really early and managed front row tickets in the end zone. Not only was it an amazing game, but it was truly a memorable way for me to end my college career. Sorry BayouBengal, but we just beat the hell out of you. Roll Tide!!!
                                                                 
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                                                                  Re:NCAA Football 2011 Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:14 AM (permalink)
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                                                                  BayouBengal - WTF happened?  Ninety-six yards?!!!!


                                                                  I thought you were not interested in this game?
                                                                   
                                                                  Anyway, Jordan Jefferson + Les Miles happened.  If you go back and look at the box scores since JJ was put back in, the offense has steadily declined.  Les Miles' preference to play JJ over Lee will always stump me.  If you watched the first time LSU and Bama played and the BCS championship you will notice that adjustments were made.  Unfortunately those adjustments were made by Nick Saban and not Les Miles.  Saban was not going to let LSU spread the field and run sideline to sideline like the first game.  For some stupid reason Miles thought gameplan for game 1 would work for game 2.  Saban was going to force JJ to throw down field which he is obviously not capable of doing.
                                                                   
                                                                  The best thing to come out of this game is no more Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee. Hopefully next year we will have a decent quarterback. 
                                                                   
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                                                                    Re:NCAA Football 2011 Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:23 AM (permalink)
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                                                                    LSU should have gotten Allstate, to protect them from Mayhem...... like Bama!!!

                                                                    I'm a senior at UA so I got the chance to buy tickets, and since I typically wake up at 6 anyway, I was able to get to the ticket office really early and managed front row tickets in the end zone. Not only was it an amazing game, but it was truly a memorable way for me to end my college career. Sorry BayouBengal, but we just beat the hell out of you. Roll Tide!!!


                                                                    Congrats on the win. Bama won when it counted even if they backed their way into the game. (I think they deserved to be there BTW)  Also congrats on getting to go to the game.  I was on the field and part of LSU's BCS Championship in 2003 so I know the feeling.  I will forever remember that night.  Enjoy the championship and we will be waiting for your visit to Death Valley next year! 
                                                                     
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                                                                      Re:NCAA Football 2011 Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:26 PM (permalink)
                                                                      I'm looking forward to my Tigers joining the SEC this year!
                                                                       
                                                                      I've heard a lot of bitching from old timers up here about rivalries...whatever. Would you rather see Georgia and Alabama come to town or K-State and Baylor? We have Alabama as a home game in Columbia, it should be rocking!
                                                                       
                                                                      Now...there are three tigers in the SEC...lol
                                                                       
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                                                                        Re:NCAA Football 2011 Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:11 PM (permalink)
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                                                                        BayouBengal - WTF happened?  Ninety-six yards?!!!!


                                                                        I thought you were not interested in this game?


                                                                        No, the championship game was the only game I was interested in - it's the only game that actually means anything.  Every other bowl game is simply an exhibition game.
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                                                                          Re:NCAA Football 2011 Friday, January 13, 2012 1:19 AM (permalink)
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                                                                          Congrats on the win. Bama won when it counted even if they backed their way into the game. (I think they deserved to be there BTW)  Also congrats on getting to go to the game.  I was on the field and part of LSU's BCS Championship in 2003 so I know the feeling.  I will forever remember that night.  Enjoy the championship and we will be waiting for your visit to Death Valley next year! 


                                                                          I would expect to see LSU in Miami personally. Possibly against USC. I would just have to think there's going to be another SEC team to make an attempt for 7. Bama is going to be losing too many keys in their defense to hold up to LSU (with revenge coming), and the only other team I can see handing LSU any competition is Arky if they get a defense. And you know no one from the East is going to step up to that level. 
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
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                                                                            Re:NCAA Football 2011 Friday, January 13, 2012 2:02 AM (permalink)
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                                                                            BayouBengal



                                                                            Congrats on the win. Bama won when it counted even if they backed their way into the game. (I think they deserved to be there BTW)  Also congrats on getting to go to the game.  I was on the field and part of LSU's BCS Championship in 2003 so I know the feeling.  I will forever remember that night.  Enjoy the championship and we will be waiting for your visit to Death Valley next year! 


                                                                            I would expect to see LSU in Miami personally. Possibly against USC. I would just have to think there's going to be another SEC team to make an attempt for 7. Bama is going to be losing too many keys in their defense to hold up to LSU (with revenge coming), and the only other team I can see handing LSU any competition is Arky if they get a defense. And you know no one from the East is going to step up to that level. 



                                                                             
                                                                            Give Urban Meyer some time, he'll get OSU there in a few years.  That's coming from a concerned PSU fan.
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