Survivor Heroes vs. Villains

Russell hasn't bonded with the tribe? Have you seen him and Parvati? o.0. If I were Mrs. Hantz I'd be worried right about now.

It's seriously going to be a clash of the egos in Rob and Russell next time Villains go to tribal, unless someone does something stupid.

I can imagine an alliance of Jerri, Coach, Russell, Danielle and Parvati. But I still think Amanda's already won the game. (What a babe with her glasses... *drool*)

Edit: I heard it was between James and Ozzy for the heroes tribe. I think they went with James because I'd be fearing for Parvati's life if they let Ozzy within a 100ft of her. :D

Hmmm...good point...I guess they didn't show him too much this week...but he is pretty tight with her....I stand corrected...

bobs23

KirksNoseHair

raisingfear101

KirksNoseHair


Watch and learn.  Boston Rob is gonna own everyone.  You'll see.

Yea, says the guy from Boston.

Unfortunately it looks like Russell will be gone soon, so I'll most likely end up rooting for Rob the rest of the way.

Don't count Russell out just yet.  But I really think Bob is gonna be the winner.  The thing with Bob is he kind of comes off as a dopey goofball, but he's cunning.  Russell is too cocky. 

This will play out in Eps.7

So you're saying there will be a showdown or something like that between Russell and Rob in a few weeks? I'm hoping you're not saying Russell gets voted out. I'd hate for Russell to go home, and I don't like spoilers. I don't think you're spoiling it. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble, and am just looking for some clarification.

After reading the blogs that Crow posted on pg 2 and learning how they film and edit the show for obvious dramatic effect I am not so sure that the discovery of the immunity message, by both tribes, as multiple players noticed it at once on both tribes, was such a coincidence. The skeptic in me is thinking that this may have been staged a bit. Sure the message was placed in items where they had the chance of being discovered by one individual but the fact that both tribes on the same day (apparently) makes me wonder if this wasn't a set up of sorts. 

And.....Coach? C'mon, honestly. All this dragon slayer, last of the Mohican, budda, most honorable warrior  blah blah blah drvvle.... it's a bit over done and way off target. I'm sure the dude is a nice man but seriously.  

gmillerdrake


After reading the blogs that Crow posted on pg 2 and learning how they film and edit the show for obvious dramatic effect I am not so sure that the discovery of the immunity message, by both tribes, as multiple players noticed it at once on both tribes, was such a coincidence. The skeptic in me is thinking that this may have been staged a bit. Sure the message was placed in items where they had the chance of being discovered by one individual but the fact that both tribes on the same day (apparently) makes me wonder if this wasn't a set up of sorts. 

It'd be my suspicion that the producers came in and got someone to plan the note in the heroes tribe overnight.

Saintsmaen

I can imagine an alliance of Jerri, Coach, Russell, Danielle and Parvati. But I still think Amanda's already won the game. (What a babe with her glasses... *drool*)

Maybe.  Coattail-riders win the game.  Last season, that was all Natalie did.  As long as Russell was calling the shots and she was in his pocket, she knew she was safe.  This season, Amanda already got threatened once, but she's a coattail-rider so she has a chance.  You have to look at the players who are in the pocket of the "puppet masters" to find those with the best chance at an ending.  Remember the "puppet masters" end up with too many jury enemies so they can't win... look at Russell last season, best player ever but he left himself no way to win... the only ones to manage it that I can think of have been Richard Hatch, Todd Herzog, and Yul Kwon, and all three of those had favorable matchups in the final.

So let's speculate...

Boston Rob owns Coach, Danielle, and Jerri.
Russell owns Parvati and Sandra.
Tyson and Courtney are free agents which means they are dead money.
Coach is an idiot and will self-destruct.  Danielle doesn't have the benefit of poorly-designed challenges this time around, so she may not last much longer.
This leaves as viable winners on the villains tribe: Jerri, Sandra, and Parvati.

James owns Amanda and Rupert -- Rupert even confirmed this at Tribal Council!
J.T. is trying to play "Swing vote", which stops working after the merge if Rob or Russell is still standing.
Colby and Tom are doomed allies.
Candice is a free agent which means she is dead money.
This leaves as viable winners on the heroes tribe: Amanda and Rupert.

So our viable players are Jerri, Sandra, Parvati, Amanda, and Rupert.

Knock out Rupert: none of the others will take him to final 2 because they know he will be unbeatable.
Knock out Amanda: she CANNOT win final jury, as we've seen twice already, but she has as good a chance as anyone of making it that far.
Parvati is iffy: she's bottled sleaze 100%, but she will have friends on the jury, just like in Micronesia.

I call it a coin flip between Jerri and Sandra with both as possible viable winners, based on what we know right now.  That could change with upcoming episodes of course, but I'm pretty confident in it.  I said weeks ago that it would be two villains in the Final Two.  Well, there's my prediction, with Parvati possibly taking the place of either one of them.

Brilliant move on Tom, JT and Kolby's part. Nicely played.

Umm. Amanda was a far better player than Parvati.
Parvati's move v Amanda's move was definitely the bonus to Amanda.
Parvati only won because she's quite literally a slut (Go back to her original season when she was at Ponderosa. Oh god.)
Going back to China, Amanda was the one who wanted James gone. She never got the credit. To make the move with 2 immunity idols in the guys pocket is fucking risky, and it paid off.

So anyone that says Amanda is a coat-tailer just falls so short of thinking about everything.

Edits fail hard, just look at Samoa. Natalie never made the move to get rid of Erik, Jaison did. (If you need a recap, go back to when Erik talked the 3 of the buffoons down when they were sitting and then Jaison goes into Incredible Hulk mode and says I don't care if I go down, we're going after him).


Edit: JT was a puppet master. He knew that by sticking with coach he won his vote.

Saintsmaen

So anyone that says Amanda is a coat-tailer just falls so short of thinking about everything.

I see a lot of talk.  You willing to back that up?  I wager Parv outlasts Amanda this season.

I think 'ol Russ is doomed.  Blatantly going after the hidden immunity idol moments after the tribe decided it made you "marked" was a bad move.

Oh, and Coach is still ridiculous.

Hwangman


I think 'ol Russ is doomed.  Blatantly going after the hidden immunity idol moments after the tribe decided it made you "marked" was a bad move.

Oh, and Coach is still ridiculous.

And the Heroes are the DUMBEST tribe ever in the game!  They voted out Tom instead of an injured and barely able to walk James?  The Heroes tribe now has 2 injured players among their numbers (James and Rupert).  Do they think they'll EVER win another challenge?  They have multiple injured players if it's a physical challenge and they suck at puzzles if it's a mental challenge. 

At this point I'll be shocked if a Villain doesn't win this whole thing.

Remember there is no show next week due to NCAA Basketball and the following week the show is on Wednesday for the same reason.  Also the show on Wednesday "might" only be a clip show.  That is what they have done in years past during the Basketball Tournament.

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

Agree 100%.  I never saw James' season, but it's not like he has been tearing up all the challenges thus far.  I see him yelling at his tribe more than helping them.  I don't know why Colby and Tom were on the outs w/their tribe from the start, but those guys have been really consistent at challenges (along with JT).  James and Rupert haven't been pulling their weight because they're either too injured to go 100% or they're overly aggressive (seeing Rupert throw Jerri into the fence at the challenge was a little shocking). 

As much as i dislike the villains tribe, they've got the momentum, and definitely the right mindset to win.

crow



Remember there is no show next week due to NCAA Basketball and the following week the show is on Wednesday for the same reason.  Also the show on Wednesday "might" only be a clip show.  That is what they have done in years past during the Basketball Tournament.

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

The next episode will not be a clip show

Hwangman


Agree 100%.  I never saw James' season, but it's not like he has been tearing up all the challenges thus far.  I see him yelling at his tribe more than helping them.  I don't know why Colby and Tom were on the outs w/their tribe from the start, but those guys have been really consistent at challenges (along with JT).  James and Rupert haven't been pulling their weight because they're either too injured to go 100% or they're overly aggressive (seeing Rupert throw Jerri into the fence at the challenge was a little shocking). 

As much as i dislike the villains tribe, they've got the momentum, and definitely the right mindset to win.

I think Colby and Toms' problem could be that they are past winners.

bobs23


The next episode will not be a clip show

I think Colby and Toms' problem could be that they are past winners.

That's GREAT to hear.  While I usually watch I'm not a big fan of the clip shows.  It's just usually such a tease, and then you have to wait yet another week for a new show.

Tom was a winner but Colby lost to Tina Weston, who he took to the final 2.

bob23:  Any tidbits or insight on this season's show that you can share with us?  No spoilers though. 

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

 
@Crow    
Sorry you are correct about S2. With 20 seasons of this show and all the other shows that I also work on, the memory becomes a little clouded.
As far as upcoming shows, unlike previous seasons that don't get really good until after the merge this season is good all the way through. Without spoilers.... don't miss show seven, which I think is the first show that goes back to Thur. after the bball tourny.

crow

Hwangman


I think 'ol Russ is doomed.  Blatantly going after the hidden immunity idol moments after the tribe decided it made you "marked" was a bad move.

Oh, and Coach is still ridiculous.

And the Heroes are the DUMBEST tribe ever in the game!  They voted out Tom instead of an injured and barely able to walk James?  The Heroes tribe now has 2 injured players among their numbers (James and Rupert).  Do they think they'll EVER win another challenge?  They have multiple injured players if it's a physical challenge and they suck at puzzles if it's a mental challenge. 

At this point I'll be shocked if a Villain doesn't win this whole thing.

Remember there is no show next week due to NCAA Basketball and the following week the show is on Wednesday for the same reason.  Also the show on Wednesday "might" only be a clip show.  That is what they have done in years past during the Basketball Tournament.

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

were on the outs w/their tribe from the start, but those guys have been really consistent at challenges (along with JT).  James and Rupert haven't been pulling their weight because they're either too injured to go 100% or they're overly aggressive (seeing Rupert throw Jerri into the fence at the challenge was a little shocking). 

This!  Keeping a crippled man around is bad news!  

I think there's good reason to keep James. People underestimated him as someone who's just all brawn. He's played an amazing social game so far. The fact that he can barely walk and they got rid of Tom demonstrates this. The fact that he got the heroes the massive lead demonstrates also his determination to win. He stops and tells them to shut up and says it as it should be say in challenges, and for that reason, they NEED him.

I think it's Rob that's doomed, or Parvati. Russell will be fine first up, but I think if the villains pull off what the Heroes didn't because JT flipped sides, then it'll be Parvati on the chopping block, and there Mr Jimz, is why I think Amanda will go further. :)

Saintsmaen

I think it's Rob that's doomed, or Parvati. Russell will be fine first up, but I think if the villains pull off what the Heroes didn't because JT flipped sides, then it'll be Parvati on the chopping block, and there Mr Jimz, is why I think Amanda will go further. :)

Care to make it interesting?  Let's put a wager on it.  Say... if Amanda is eliminated before Parvati, you have to post a thread about how wrong you were and how right I was, and how you bow down and worship the ground on which I walk, and how I am your daddy and "pwn" you completely, and so on.  And if Parvati is eliminated before Amanda, I will do the same for you.  Bragging rights "up to eleven."

I say: No WAY Amanda beats Parv.  Parvati already beat Amanda in front of a jury once!  Amanda is playing a "I love having sex with James" game right now.  That's pretty much it.  Parvati has Russell on her side, and though I was fairly sure that was a lock for late jury or better BEFORE Thursday, now that Russell has a hidden idol, I am even more certain of it.  Boston Rob is gonna get bamboozled.  Not sure whether this week or what, but definitely before the merge... assuming the Villains ever lose another team immunity challenge!

I still say Rob is your winner.  Because I don't think the villains are going to lose a challenge, and once they merge, all bets are off

I'm glad Tom got voted off, every time he opens his mouth I want to stuff my shoe in it

I'm with kirk..I'm feelin' like Rob has the best chance of taking over after the merge.

KirksNoseHair

I'm glad Tom got voted off, every time he opens his mouth I want to stuff my shoe in it

Me too.  Tom is such a dick.  Seriously, his "know it all" attitude is beyond annoying.  He uses that whole "hero" firefighter thing to death.  It's sickening.  I was glad to see that clown go.

What happened to Colby?  That guy has turned in to a gigantic pussy.  The Heroes team is setup to win it all.  They have size and smarts, but, they're looking like the biggest asses of all time.

If anyone other than James, J.T., Rupert or Russell wins, I'll be completely disappointed.

They put Courtney and Tyson together for lots of one liners, and I've seen one. That one was the biggest tease of a one liner ever. That's the one after Coach smashed Colby. Who yes Magick, is seriously a massive pussy (THEN AGAIN, SO HAS RUPERT :O). And yeh, Tom is annoying, but I was rooting for him because he got rid of Cirie. Then again, I'm super sadfaced that Yau-man or Yul aren't there so none of my opinions of who should have been on the heroes tribe count.

(Liner note: Yau-Man > Rupert).

I can't see Rob winning unless all 7 team up on Russell and Parvati and do a 4/3 vote like what happened with the Brendan vote in Tocantins that never eventuated because he didn't even bother with the idol lol.

I say: No WAY Amanda beats Parv.  Parvati already beat Amanda in front of a jury once!

You're on. I take up on the bet :P

Edit: I don't care if Randy's gone. RANDY > B ROB. :(

KirksNoseHair


I still say Rob is your winner.  Because I don't think the villains are going to lose a challenge, and once they merge, all bets are off

I'm glad Tom got voted off, every time he opens his mouth I want to stuff my shoe in it

I think that Russel has a shot to get Rob voted out. If he has Parviti's vote, gets Coach to vote Rob, he and just one more person, he could potentially have 4 votes. Then all that has to happen is that the remaining people (Rob's crew) vote for Russel to flush out that idol and rob is sent home being he has the next most votes. It would take things lining up perfectly for Russel but if he can do some convincing....who knows. If those people were smart they'd blindside Rob the next chance they get or he will continue to school them.
 
Agree with you about Tom, freakin annoying! Good Riddens'.

It's official. I want to make babies with Russell. That guy's an evil genius. 

Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

I want Russell to win, but I'd like to see him and Rob buttheads til the end.

Brilliant play by Russell.  When he told Tyson that he was going to vote for Parvatti, I thought, "no way Tyson is dumb enough to buy that."  I was blown away. 

I hated to see James get voted off, though.  I've always rooted for that guy. 

Bad Magick


When he told Tyson that he was going to vote for Parvatti, I thought, "no way Tyson is dumb enough to buy that." 

I've always maintained that Tyson was an, um..., how do you say idiot in a politically correct way? Eh...he is/was/will continue to be an overhyped moron like the majority of those folk.
 
That was a killer tribal, that look on Rob's face was priceless....looks like that rookie took the old man deep in his first at bat. Lets see how the vet responds. I wouldn't think it would be to hard for Russel to sway a couple of Rob's crew. All he has to do is point out how Rob is running that tribe and game and how after they merge the other side will be 'star struck' like they all are and he will outplay them as well. It certainly is entertaining. I will root for Russel to outlast Rob but I don't think he is going to be able to pull it off.

If Russ and Parvati make it to the merge (13 left, 1 to go likely), heroes lose and vote colby, then Russ and Parvati align with the heroes and drag coach (JT just needs to puppy dog eye him again like in Tocantins, and after Russell showed Coach how "loyal" he was, holy shit) along and it's gg.

Just out of curiousity, does anyone think that Russell, despite the so-called caniving bastard people say to him, has been one of the most loyal survivors in recent times? (Coach was a fucking liar in Tocantins, and anyone that disagrees can get an essay of proof)

Rob's best move now would be to throw immunity. I'm not surprised if they do it.
There needs to be a Gabon challenge where one person can win immunity for the tribe.


P.S. Rob almost looked like he was in tears.

Was that the best tribal counsel ever?!? When Russ gave the idol to Parv I got chills! This show is so good, sometimes I wonder if it's secretly written. 

Remember, Rob's crew split their votes between 2 people. They still outnumber Russ. Next time they can use all their votes to get russ out. It's going to be Rob, Sandra, Courtney, Jerri and Coach VS. Russ, Parv and Danielle. That's 5 vs. 3. Even if Russ turns Coach it will be 4 vs. 4. Russ needs to turn 2 people. Maybe Coach and Jerri. I don't think it's going to be easy. Russ needs to find another Hidden Idol. FAST!!

HomerJ


Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

What happened last night doesn't really matter because Russell is still outnumbered, buy a significant margin.

And now EVERYONE in that tribe KNOWS that he went out a got the hidden idol, which  was something they had all agreed not to do.

His only hope for not going home next week is to win immunity, otherwise he's going bye bye

Yeh. But the merge will be after 1 more goes home. 20 people seasons merge at 12.
If Villains win (which like I said would have to involve Rob throwing the challenge because he's fucking gunning it this season), they make it, and Russel and Parvati can bring Coach and save the heroes.

If Villains don't win, as Kidgloves said, Russell is gonna need Coach and Jerri. I can't see Sandra being swayed unless Russell convinces her she'd be the one in danger. Sandra is one of those people that only makes moves when she feels threatened or needs to take heat off her. Courtney could be a swing vote, but she almost looks like she's in love with Rob.

Russell's playing the idol was amazing because no one thought his idea would work, and then his reference to Coach was simply amazing, even if Parvati is the biggest slut ever.

Edit: Jeff's smile on his face when Parvati played the idol gave it alllll away. I'd never seen Jeff react to a move with a smile like that. In 20 seasons, could that be the best survival move ever?

KirksNoseHair

HomerJ


Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

What happened last night doesn't really matter because Russell is still outnumbered, buy a significant margin.

And now EVERYONE in that tribe KNOWS that he went out a got the hidden idol, which  was something they had all agreed not to do.

His only hope for not going home next week is to win immunity, otherwise he's going bye bye

How is he outnumbered significantly?  He has Parv, Danielle and probably Coach now, so that makes it 4-4 (Rob still has Jerri, Courtney and Sandra).  Trust me, Coach will flip to Russell when the time comes.  Plus, the whole tribe has seen how good Rob is in individual challenges, and he could be deadly following the merge, so you can bet that Russell knows that and will use that to his advantage to get rid of him.  Both Russell and Rob are not getting to the merge (unless it comes prematurely), and if I were a betting man in Vegas, and had to put money on one of them not making it, I would put big bucks on Rob not making it.  Russell knows how to read people and when and how to make the right moves, and he will find a way to get the votes necessary to get rid of Rob. 

I agree with all of this above...

I think Russell kinda played all of his cards...but there are bound to be a few more that pop up....Rob will wear thin I think....

Bwahaha. Anything to see Raaaaaaaaahb humbled. Russell got really lucky that Tyson flipped (and essentially voted himself out), but he wouldn't have if Russell had not approached him so kudos to Russ.

"Jeff Probst"
And Russell is absolutely smitten with Parvati. The handing over of the idol from Russell to Parvati was the Survivor version of foreplay. I even got a bit turned on watching it, over and over and over. Think I’m crazy? Go back and take a look again. It’s foreplay. As she takes the idol, Parvati gives him a look that says, “You will most definitely get some tonight.” Of course we all know he won’t, but I think he thinks he will. That’s what I mean when I say Parvati is deadly. Even when you’re not into her, she turns on that charm and next thing you know you’re giving her your… idol.

And this is why Jeff is the best host ever.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/03/25/jeff-probst-blogs-survivor-heroes-vs-villains-episode-6/

I'm totally happy that russell and parvati caused that upset, but I hate that they had to target Tyson.  The rest of the season will be a lot less funny without him.

HomerJ

KirksNoseHair

HomerJ


Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

What happened last night doesn't really matter because Russell is still outnumbered, buy a significant margin.

And now EVERYONE in that tribe KNOWS that he went out a got the hidden idol, which  was something they had all agreed not to do.

His only hope for not going home next week is to win immunity, otherwise he's going bye bye

How is he outnumbered significantly?  He has Parv, Danielle and probably Coach now

Probably?

Watch what happens next. 

By the way, I fucking can't stand Rob.  (or Russell for that matter)

Just thought should mention that.

But I think quite a few of you are misreading what happened last night.

We shall see.