Survivor Heroes vs. Villains

I'm supa supa excited about Survivor Heroes vs. Villains. It's starting February 11th. The cast is revealed and it's good! I'm only disappointed that Erik Reichenback isn't on as a hero. He was awesome. BUT Stephenie Lagrossa is back! I'm in love with her. And Rupert!! 

The cast is SOOOO good. Go here to see: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/

Yeah I am stoked for this season. Yeah I caught the cast list this morning. Some of personal favorites form both the Heroes and Villains are there. Can't wait until Feb 11th!!!

I hardly know any of the people. I recognize a few of the men and Jerri is probably the only female I know. I watched the first three... then the pirate one... then missed everything after all-stars until the new season. Wouldn't have watched the new one except a marathon was on and I had absolutely nothing to do that day.

I might give this one a try.

Who wants to predict some things?

Me, I think Russell, JT, sandra, Tom and Parvati will be some of the first to go. Based on everyone knowing that they have money. Russell will be a big target because they know how he plays. why would they keep him around. 

Something tells me that Rob Mariano will quit because he just had a daughter and he doesn't seem like he has the same fire. Based on his new interview. It sounds like his wife wanted him to go more than he does.

Not even "Boston Rob" Mariano's newborn baby could stop him from returning to "Survivor."

Mariano is among 20 former contestants who will compete in CBS' "Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains," the reality series' 20th season, premiering Feb. 11 (8 p.m. EST). He left behind 4-week-old daughter Lucia Rose and wife, Amber Brkich, who bested Mariano to win the "All-Stars" edition in 2004 and accepted his marriage proposal during the finale.
"If she was out here with me, I don't think I'd have a chance in hell at winning," the former "Survivor: Marquesas" and "All-Stars" player said of his wife.

"I think they'd get rid of both of us right away," he said. "With her not here, I think I'll have a little bit of room to maneuver. Hopefully, I can sway some people my way."



Richard Hatch, who was convicted in 2006 of failing to pay taxes on the $1 million he earned for winning the Borneo-set first season of "Survivor" in 2000, asked a judge last July if he could leave home confinement early to compete in the 20th season. He argued that any money he earned from the reality show could be used to pay his tax obligations. His request was denied.

kidgloves2

Russell will be a big target because they know how he plays. why would they keep him around. 

NO ONE will know how Russell plays.  They filmed this one only 3 weeks after Samoa, so he'll be a total stranger to everyone.  Huge advantage.  I'll predict he'll go far because the others will be out to get each other.

I'm hoping for some sort of sarcasm alliance between Courtney and Tyson, and some serious amounts of wisdom imparted by Coach.  Totally psyched about these contestants.

Cohkka


NO ONE will know how Russell plays.  They filmed this one only 3 weeks after Samoa, so he'll be a total stranger to everyone.  Huge advantage.  I'll predict he'll go far because the others will be out to get each other.

Wait...So, during the recent reunion show was Russell done filming two seasons? If not, then the heroes and villains were watching him. If he did wrap up two season already, then his whole speech about wanting the title might be a little telling. 

WTF!!

Also, Johnny Fairplay is one of the best villains ever. He must not want it. Too bad.

Cohkka

kidgloves2

Russell will be a big target because they know how he plays. why would they keep him around. 

NO ONE will know how Russell plays.  They filmed this one only 3 weeks after Samoa, so he'll be a total stranger to everyone.  Huge advantage.

 
Definitely an advantage that they don't know how he plays the game.  But I think it could be a disadvantage that they don't know him at all.  That plus the fact that he's on the villains to me means that it is VERY unlikely that people will trust him.  I personally hope he goes very far b/c although I hated him at first, I quickly changed my opinion on him and I think he is probably the most entertaining player yet. 

kidgloves2


Also, Johnny Fairplay is one of the best villains ever. He must not want it. Too bad.

Considering he quit the last time he was on, I would have been surprised if they had asked him to come back.

DT2003

 
Definitely an advantage that they don't know how he plays the game.  But I think it could be a disadvantage that they don't know him at all.  That plus the fact that he's on the villains to me means that it is VERY unlikely that people will trust him.  I personally hope he goes very far b/c although I hated him at first, I quickly changed my opinion on him and I think he is probably the most entertaining player yet. 

That's almost unfair to everyone else. They can do research on each other, but not on him?
 
Are you guys sure he finished 2 seasons by the time we saw the Samoa reunion?

Also, does anyone know how much time passes between the last day when jury votes and the reunion show?

Both seasons had finished filming before Samoa was even on television.

Russell may have spoiled something BUT he may have been instructed to say a bit of what he said on the reunion, making it sound like he wasn't backing up straight away.

Burnett would NOT have let that slide.

I only know about half of the cast, but i'm stoked to see Randy back! Dude was awesome. However, no Richard and no Johnny Fairplay is lame.

I hope Ruhb and Rupert die in a fire the first night, otherwise this will be hard to watch.

Aside from 5 or 6 "terrific players", this is a very weak cast!

pullmyfinger


Aside from 5 or 6 "terrific players", this is a very weak cast!

I was really hoping that Fighter Pilot Terry would have recieved another chance.

How many people were offered a chance, but turned it down? We will never know. I can guarantee you that Fairplay was asked even though he quit last time. And fighter pilot Terry was probably asked too. I would bet on it.

If nobody knows how Russell plays, I bet he goes far again. I think he will keep his mouth shut this time.

Hell fucking yeah!  This is gonna rule.  I love survivor.

1) People like Tyson and Coach are together on the cast because they wanted interaction with people that would react with each other, this is also why we've got some of the Fans v Favourites people (I'm gonna assume Ozzy declined coming on too).
2) Sorry wait, Tyson's the replacement for Hatch who was slotted to take the 20th slot
3) Randy is there to counter Sugar. Sugar *hates* Randy.
4) This season will be *dominated* by the heroes unless it's mixed. You have JT, Rupert and Colby, 3 of the most dominate physical survivors *ever* on the same tribe.
5) People may ask why Dreamz isn't on, and as stated before, interactions. There's no Yauman. If Yauman were on, Dreamz would have been slotted in instantly if he said yes (Which I doubt, because I think the *whole* of America hates him).

Any other questions? :P

That would have been a GREAT idea. Survivor RIVALS. It's sort of happening this season with Sugar Vs. Randy, also Colby Vs. Jerri. But an entire cast of known rivals would be amazing.
This season:
Dreamz could have easily replaced Danielle, boring, DiLorenzo as a villain
Yauman could easily have replaced boring ass Candice as a Hero

There are so many options for future seasons. I will always bring up Ultimate Survivor with only 1st place winners returning. Then people can't get voted out because they already won a million. Also, someone winning 1st place twice would be SICK!
 
They could do the same thing with Survivor Runner-ups.

Another idea is Survivor hotties. Bring back the most attractive past players. Splitting it equally male and female. Put them on a nude beach and let them battle.

In that case, where's Richard Hatch? :P

There already will be some rivalries. Can you imagine the power struggle that Boston Rob and Parvati will have? Boston Rob managed to get the greatest player ever in Rob C voted out of the game early on in the all-stars, and Parvati is a natural flirt, so  I'm very initerested to see how this goes.

I wish Ian from Palau would be there as a hero. That and no Yau-man are my only complaints. He'd have absolutely smashed Westman if he didn't have a clash of conscious before that final 3.

Saintsmaen


1) People like Tyson and Coach are together on the cast because they wanted interaction with people that would react with each other, this is also why we've got some of the Fans v Favourites people (I'm gonna assume Ozzy declined coming on too).
2) Sorry wait, Tyson's the replacement for Hatch who was slotted to take the 20th slot
3) Randy is there to counter Sugar. Sugar *hates* Randy.
4) This season will be *dominated* by the heroes unless it's mixed. You have JT, Rupert and Colby, 3 of the most dominate physical survivors *ever* on the same tribe.
5) People may ask why Dreamz isn't on, and as stated before, interactions. There's no Yauman. If Yauman were on, Dreamz would have been slotted in instantly if he said yes (Which I doubt, because I think the *whole* of America hates him).

Any other questions? :P

Gotta disagree with #4.  I think the final 2/3 will be all villains.  But I agree with #5 -- Dreams and Yau-Man would have been great to see against one another again.

And yeah, no Terry Dietz... but they already had Tom Westman and Colby.  There can only be so much concentrated awesome in any given season.

The heroes tribes does seem to have a slight physical advantage.  I hope they don't do a mix up though, because it's just cooler to have two distinct tribes all the way up to the merge.  It's one of the things I really liked in season 18 and 19, because I think the last time that they didn't do a mix up was way back in season 10.

As in like.

5 heroes and 5 villains make up one tribe
5 heroes and 5 villains make up another.

You cannot tell me that the list we've got there does not put the heroes as absolutely slaying the villains in the challenges. Tyson, Russell, Boston Rob do not stand a chance against Rupert, Colby and JT.

kidgloves2

There are so many options for future seasons. I will always bring up Ultimate Survivor with only 1st place winners returning. Then people can't get voted out because they already won a million. Also, someone winning 1st place twice would be SICK!
 
They could do the same thing with Survivor Runner-ups.

Another similar idea my brother had is to have a Survivor show with just all of the FIRST people voted out from each season.  No one ever got a chance to know them and none of them ever got a chance to really play the "game".  Who knows how they would fare?

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

Saintsmaen


As in like.

5 heroes and 5 villains make up one tribe
5 heroes and 5 villains make up another.

You cannot tell me that the list we've got there does not put the heroes as absolutely slaying the villains in the challenges. Tyson, Russell, Boston Rob do not stand a chance against Rupert, Colby and JT.

Not all challenges are pure brawn, though.  I wouldn't be shocked if the Villains won the first challenge.

crow

Another similar idea my brother had is to have a Survivor show with just all of the FIRST people voted out from each season.  No one ever got a chance to know them and none of them ever got a chance to really play the "game".  Who knows how they would fare?

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

This could also make for a very boring season. Usually the first person voted out doesn't have much going for them or they're really annoying. Even for the audience. Not always the case, but more than not. 

But I still would watch it. 

OMG what an AMAZING first episode!! And the preview for next week looks SICK!!

I just hope Stephenie Lagrossa stays a long time. She's so hot. Actually there are a lot of hotties!

yeah...it was good...Sugar was marked for death after that loss....

kidgloves2


OMG what an AMAZING first episode!! And the preview for next week looks SICK!!

I just hope Stephenie Lagrossa stays a long time. She's so hot. Actually there are a lot of hotties!

I'm a Steph fan, but after watching every freakin' hero say "Tom and Stephenie" when they're asked about threats, I guarantee the next time the Villains win immunity, Steph is going home.  That's just how it is with the editing on Survivor... you can kind of tell the narrative they're feeding us.

I agree with Boston Rob who had the best line of the night: "If they knew what they wuh doin' they would vote my ahhs off first thing.  But they don't.  They nevuh do."

I forgot to mention that it seems that they all saw Russell's season. When he approached Danielle and Parv, they knew all about him. I thought Russell was going to have the advantage of being unknown, but it looks otherwise.

And Rupert doesn't have that same fire in him. I hope his toe doesn't bring him down. I want to see him do well and kick some ass. He kind of sucked on the first all-stars too. But what an amazing player his first time around. I want to see that again. 

Good first episode, I'd like to see them get Cirie out ASAP since she's awesome at flying under the radar and knows it. As for Amanda and especially Danielle, well they can stay

I thought it was a great first episode, but...

Who was the bonehead who thought they should do the most physical challenge first thing? In the first 10 minutes of the show, we almost lost two of the most popular contestants ever. Not a smart decision.

Boston Rob was the best tonight. Rooting for Tom (my best friend is his cousin, so I have a vested interest), James and, for some strange reason, Randy. Wouldn't mind seeing Amanda, Parvati and Danielle stick around for a while though.

TKH

kidgloves2


I forgot to mention that it seems that they all saw Russell's season. When he approached Danielle and Parv, they knew all about him. I thought Russell was going to have the advantage of being unknown, but it looks otherwise.

The way Parv reacted after he approached her, it definitely seems like she knows about his game.  I think he might be a little too arrogant this time around and I think it will hurt him.  For me, I'm hoping Randy is the next to go as I just cannot stand that guy.

kidgloves2


I forgot to mention that it seems that they all saw Russell's season. When he approached Danielle and Parv, they knew all about him. I thought Russell was going to have the advantage of being unknown, but it looks otherwise.

And Rupert doesn't have that same fire in him. I hope his toe doesn't bring him down. I want to see him do well and kick some ass. He kind of sucked on the first all-stars too. But what an amazing player his first time around. I want to see that again. 

It's not possible because filming for All Stars finished before the first episode of Samoa finished.

I thought Richard Hatch was going to be on this? 

KirksNoseHair


I thought Richard Hatch was going to be on this? 

From a few posts above you

"Richard Hatch, who was convicted in 2006 of failing to pay taxes on the $1 million he earned for winning the Borneo-set first season of "Survivor" in 2000, asked a judge last July if he could leave home confinement early to compete in the 20th season. He argued that any money he earned from the reality show could be used to pay his tax obligations. His request was denied."

Ah, thanks, FlamTap, I missed that post.  Yeah, Hatch is an idiot, but he was a devious player of the game.

The Killing Hand


I thought it was a great first episode, but...

Who was the bonehead who thought they should do the most physical challenge first thing? In the first 10 minutes of the show, we almost lost two of the most popular contestants ever. Not a smart decision.

Boston Rob was the best tonight. Rooting for Tom (my best friend is his cousin, so I have a vested interest), James and, for some strange reason, Randy. Wouldn't mind seeing Amanda, Parvati and Danielle stick around for a while though.

TKH

That is not the most physical challenge of the season, eps. 2 is high strength, and eps. 3 has all out war. Way more to come.......