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    richard.zado

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    Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:20 AM (permalink)
    I can't wait to that day!
     
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      Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:44 AM (permalink)
      The only 2 that would benefit from a Blu-ray release would be LAB and Score.
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        Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:46 AM (permalink)

         Live Scenes From NY is a must have om BR!

        I though about this myself. DT is a band you should experience on BR!
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          Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:52 AM (permalink)
          Were Score and LaB recorded in high-def though?  Score would kick ass, but I think I'd prefer it overall if they just recorded a show on the next Evening With... tour specially for the purpose.
           
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            Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:11 AM (permalink)
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            Were Score and LaB recorded in high-def though?

            Yes.


             
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              Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:11 AM (permalink)

              ganpondorodf


              Were Score and LaB recorded in high-def though?  Score would kick ass, but I think I'd prefer it overall if they just recorded a show on the next Evening With... tour specially for the purpose.


              Yeah, they were.
               
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                Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:55 AM (permalink)
                I really want those two on BD.I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
                 
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                  Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:58 AM (permalink)
                  I would give anything to have Score on Blu-ray.
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                    Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:07 PM (permalink)
                    I wonder if there's been more of these threads or Dragonforce threads

                    And yes, I would LOVE to see BR releases.

                     
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                      Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:56 PM (permalink)
                      Yeah, there was a thread on this some time ago.....

                      Live Scenes definitely not since it was filmed in 4:3.
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                        Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:53 PM (permalink)
                        I think I already wrote this a long time ago, but what are Score's two main problems ?

                        - the picture is overly compressed
                        - and so is the surround track

                        Release this in Blu-Ray and both problems will fade away.
                        And it will sell. Not billion copies, but it will sell.

                        If you can, separate the band and the orchestra Metallica-like, and it could sell even more.
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                          Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:24 PM (permalink)
                          senor_valasco

                          Live Scenes definitely not since it was filmed in 4:3.


                          Thankfully. Those psychedelic visual effects would literally blind quite a few of us if it was in higher quality.
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                            Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:34 PM (permalink)
                            I would do horrible things for Live at Budokan on Blu Ray. The way that concert was filmed and the lighting makes for something else!
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                              Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:18 PM (permalink)
                              So what would I gain from watching in Blu-Ray?


                              Blu-Ray virgin here.
                               
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                                Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:17 PM (permalink)
                                First the picture quality would be much clearer, crisper.
                                The compression (big squares ruining the overall quality) would nearly disappear.
                                The colors would look much more natural and warm, since there's not shitty PAL or NTSC transcript.
                                And if well done, you'd gain an incredible level of detail.

                                Then the sound would be also better.
                                There would be no MP3-like compression as the 5.1 soundtrack could be in lossless format. The cymbals and the brass sections would sound MUCH better.
                                And also you'd have the whole thing in the right pitch, since... there's no NTSC or PAL transcript either !

                                Trust me, if it's been well done from the beginning, you can gain a lot. I still remember putting my very first music Blu-Ray on... Rush's Snakes & Arrows. 3 minutes into it, I was already planning to rebuy some 20-or-so favourite music DVDs of mine...
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                                  Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:47 PM (permalink)
                                  senor_valasco

                                  Live Scenes definitely not since it was filmed in 4:3.


                                  Aspect ratio has no bearing on resolution if shot on film with proper anamorphic lenses. I assume Live Scenes was shot on sd tape, though.
                                   
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                                    Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:56 PM (permalink)
                                    GilliamsBrazil


                                    senor_valasco

                                    Live Scenes definitely not since it was filmed in 4:3.


                                    Aspect ratio has no bearing on resolution if shot on film with proper anamorphic lenses. I assume Live Scenes was shot on sd tape, though.



                                    Live scenes was very much shot in SD. Anything earlier than LaB, I wouldn't be holding my breath for a blu-ray... 

                                    The Chaos in motion DVD probably wouldn't benefit at all either.



                                     
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                                      Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:58 PM (permalink)
                                      GilliamsBrazil

                                      Aspect ratio has no bearing on resolution* if shot on film with proper anamorphic lenses. I assume Live Scenes was shot on sd tape, though.


                                      *Edit: Until it is scanned for digital viewing. Naturally a 4:3 image will not utilize all the resolution of a widescreen TV as a 1.78:1 image would, but any film no matter the aspect ratio can be made at least somewhat higher a resolution than DVD is capable of.

                                      Even if Live Scenes was shot on sd tape it would be awesome to have a BD release with uncompressed audio and the entire LSFNY concert. Possibly re-edited and without all the crazy effects!
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                                        Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:58 PM (permalink)
                                        The one I wish they'd stick on BR realisticly is Chaos in Motion. Unrealisticly I'd love LAB or LSFNY.

                                         
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                                          Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:08 PM (permalink)
                                          Petch


                                          The one I wish they'd stick on BR realisticly is Chaos in Motion. Unrealisticly I'd love LAB or LSFNY.


                                          I'm wondering why you think LAB is in the "unrealistic" category. It's the only release of the three you mentioned that was actually filmed with HD cameras.
                                           
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                                            Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:25 PM (permalink)
                                            Derango


                                            Petch


                                            The one I wish they'd stick on BR realisticly is Chaos in Motion. Unrealisticly I'd love LAB or LSFNY.


                                            I'm wondering why you think LAB is in the "unrealistic" category. It's the only release of the three you mentioned that was actually filmed with HD cameras.


                                            Didn't realize that it was filmed with a HD camara... but I don't think it will be revived to BR because of the age... 2004. It would be great though!

                                             
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                                              Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:36 PM (permalink)
                                              There could be another problem about Budokan : the filming crew was Japanese (and you can really tell by the way it's been shot. The framing with James' face half-cut on either side of the TV is a typical j-rock video effect !). And two of Japan's best live acts have released Blu-Ray versions of their latest concerts : Buck-Tick and Luna Sea. Both have failed to release a decent B-R.

                                              So artistically speaking, Budokan is japan originated and is well worth a B-R upgrade, but technically I hope it will be mastered the western way ! :D
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                                                Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:37 PM (permalink)
                                                Petch


                                                Derango


                                                Petch


                                                The one I wish they'd stick on BR realisticly is Chaos in Motion. Unrealisticly I'd love LAB or LSFNY.


                                                I'm wondering why you think LAB is in the "unrealistic" category. It's the only release of the three you mentioned that was actually filmed with HD cameras.


                                                Didn't realize that it was filmed with a HD camara... but I don't think it will be revived to BR because of the age... 2004. It would be great though!

                                                The question I would have is what was it filmed in?  720p, 1080i?  I don't think 1080p was around then or at the very least it was in its infancy.

                                                And yes you can do transfers from analog tapes.  If DT were to re-release the original material in BR however I would want it done right and not half assed.  Meaning I would like to see them go back to the original master tapes and get them cleaned up and a nice 1080p transfer.  The idea someone else had about LSNY getting the entire concert on there and removing some of the special effects would be nice.  Now to clarify I have no problem with the split screen stuff or the "movie" portions of SFAM but I just would prefer to not have the psychadelic effects.  I'm not sure how much time/money such a project would cost but if it were to be done I'd prefer it done right otherwise I don't think I'd be buying new versions.  This is all assuming the original master tapes exist in a state that can be restored properly.

                                                 
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                                                  Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:56 PM (permalink)
                                                  To be quite honest, I have read somewhere that Steve Vai's genius Where The Wild... was 720p, but... none of my HD-nerd friends could tell. It's shiny, colourful and crisp, and I wish some major film features could look the same in Blu-Ray, even at 720p (cough... Costner's Robin Hood... cough...)

                                                  Me need DT Blu, hell ! :p
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                                                    Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:02 PM (permalink)

                                                    Agreed, the others were not filmed in HD so I don't think they would bother.  Now LAB & Score I would definitely buy again on BR!!!
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                                                      Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:12 PM (permalink)
                                                      we need Dream Theater on BR :D
                                                       
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                                                        Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:32 PM (permalink)
                                                        As already mentioned, only Budokan and Score would benefit from Blu-Ray as BOTH were shot in HD.
                                                         
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                                                          Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:38 PM (permalink)
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                                                          The one I wish they'd stick on BR realisticly is Chaos in Motion. Unrealisticly I'd love LAB or LSFNY.


                                                          I'm wondering why you think LAB is in the "unrealistic" category. It's the only release of the three you mentioned that was actually filmed with HD cameras.


                                                          Didn't realize that it was filmed with a HD camara... but I don't think it will be revived to BR because of the age... 2004. It would be great though!


                                                          It doesn't matter. AC/DC released Live at Donington (1992) on Blu-ray and it's great!
                                                           
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                                                            Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:27 PM (permalink)

                                                            It doesn't matter. AC/DC released Live at Donington (1992) on Blu-ray and it's great!

                                                             
                                                            According to Wikipedia this show was filmed in 35mm Panavision so if the BR was created from the film masters then of course it looks great.  If the video master tapes are SD then the end result on BR may not be very good.  In fact, and I'm not sure about this, but the video upconversion and BR encoding process may amplify artifacts in the original making BR undesireable.  Now, if the original was shot on HD then of course a properly created BR disc should look great.
                                                             
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                                                              Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:40 PM (permalink)
                                                              LAB's Hollow Years on Blu equals win.
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                                                                Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:43 PM (permalink)
                                                                baker


                                                                To be quite honest, I have read somewhere that Steve Vai's genius Where The Wild... was 720p, but... none of my HD-nerd friends could tell. It's shiny, colourful and crisp, and I wish some major film features could look the same in Blu-Ray, even at 720p (cough... Costner's Robin Hood... cough...)

                                                                Me need DT Blu, hell ! :p


                                                                Yeah, Vai's is 720p. Says on the box.
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                                                                  Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:49 PM (permalink)
                                                                  I really freakin' hope so.
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                                                                    Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:30 PM (permalink)
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                                                                    I really freakin' hope so.



                                                                     
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                                                                      Re:Will DT release their previous DVDs on Blu-ray format? Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:37 PM (permalink)
                                                                      snowdog

                                                                      The question I would have is what was it filmed in?  720p, 1080i?  I don't think 1080p was around then or at the very least it was in its infancy.


                                                                      1080p at 60 fps isn't even part of the Blu-ray specification. That means that 1080i is enough
                                                                      to hold all the information you can transmit via this format (at either 60 interlaced frames or
                                                                      30 "full" progressive ones - that's six fps more than a standard 1080p movie at its 24 fps).


                                                                      baker

                                                                      To be quite honest, I have read somewhere that Steve Vai's genius Where The Wild... was 720p, but... none of my HD-nerd friends could tell.


                                                                      That's because 720p is already a very high quality signal. And unlike the common 1080i and 1080p24
                                                                      formats it can actually contain 60 progressive frames, making for smoother motion at its full vertical
                                                                      resolution of 720 lines (1080i at 60 fps contains 60 frames of 540 alternating lines each). Although
                                                                      I haven't seen the Vai Blu-ray Disc yet to verify if it was actually recorded at 60 fps (and nobody
                                                                      at the Steve Vai forum has been able to answer that question so far, either - oh well...).

                                                                       
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