"LOST" Season SIX/LAST season discussion (spoilers)

Just seeing the thread got me all excited! Really miss this show, I must re-watch the series soon

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

I miss the show too.

"I'm in a glass case of emotion."

The other day I finally realized the connection between the cork to the wine bottle and the cork in the cave.

It was obvious, but that random thought about Lost made me feel happy.  This show feels like an ex to me now.  It didn't end how I quite wanted, but I'll never let go of the memories.  I can't wait to get the series box set and cuddle up in my bed with a box of chocolates and reminisce about the good times.

I thought the cork represented the Island and it keeping his brother MIB on the island.
Of course I was thinking how I was so wrong all season. It's funny. The first rumor I heard
was it was like a pugatory right when the show first started. Should have listened.
I could have saved the hours of my life....................... I did enjoy it. Ending not so much.

Hurley will appear on the upcoming new Weezer album. Sort of.

-> my music collection

LeChuck


Hurley will appear on the upcoming new Weezer album. Sort of.

LMAO

HURLEEYYYY

Watched the episode finale again tonight on hulu. So moving. I really really miss this show.

"I'm in a glass case of emotion."

LeChuck


Hurley will appear on the upcoming new Weezer album. Sort of.

My Brother pointed this news out to me the other day. Brilliant.

"I was coming up with all kinds of stuff, but ultimately, we just went with some random word that doesn't really have anything to do with anything. I just loved this photo of Jorge Garcia -- it just had this amazing vibe. We didn't want to do a fourth self-titled record and we knew people would refer to it as 'the Hurley record' even if we left it without that title, so we just called it 'Hurley.' No words are on the cover because all we wanted was his amazing face"



That part made me laugh.

Me too. And I just realized some of the unexplained answers are somewhat explained during the show.

For example, it took me a while (with some extra help) that the electromagnetism spillover during The Incident was the cause of the pregnancy issues.

It took me sometime also to realize why Walt is so special.

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Raymitox

For example, it took me a while (with some extra help) that the electromagnetism spillover during The Incident was the cause of the pregnancy issues.

Never thought of that!

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Raymitox


It took me sometime also to realize why Walt is so special.

Why?

Verification of the truth of the words of the Book of Counted Shadows, if spoken by another, rather than read by the one who commands the boxes, can only be ensured by the use of a Confessor...

Well, because Walt has the ability to manifest his thoughts into reality.

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You know, I feel like an idiot.

Just read a comment online about how they basically laid out for us what the polar bears were to be used for. They were being trained to turn the donkey wheel so that a person wouldn't have to do it, they could withstand the cold, and they were certainly strong enough.

Couple that idea with the fact that they found a polar bear's remains in the desert where Ben was transported once he turned the wheel and it seems quite obvious. How this was all overlooked is beyond me.

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You know, I feel like an idiot.

Just read a comment online about how they basically laid out for us what the polar bears were to be used for. They were being trained to turn the donkey wheel so that a person wouldn't have to do it, they could withstand the cold, and they were certainly strong enough.

Couple that idea with the fact that they found a polar bear's remains in the desert where Ben was transported once he turned the wheel and it seems quite obvious. How this was all overlooked is beyond me.

I shall join you in the den of idiocicy (<-----Is that a word? It should be)
 That really is so simple to see and put together....and like you said the fact that not one of us ever mentioned that 'theory' is even crazier being that we all collectively had some doozie's...
 I know I was adamant that the island was Atlantis for a few years........WRONG!!!
 

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

how do you know that walt can turn his thoughts into reality?

While living with mom and stepdad, he was reading a book and came across a picture of a bird.  He tried showing it to stepdad, who wasn't paying attention.  Walt yelled to him "Look at this" (or something like that), and at that moment the same kind of bird crashed into their window.
There was another time when he was with Locke, who was teaching how to throw a knife.  Walt wasn't doing very well until Locke told him to visualize what he wanted to do in his mind.  Walt next throw was perfect.
 
Those are the two that I recall.

The big plothole that still makes me laugh is the fact that in Season 5, there's the scene with "Christian" in the barracks with Sun and Frank. There's no problem with this, except that we later learn that this is obviously MIB.

At the same time as this, MIB was with Ben in another location.

Raymitox


Well, because Walt has the ability to manifest his thoughts into reality.

But I thought we all got that part? I thought the question was WHY Walt could do that. Within the mythology of the show, how was that possible?

The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.

The same way Miles could hear the dead.

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goncalo_viola


The same way Miles could hear the dead.

He couldn't hear the dead, he could just hear their last thoughts before dying

Yeah I know that... you unsderstood what I wanted to say. :P

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SO now that the show is over... does anybody have recommendations for a follow up?  I'm dying for another serialized show, and I'm coming up empty.

We've recently seen:
Carnivale
Lost
The Prisoner
Party Down (criminally overlooked, HILARIOUS show)
Weeds
True Blood
Mad Men
Breaking Bad (superior to Mad Men, IMO)
Being Human
Misfits
Curb
Dexter
West Wing
Torchwood
The Wire
Shield
Deadwood

that can't be ALL the good shows there ever were? but I cant' find much more that's halfway intelligent.  As frustrating as the finale to Lost might have been, the show was very well done.

(yes we've seen Buffy and Angel too.  I'm over it)

"A toast... to a new world of gods and monsters..."

sarcophage


SO now that the show is over... does anybody have recommendations for a follow up?  I'm dying for another serialized show, and I'm coming up empty.

We've recently seen:
*snip*
(yes we've seen Buffy and Angel too.  I'm over it)

Well, Buffy and Angel woulda been my first options. Battlestar Galatica is another good, serious long term show. I love Doctor Who and Warehouse 13, but IMHO they are a lot less serious than a show like Lost.

@Rane - Holy crap! That makes perfect sense. Nice. Thanks for sharing it.

@Skip - I was one of the people who thought the Island was purgatory back in season 1, but I don't feel cheated at all. The only thing that was in a purgatory / after life before moving on type of place was the "flash sideways" in the final season. The rest of the show wasn't.


I probably shouldn't, but I just know I'm going to break down and buy the big ol' box set when it comes out the end of this month. I've been holding off on buying any of the individual seasons for just this reason.

Thanks KoA - I forgot about the new Dr. Who - maybe I'll check that out.  

We also recently tried to get back into Veronica Mars and Wonderfalls (2 great shows back in the day), and both me and my wife kept getting really irritated with the whole high school thing and being all dark and cynical when you have so much.! Which of course is exactly how I was in high school :D

  

"A toast... to a new world of gods and monsters..."

+1 for Battlestar Galactica

The most unfortunately named serious drama in history, also one of the best.

Drakodan


The big plothole that still makes me laugh is the fact that in Season 5, there's the scene with "Christian" in the barracks with Sun and Frank. There's no problem with this, except that we later learn that this is obviously MIB.

At the same time as this, MIB was with Ben in another location.

Either you believe MIB wasn't Christian every time he showed up. OR, you take note that once Jacob died, MIB was stuck as Locke. Jacob was still alive at that point in the show.

Verification of the truth of the words of the Book of Counted Shadows, if spoken by another, rather than read by the one who commands the boxes, can only be ensured by the use of a Confessor...

goncalo_viola


The same way Miles could hear the dead.

I don't buy it. I always figured Miles could hear the dead because he was born and somewhat raised on an island that bends time. So people's last moments could kinda waft through time and he'd pick them up. At least it fits in with the presented mythology of the island. Spontaneous psychic manifestation or whatever you could call it does not appear in the slightest to be a corruption of time. So no, I don't see those two as being comparable, and thus my question still is my question.

Sarcophage, there's always Buffy and Angel again. Haha. And Firefly, but that won't keep you busy long. Doctor Who is fantastic. New, old, half-animated, whatever. Doctor 11 kicks the Tenth Doctor's butt, though. Might just be the writing, but who knows. And that leaves the best television series of all time, not a very serialized one, especially not at first, but brilliant and wholly entertaining in every way: The Justice League. Balls yeah.

The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.

... the same way Hurley could talk with the dead?

...... the same way Desmond resisted electromagnetism?

Just kidding! :P

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I'd put Hurley and Walt in the same category, sure. Ha. Naw, comparing Hurley and Miles shows what I'm thinking, I guess. Miles seems like the "realistic" version of talking to the dead, if you will. Hurley is the "cinematic" one or something. Miles's kinda makes sense, but Hurley's never really does. At least for me.

And again, with Desmond, I figured that came from the island. Just being zapped with it enough. But again, that's in keeping with what the island throws at people.

Anyways, just having some fun. This is the first time I've given Lost much of any thought since I saw that letdown of a finale. Kinda miss a lot of the early mystery, but that is just about how every show seems to go.

The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.

sarcophage


Thanks KoA - I forgot about the new Dr. Who - maybe I'll check that out.  

We also recently tried to get back into Veronica Mars and Wonderfalls (2 great shows back in the day), and both me and my wife kept getting really irritated with the whole high school thing and being all dark and cynical when you have so much.! Which of course is exactly how I was in high school :D

Prison Break (does drop off after the first season, but I still liked it a bunch)
Sopranos
Mad Men
Firefly (all 16 episodes are worth it; still have to watch the movie now to see the "resolve")

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Sarcophage, there's always Buffy and Angel again. Haha. And Firefly, but that won't keep you busy long. Doctor Who is fantastic. New, old, half-animated, whatever. Doctor 11 kicks the Tenth Doctor's butt, though. Might just be the writing, but who knows.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Another unfortunately named show. lol. I know several people who were turned off from ever watching Buffy because of the name. I get why Joss Whedon named it that, but... its unfortunate that a lot of people got the wrong idea and never watched it. (The movie didn't help, either. )

As for Doctor Who... I agree the last season was awesome and I do think a lot of it was the writing. I'm a HUGE David Tennant fan and I was so nervous about Matt Smith being so young. But he ended up really surprising me. I found myself one day thinking "ZOMG, do I actually like the 11th Doctor better than the 10th?! How can that be?" ... but I think that was due to Matt Smith being given (overall) a lot better writing to work with.

Sorry... now back to your previously scheduled Lost discussion.

So who bought the box set?

Got it in the mail today, and it's a beauty.

i watched the 11 minute episode today. i REALLY they would covered more stuff. We already knew about the bears! But finding out about the birds was cool. Didnt know that.

More detailed summary PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE

Verification of the truth of the words of the Book of Counted Shadows, if spoken by another, rather than read by the one who commands the boxes, can only be ensured by the use of a Confessor...

Of the mini episode or the box set?
Won't spoil the episode just yet


The box set is awesome and filled with easter eggs and physical hidden goodies.  I won't spoil those for other who haven't found them yet.

Did you get the Matthew Fox Sears ads as part of the box-set, or was that the Super Special Jimmy Kimmel edition?

:)

Here is the most interesting theory I've read on the nature of the Island.  There are a couple points that kinda stretch, but most of it makes sense.

Chris Hinton


Here is the most interesting theory I've read on the nature of the Island.  There are a couple points that kinda stretch, but most of it makes sense.

interesting read.....definately a plausible theory, very well thought out and explained. It'll be neat to have that in the back of my mind when I decide to revisti the series and watch it over. Thanks for the article!

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Chris Hinton


Here is the most interesting theory I've read on the nature of the Island.  There are a couple points that kinda stretch, but most of it makes sense.

interesting read.....definately a plausible theory, very well thought out and explained. It'll be neat to have that in the back of my mind when I decide to revisti the series and watch it over. Thanks for the article!

I was thinking the same thing!  After reading that, it makes me like Lost even more! 

So I'm re-watching the show for the first time AFTER seeing the finale...  the show kind of takes on a whole other light now.  Currently in the middle of season three...

Oh, nos, teh others!   

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Don't know if I can post a link or not, but go to youtube and search for "Lost Comic Con 2011".  

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Thanks Chris Hinton.....that was pretty frickin' funny.
 
Barry! Finally!

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Chris Hinton


Don't know if I can post a link or not, but go to youtube and search for "Lost Comic Con 2011".  

That was friggin hilarious. God I miss that show.

"I'm in a glass case of emotion."

Best show of all time!


Funny shit, too! Thanks for posting.

It's on the official ABC Lost page, so yes, you can post a link to it.

Quite awesome.
 
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ROKCh7TyRcA

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^ Absolutely hilarious! I would love to hear those characters do a commentary of the whole series.

Haha, "They want answers, not CORKS!" LOLOLOL

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^ Absolutely hilarious! I would love to hear those characters do a commentary of the whole series.

That would be cool if they released 4 or 5 of these type of things a year.....comedically explaining away some of the ridiculous things they had us all hooked on. They totally just ripped on everyone for making such a big deal out of what the MIB's name was, and the time travel stuff.... Pretty funny.

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran