Survivor Heroes vs. Villains

Russell hasn't bonded with the tribe? Have you seen him and Parvati? o.0. If I were Mrs. Hantz I'd be worried right about now.

It's seriously going to be a clash of the egos in Rob and Russell next time Villains go to tribal, unless someone does something stupid.

I can imagine an alliance of Jerri, Coach, Russell, Danielle and Parvati. But I still think Amanda's already won the game. (What a babe with her glasses... *drool*)

Edit: I heard it was between James and Ozzy for the heroes tribe. I think they went with James because I'd be fearing for Parvati's life if they let Ozzy within a 100ft of her. :D

I shall duck behind the couch.

Hmmm...good point...I guess they didn't show him too much this week...but he is pretty tight with her....I stand corrected...

"Be careful.  You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous."

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes em' afraid."

bobs23

KirksNoseHair

raisingfear101

KirksNoseHair


Watch and learn.  Boston Rob is gonna own everyone.  You'll see.

Yea, says the guy from Boston.

Unfortunately it looks like Russell will be gone soon, so I'll most likely end up rooting for Rob the rest of the way.

Don't count Russell out just yet.  But I really think Bob is gonna be the winner.  The thing with Bob is he kind of comes off as a dopey goofball, but he's cunning.  Russell is too cocky. 

This will play out in Eps.7

So you're saying there will be a showdown or something like that between Russell and Rob in a few weeks? I'm hoping you're not saying Russell gets voted out. I'd hate for Russell to go home, and I don't like spoilers. I don't think you're spoiling it. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble, and am just looking for some clarification.

After reading the blogs that Crow posted on pg 2 and learning how they film and edit the show for obvious dramatic effect I am not so sure that the discovery of the immunity message, by both tribes, as multiple players noticed it at once on both tribes, was such a coincidence. The skeptic in me is thinking that this may have been staged a bit. Sure the message was placed in items where they had the chance of being discovered by one individual but the fact that both tribes on the same day (apparently) makes me wonder if this wasn't a set up of sorts. 

And.....Coach? C'mon, honestly. All this dragon slayer, last of the Mohican, budda, most honorable warrior  blah blah blah drvvle.... it's a bit over done and way off target. I'm sure the dude is a nice man but seriously.  

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

gmillerdrake


After reading the blogs that Crow posted on pg 2 and learning how they film and edit the show for obvious dramatic effect I am not so sure that the discovery of the immunity message, by both tribes, as multiple players noticed it at once on both tribes, was such a coincidence. The skeptic in me is thinking that this may have been staged a bit. Sure the message was placed in items where they had the chance of being discovered by one individual but the fact that both tribes on the same day (apparently) makes me wonder if this wasn't a set up of sorts. 

It'd be my suspicion that the producers came in and got someone to plan the note in the heroes tribe overnight.

I shall duck behind the couch.

Saintsmaen

I can imagine an alliance of Jerri, Coach, Russell, Danielle and Parvati. But I still think Amanda's already won the game. (What a babe with her glasses... *drool*)

Maybe.  Coattail-riders win the game.  Last season, that was all Natalie did.  As long as Russell was calling the shots and she was in his pocket, she knew she was safe.  This season, Amanda already got threatened once, but she's a coattail-rider so she has a chance.  You have to look at the players who are in the pocket of the "puppet masters" to find those with the best chance at an ending.  Remember the "puppet masters" end up with too many jury enemies so they can't win... look at Russell last season, best player ever but he left himself no way to win... the only ones to manage it that I can think of have been Richard Hatch, Todd Herzog, and Yul Kwon, and all three of those had favorable matchups in the final.

So let's speculate...

Boston Rob owns Coach, Danielle, and Jerri.
Russell owns Parvati and Sandra.
Tyson and Courtney are free agents which means they are dead money.
Coach is an idiot and will self-destruct.  Danielle doesn't have the benefit of poorly-designed challenges this time around, so she may not last much longer.
This leaves as viable winners on the villains tribe: Jerri, Sandra, and Parvati.

James owns Amanda and Rupert -- Rupert even confirmed this at Tribal Council!
J.T. is trying to play "Swing vote", which stops working after the merge if Rob or Russell is still standing.
Colby and Tom are doomed allies.
Candice is a free agent which means she is dead money.
This leaves as viable winners on the heroes tribe: Amanda and Rupert.

So our viable players are Jerri, Sandra, Parvati, Amanda, and Rupert.

Knock out Rupert: none of the others will take him to final 2 because they know he will be unbeatable.
Knock out Amanda: she CANNOT win final jury, as we've seen twice already, but she has as good a chance as anyone of making it that far.
Parvati is iffy: she's bottled sleaze 100%, but she will have friends on the jury, just like in Micronesia.

I call it a coin flip between Jerri and Sandra with both as possible viable winners, based on what we know right now.  That could change with upcoming episodes of course, but I'm pretty confident in it.  I said weeks ago that it would be two villains in the Final Two.  Well, there's my prediction, with Parvati possibly taking the place of either one of them.

Brilliant move on Tom, JT and Kolby's part. Nicely played.

http://www.cyberrentals.com/rental/p120774

Umm. Amanda was a far better player than Parvati.
Parvati's move v Amanda's move was definitely the bonus to Amanda.
Parvati only won because she's quite literally a slut (Go back to her original season when she was at Ponderosa. Oh god.)
Going back to China, Amanda was the one who wanted James gone. She never got the credit. To make the move with 2 immunity idols in the guys pocket is fucking risky, and it paid off.

So anyone that says Amanda is a coat-tailer just falls so short of thinking about everything.

Edits fail hard, just look at Samoa. Natalie never made the move to get rid of Erik, Jaison did. (If you need a recap, go back to when Erik talked the 3 of the buffoons down when they were sitting and then Jaison goes into Incredible Hulk mode and says I don't care if I go down, we're going after him).


Edit: JT was a puppet master. He knew that by sticking with coach he won his vote.

I shall duck behind the couch.

Saintsmaen

So anyone that says Amanda is a coat-tailer just falls so short of thinking about everything.

I see a lot of talk.  You willing to back that up?  I wager Parv outlasts Amanda this season.

I think 'ol Russ is doomed.  Blatantly going after the hidden immunity idol moments after the tribe decided it made you "marked" was a bad move.

Oh, and Coach is still ridiculous.

Hwangman


I think 'ol Russ is doomed.  Blatantly going after the hidden immunity idol moments after the tribe decided it made you "marked" was a bad move.

Oh, and Coach is still ridiculous.

And the Heroes are the DUMBEST tribe ever in the game!  They voted out Tom instead of an injured and barely able to walk James?  The Heroes tribe now has 2 injured players among their numbers (James and Rupert).  Do they think they'll EVER win another challenge?  They have multiple injured players if it's a physical challenge and they suck at puzzles if it's a mental challenge. 

At this point I'll be shocked if a Villain doesn't win this whole thing.

Remember there is no show next week due to NCAA Basketball and the following week the show is on Wednesday for the same reason.  Also the show on Wednesday "might" only be a clip show.  That is what they have done in years past during the Basketball Tournament.

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

Agree 100%.  I never saw James' season, but it's not like he has been tearing up all the challenges thus far.  I see him yelling at his tribe more than helping them.  I don't know why Colby and Tom were on the outs w/their tribe from the start, but those guys have been really consistent at challenges (along with JT).  James and Rupert haven't been pulling their weight because they're either too injured to go 100% or they're overly aggressive (seeing Rupert throw Jerri into the fence at the challenge was a little shocking). 

As much as i dislike the villains tribe, they've got the momentum, and definitely the right mindset to win.

crow



Remember there is no show next week due to NCAA Basketball and the following week the show is on Wednesday for the same reason.  Also the show on Wednesday "might" only be a clip show.  That is what they have done in years past during the Basketball Tournament.

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

The next episode will not be a clip show

Hwangman


Agree 100%.  I never saw James' season, but it's not like he has been tearing up all the challenges thus far.  I see him yelling at his tribe more than helping them.  I don't know why Colby and Tom were on the outs w/their tribe from the start, but those guys have been really consistent at challenges (along with JT).  James and Rupert haven't been pulling their weight because they're either too injured to go 100% or they're overly aggressive (seeing Rupert throw Jerri into the fence at the challenge was a little shocking). 

As much as i dislike the villains tribe, they've got the momentum, and definitely the right mindset to win.

I think Colby and Toms' problem could be that they are past winners.

bobs23


The next episode will not be a clip show

I think Colby and Toms' problem could be that they are past winners.

That's GREAT to hear.  While I usually watch I'm not a big fan of the clip shows.  It's just usually such a tease, and then you have to wait yet another week for a new show.

Tom was a winner but Colby lost to Tina Weston, who he took to the final 2.

bob23:  Any tidbits or insight on this season's show that you can share with us?  No spoilers though. 

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

 
@Crow    
Sorry you are correct about S2. With 20 seasons of this show and all the other shows that I also work on, the memory becomes a little clouded.
As far as upcoming shows, unlike previous seasons that don't get really good until after the merge this season is good all the way through. Without spoilers.... don't miss show seven, which I think is the first show that goes back to Thur. after the bball tourny.

crow

Hwangman


I think 'ol Russ is doomed.  Blatantly going after the hidden immunity idol moments after the tribe decided it made you "marked" was a bad move.

Oh, and Coach is still ridiculous.

And the Heroes are the DUMBEST tribe ever in the game!  They voted out Tom instead of an injured and barely able to walk James?  The Heroes tribe now has 2 injured players among their numbers (James and Rupert).  Do they think they'll EVER win another challenge?  They have multiple injured players if it's a physical challenge and they suck at puzzles if it's a mental challenge. 

At this point I'll be shocked if a Villain doesn't win this whole thing.

Remember there is no show next week due to NCAA Basketball and the following week the show is on Wednesday for the same reason.  Also the show on Wednesday "might" only be a clip show.  That is what they have done in years past during the Basketball Tournament.

Chris
crowtoo@earthlink.net

were on the outs w/their tribe from the start, but those guys have been really consistent at challenges (along with JT).  James and Rupert haven't been pulling their weight because they're either too injured to go 100% or they're overly aggressive (seeing Rupert throw Jerri into the fence at the challenge was a little shocking). 

This!  Keeping a crippled man around is bad news!  

"Be careful.  You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous."

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes em' afraid."

I think there's good reason to keep James. People underestimated him as someone who's just all brawn. He's played an amazing social game so far. The fact that he can barely walk and they got rid of Tom demonstrates this. The fact that he got the heroes the massive lead demonstrates also his determination to win. He stops and tells them to shut up and says it as it should be say in challenges, and for that reason, they NEED him.

I think it's Rob that's doomed, or Parvati. Russell will be fine first up, but I think if the villains pull off what the Heroes didn't because JT flipped sides, then it'll be Parvati on the chopping block, and there Mr Jimz, is why I think Amanda will go further. :)

I shall duck behind the couch.

Saintsmaen

I think it's Rob that's doomed, or Parvati. Russell will be fine first up, but I think if the villains pull off what the Heroes didn't because JT flipped sides, then it'll be Parvati on the chopping block, and there Mr Jimz, is why I think Amanda will go further. :)

Care to make it interesting?  Let's put a wager on it.  Say... if Amanda is eliminated before Parvati, you have to post a thread about how wrong you were and how right I was, and how you bow down and worship the ground on which I walk, and how I am your daddy and "pwn" you completely, and so on.  And if Parvati is eliminated before Amanda, I will do the same for you.  Bragging rights "up to eleven."

I say: No WAY Amanda beats Parv.  Parvati already beat Amanda in front of a jury once!  Amanda is playing a "I love having sex with James" game right now.  That's pretty much it.  Parvati has Russell on her side, and though I was fairly sure that was a lock for late jury or better BEFORE Thursday, now that Russell has a hidden idol, I am even more certain of it.  Boston Rob is gonna get bamboozled.  Not sure whether this week or what, but definitely before the merge... assuming the Villains ever lose another team immunity challenge!

I still say Rob is your winner.  Because I don't think the villains are going to lose a challenge, and once they merge, all bets are off

I'm glad Tom got voted off, every time he opens his mouth I want to stuff my shoe in it

I'm with kirk..I'm feelin' like Rob has the best chance of taking over after the merge.

"Be careful.  You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous."

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes em' afraid."

KirksNoseHair

I'm glad Tom got voted off, every time he opens his mouth I want to stuff my shoe in it

Me too.  Tom is such a dick.  Seriously, his "know it all" attitude is beyond annoying.  He uses that whole "hero" firefighter thing to death.  It's sickening.  I was glad to see that clown go.

What happened to Colby?  That guy has turned in to a gigantic pussy.  The Heroes team is setup to win it all.  They have size and smarts, but, they're looking like the biggest asses of all time.

If anyone other than James, J.T., Rupert or Russell wins, I'll be completely disappointed.

https://twitter.com/#!/96GOAT

They put Courtney and Tyson together for lots of one liners, and I've seen one. That one was the biggest tease of a one liner ever. That's the one after Coach smashed Colby. Who yes Magick, is seriously a massive pussy (THEN AGAIN, SO HAS RUPERT :O). And yeh, Tom is annoying, but I was rooting for him because he got rid of Cirie. Then again, I'm super sadfaced that Yau-man or Yul aren't there so none of my opinions of who should have been on the heroes tribe count.

(Liner note: Yau-Man > Rupert).

I can't see Rob winning unless all 7 team up on Russell and Parvati and do a 4/3 vote like what happened with the Brendan vote in Tocantins that never eventuated because he didn't even bother with the idol lol.

I say: No WAY Amanda beats Parv.  Parvati already beat Amanda in front of a jury once!

You're on. I take up on the bet :P

Edit: I don't care if Randy's gone. RANDY > B ROB. :(

I shall duck behind the couch.

KirksNoseHair


I still say Rob is your winner.  Because I don't think the villains are going to lose a challenge, and once they merge, all bets are off

I'm glad Tom got voted off, every time he opens his mouth I want to stuff my shoe in it

I think that Russel has a shot to get Rob voted out. If he has Parviti's vote, gets Coach to vote Rob, he and just one more person, he could potentially have 4 votes. Then all that has to happen is that the remaining people (Rob's crew) vote for Russel to flush out that idol and rob is sent home being he has the next most votes. It would take things lining up perfectly for Russel but if he can do some convincing....who knows. If those people were smart they'd blindside Rob the next chance they get or he will continue to school them.
 
Agree with you about Tom, freakin annoying! Good Riddens'.

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

It's official. I want to make babies with Russell. That guy's an evil genius. 

Curtis with a K
"Fuck me with a sugar dick."

Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

This is everybody's fault but mine! -Homer J. Simpson

I want Russell to win, but I'd like to see him and Rob buttheads til the end.

Curtis with a K
"Fuck me with a sugar dick."

Brilliant play by Russell.  When he told Tyson that he was going to vote for Parvatti, I thought, "no way Tyson is dumb enough to buy that."  I was blown away. 

I hated to see James get voted off, though.  I've always rooted for that guy. 

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Bad Magick


When he told Tyson that he was going to vote for Parvatti, I thought, "no way Tyson is dumb enough to buy that." 

I've always maintained that Tyson was an, um..., how do you say idiot in a politically correct way? Eh...he is/was/will continue to be an overhyped moron like the majority of those folk.
 
That was a killer tribal, that look on Rob's face was priceless....looks like that rookie took the old man deep in his first at bat. Lets see how the vet responds. I wouldn't think it would be to hard for Russel to sway a couple of Rob's crew. All he has to do is point out how Rob is running that tribe and game and how after they merge the other side will be 'star struck' like they all are and he will outplay them as well. It certainly is entertaining. I will root for Russel to outlast Rob but I don't think he is going to be able to pull it off.

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

If Russ and Parvati make it to the merge (13 left, 1 to go likely), heroes lose and vote colby, then Russ and Parvati align with the heroes and drag coach (JT just needs to puppy dog eye him again like in Tocantins, and after Russell showed Coach how "loyal" he was, holy shit) along and it's gg.

Just out of curiousity, does anyone think that Russell, despite the so-called caniving bastard people say to him, has been one of the most loyal survivors in recent times? (Coach was a fucking liar in Tocantins, and anyone that disagrees can get an essay of proof)

Rob's best move now would be to throw immunity. I'm not surprised if they do it.
There needs to be a Gabon challenge where one person can win immunity for the tribe.


P.S. Rob almost looked like he was in tears.

I shall duck behind the couch.

Was that the best tribal counsel ever?!? When Russ gave the idol to Parv I got chills! This show is so good, sometimes I wonder if it's secretly written. 

Remember, Rob's crew split their votes between 2 people. They still outnumber Russ. Next time they can use all their votes to get russ out. It's going to be Rob, Sandra, Courtney, Jerri and Coach VS. Russ, Parv and Danielle. That's 5 vs. 3. Even if Russ turns Coach it will be 4 vs. 4. Russ needs to turn 2 people. Maybe Coach and Jerri. I don't think it's going to be easy. Russ needs to find another Hidden Idol. FAST!!

"I got quipment, I got all that fu#*&^ Sh!+, I got a van I'm a put them equipments in......." - Black Metal Prank Call

HomerJ


Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

What happened last night doesn't really matter because Russell is still outnumbered, buy a significant margin.

And now EVERYONE in that tribe KNOWS that he went out a got the hidden idol, which  was something they had all agreed not to do.

His only hope for not going home next week is to win immunity, otherwise he's going bye bye

Yeh. But the merge will be after 1 more goes home. 20 people seasons merge at 12.
If Villains win (which like I said would have to involve Rob throwing the challenge because he's fucking gunning it this season), they make it, and Russel and Parvati can bring Coach and save the heroes.

If Villains don't win, as Kidgloves said, Russell is gonna need Coach and Jerri. I can't see Sandra being swayed unless Russell convinces her she'd be the one in danger. Sandra is one of those people that only makes moves when she feels threatened or needs to take heat off her. Courtney could be a swing vote, but she almost looks like she's in love with Rob.

Russell's playing the idol was amazing because no one thought his idea would work, and then his reference to Coach was simply amazing, even if Parvati is the biggest slut ever.

Edit: Jeff's smile on his face when Parvati played the idol gave it alllll away. I'd never seen Jeff react to a move with a smile like that. In 20 seasons, could that be the best survival move ever?

I shall duck behind the couch.

KirksNoseHair

HomerJ


Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

What happened last night doesn't really matter because Russell is still outnumbered, buy a significant margin.

And now EVERYONE in that tribe KNOWS that he went out a got the hidden idol, which  was something they had all agreed not to do.

His only hope for not going home next week is to win immunity, otherwise he's going bye bye

How is he outnumbered significantly?  He has Parv, Danielle and probably Coach now, so that makes it 4-4 (Rob still has Jerri, Courtney and Sandra).  Trust me, Coach will flip to Russell when the time comes.  Plus, the whole tribe has seen how good Rob is in individual challenges, and he could be deadly following the merge, so you can bet that Russell knows that and will use that to his advantage to get rid of him.  Both Russell and Rob are not getting to the merge (unless it comes prematurely), and if I were a betting man in Vegas, and had to put money on one of them not making it, I would put big bucks on Rob not making it.  Russell knows how to read people and when and how to make the right moves, and he will find a way to get the votes necessary to get rid of Rob. 

This is everybody's fault but mine! -Homer J. Simpson

I agree with all of this above...

I think Russell kinda played all of his cards...but there are bound to be a few more that pop up....Rob will wear thin I think....

"Be careful.  You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous."

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes em' afraid."

Bwahaha. Anything to see Raaaaaaaaahb humbled. Russell got really lucky that Tyson flipped (and essentially voted himself out), but he wouldn't have if Russell had not approached him so kudos to Russ.

Where do you belong... anally?

"Jeff Probst"
And Russell is absolutely smitten with Parvati. The handing over of the idol from Russell to Parvati was the Survivor version of foreplay. I even got a bit turned on watching it, over and over and over. Think I’m crazy? Go back and take a look again. It’s foreplay. As she takes the idol, Parvati gives him a look that says, “You will most definitely get some tonight.” Of course we all know he won’t, but I think he thinks he will. That’s what I mean when I say Parvati is deadly. Even when you’re not into her, she turns on that charm and next thing you know you’re giving her your… idol.

And this is why Jeff is the best host ever.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/03/25/jeff-probst-blogs-survivor-heroes-vs-villains-episode-6/

I shall duck behind the couch.

I'm totally happy that russell and parvati caused that upset, but I hate that they had to target Tyson.  The rest of the season will be a lot less funny without him.

HomerJ

KirksNoseHair

HomerJ


Boston Rob and his crew got owned by Russell tonight. 

Prediction: Russell will get rid of Rob before the merge.  Russell is simply much smarter and a better player than Rob.

What happened last night doesn't really matter because Russell is still outnumbered, buy a significant margin.

And now EVERYONE in that tribe KNOWS that he went out a got the hidden idol, which  was something they had all agreed not to do.

His only hope for not going home next week is to win immunity, otherwise he's going bye bye

How is he outnumbered significantly?  He has Parv, Danielle and probably Coach now

Probably?

Watch what happens next. 

By the way, I fucking can't stand Rob.  (or Russell for that matter)

Just thought should mention that.

But I think quite a few of you are misreading what happened last night.

We shall see.

KirksNoseHair

But I think quite a few of you are misreading what happened last night.

All that happened was that Russel recognized (as many should) that Tyson is an idiot and he used the Jedi mind trick on him. Had Tyson not been so weak and mentally challenged Robs plan works and Russel goes home.
 
In this instance if I had to choose between Rob or Russel who I am 'rooting' for, I would choose Russel just for the fact of Rob being Rob and Russel looks just like my Father. No similarities in personality but it's freakin weird how much they resemble one another so I'm sure there is some sort of subconcious thing going on there. Anyway thier arrogance and ego are essentially the same and they both clearly know how that game is played, I just usually gravitate towards the underdog and in this case I think that's what Russel is. It's going to be interesting to see how things unfold or it may be just as simple as Villans lose next immunity and Russel is unable to sway two votes and he's gone.
 
If Russel makes it to merge, I think Rob will get voted out the first chance given. At least that would appear to be the smart thing to do.  

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

KirksNoseHair

But I think quite a few of you are misreading what happened last night.

Do share with us the proper way to read what happened.

Where do you belong... anally?

gmillerdrake

KirksNoseHair

But I think quite a few of you are misreading what happened last night.

All that happened was that Russel recognized (as many should) that Tyson is an idiot and he used the Jedi mind trick on him. Had Tyson not been so weak and mentally challenged Robs plan works and Russel goes home.

I am not even sure that is true.  Russell has shown to be a master at reading what people are gonna do, and if Tyson had decided to stick with Rob's plan, for all we know Russell might have figured that out and kept the II for himself, and he would still be in the game.  Not saying Russell is a mind reader, but you know that he had to have a very strong feeling that Tyson was gonna vote for Parv, otherwise he NEVER would have given the idol away.  If he wasn't sure, he would have kept it and saved himself, but he obviously read Tyson well and figured it out, so he gave Parv the idol, and it all worked out....at least for the time being.

And KNH, I will take the "probably" away.  Russell has Coach on his side now.  I guarantee it.  Coach was all but flipping over to him the week before last, and with Russell giving him that little speech last night when giving the idol away, you know that won Coach over for good, as he likes sticking to that honor crap (even though he is full of it).

This is everybody's fault but mine! -Homer J. Simpson

Wait a sec....WAIT A SECOND!! Russ may have told Coach to write Parv's name down. Just in case Russ didn't get through to Tyson, he needed a little insurance since he planned on giving Parv the idol. They only needed 3 votes to get tyson out, not 4. 

Coach may have been in on it.

"I got quipment, I got all that fu#*&^ Sh!+, I got a van I'm a put them equipments in......." - Black Metal Prank Call

Don't you think that Russel made that move to show loyalty to his alliance. This sets him up so that the other people in his alliance to do his dirty work for him.

kidgloves2


Wait a sec....WAIT A SECOND!! Russ may have told Coach to write Parv's name down. Just in case Russ didn't get through to Tyson, he needed a little insurance since he planned on giving Parv the idol. They only needed 3 votes to get tyson out, not 4. 

Coach may have been in on it.

Now THAT would be fuckin crazy.

Curtis with a K
"Fuck me with a sugar dick."

all I have to say is Russell is god for making that play on Tyson. I love how Rob said welcome to the big time and Russell bitch slapped him hard. Russ will probably go home next but it was a great play!

Bear

Bear


all I have to say is Russell is god for making that play on Tyson. I love how Rob said welcome to the big time and Russell bitch slapped him hard. Russ will probably go home next but it was a great play!

Bear

But see, that's where I think some are making the mistake.  Russell's plan actually backfired and that is THE ONLY reason he's still there.

gmillerdrake

KirksNoseHair

But I think quite a few of you are misreading what happened last night.

All that happened was that Russel recognized (as many should) that Tyson is an idiot and he used the Jedi mind trick on him. Had Tyson not been so weak and mentally challenged Robs plan works and Russel goes home.
 

This is what I'm saying about people mis-reading what happened and giving Russell a little too much credit for what happened, because really, when it comes down to it, it was NOT Russell's plan that saved Russell, he did not plan on that vote, he planned on something else, he just got lucky.  Very lucky.  And I think more people are going to be really pissed off about the hidden idol than many think, and Rob is going to leverage that anger against Russell.  Think about it.  They all agreed not to look for it and Russell looked for it, then used it.  That gives Rob an advantage.

I'm not rooting for either of them, I think they're both too arrogant for their own good.  Someone else is going to slip under the radar and win it while these two clowns do all of the chest pounding and "Billy Bad-Ass" posing and stuff.

DevilsFood


Bwahaha. Anything to see Raaaaaaaaahb humbled. Russell got really lucky that Tyson flipped (and essentially voted himself out), but he wouldn't have if Russell had not approached him so kudos to Russ.

Wah, wah, wah, wah...... 

Chris
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I said it last season but after last nights tribal I'll say it again, Russell IS the best player ever to play the game. Last season his tribe was down to 4 at the merge and his tribe picked off the other tribe one by one. Last night Russell was out gunned 6 to 3 and he still comes out victorious.

With every step and every breath it's farther from youth and closer to death and the things I've realized now beckon me to shut my eyes and I will grow to the age of maybe eighty years in such little time. "Where Am I Going"-Gino Vannelli.

KirksNoseHair

How is he outnumbered significantly?  He has Parv, Danielle and probably Coach now

Probably?

Watch what happens next. 

Are you suggesting Russell is going to get voted out?  Because I think he will last quite a bit longer.  How about a friendly wager?  (same terms as for Saintsmaen's and my wager on Parvati vs. Amanda)

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KirksNoseHair

How is he outnumbered significantly?  He has Parv, Danielle and probably Coach now

Probably?

Watch what happens next. 

Are you suggesting Russell is going to get voted out?  Because I think he will last quite a bit longer.  How about a friendly wager?  (same terms as for Saintsmaen's and my wager on Parvati vs. Amanda)

How'd I know when I saw you posted in here, you'd be betting someone something?

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"Fuck me with a sugar dick."

That episode was great.  Russell was awesome.  Like Jeff said in his blog - Rob had a foolproof plan.  If everyone had stuck to their vote, it would have worked out for them.  Tyson's just an idiot.
Is it possible that Russell stood up to play the idol himself, then when he saw the reactions of the tribe, he switched his plan & gave it to Parvati?  I think he's that smart.
The only thing better than Rob's face at tribal council was what James said about Colby.  Superman in a girdle?  That's awesomeness.  I will miss James.  But not as much as Amanda.

Wow.  That was amazing.  Russell IS the greatest!

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I like Boston Rob, but I like Russell even more. I am glad that Russell ended up on top, but I really wish they would've waited longer to get rid of him.

Thankfully the Heroes are already down to 5, and there's no way they merge at less than 10 people, so the Villains are guaranteed to be at least even at the merge.

With Rob out, they will be awful at challenges. I like Russell and Coach, but I definitely don't like them being the only 2 guys on a tribe. Coach is full of crap with his honor stuff. Tocantins was a while ago, but I feel like he was a lot more "honorable" that season than this season.

I wish the Villains voted out Sandra or Courtney b/c Rob's alliance is then still down 1 person, and I think Jerri would stick with Russell. That way even if Rob swayed Coach back, Team Russell would still win a vote 4-3.

Oh well. At least the Heroes are seemingly getting out of their rut and are less pitiful.

Coach has never had honor.  He is as full of shit as ever.  And tonight proved that he actually believes his nonsense about honor, rather than it being partly shtick.  He obviously wanted to vote out Rob, too, but Rob shamed him into basically casting a throwaway vote, which was pathetic on Coach's part.  He basically voted like a chicken shit to maintain honor that he has never had.  Freaking hilarious.  Coach will probably be an emotional basket case again. lol

And as someone who predicted that Russell would outlast Rob, that was a great episode to watch.  From the moment Tyson got voted out, Rob looked like a beaten man.

And I do think they were smart to get rid of Rob now.  Sure, the tribe could have been stronger in challenges by keeping him and getting rid of boney ass Courtney, but Russell couldn't risk Jerri and Coach, both of whom are major wild cards, flipping again.  When you have a chance to take out a guy like Rob, you do it, at the first opportunity. 

This is everybody's fault but mine! -Homer J. Simpson

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And I do think they were smart to get rid of Rob now.  Sure, the tribe could have been stronger in challenges by keeping him and getting rid of boney ass Courtney, but Russell couldn't risk Jerri and Coach, both of whom are major wild cards, flipping again. 

Truer words, dude.  Well observed.

Coach is such a weenie now.  Oh boo hoo I'm crying I'm so unliked and my honor is so besmirched.  If Coach lasts longer than one or two more episodes I'll be flabbergasted.  They're going to vote him out just so they don't have to deal with his randomness anymore! 

And Skeletor Courtney -- to be fair, I am not sure there IS a wrong time to vote her out.  Coach did have a point... she's even worse challenge kryptonite than Stephenie was supposed to be.  She makes bags of antlers look fat.  As shrewd as Rob is, at least he can lift a god damned coconut.

Jerri, well, her confessional on the beach told us a lot.  She "gets it."  She understands now that Russell is the man to follow to the end.  I expect her to stick around for a while.

Nice to see Colby representin' again.  If Colby and Jerri both make the merge, power duo alert.  Though I think they're dead money for the final two because nobody else will take them.  (they'd be unbeatable)

Huge UTR: Sandra.  How she can sit there defying everybody and still not be even remotely targeted is just the damnedest thing.  If those guys aren't careful, they'll be sitting across from her listening to her make her final jury argument.

Very very interesting!!!

Rob was totally out of his league but his ego wouldn't let him play smarter. If I recall correctly, he has won Survivor exactly the same number of times as I have.

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well played

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He used to ride on a white horse and shoot clay pigeons
1,2,3,4,5 just like that and what I want to know is how do you like your blue eyed boy now, Mister Death?"

Boy did I get that one wrong LOL 

Oh well, now I just want to see Russell voted out.

Huge UTR: Sandra.  How she can sit there defying everybody and still not be even remotely targeted is just the damnedest thing.  If those guys aren't careful, they'll be sitting across from her listening to her make her final jury argument.

Coming into this season I've always believed the only previous winner that can win again is Sandra. She flies so low, and will not play the game until she has to. Watch her scramble so fucking hard next week if there is no merge.

I shall duck behind the couch.

Russell is THE most entertaining player in the history of the game. Period. But I think he will eventually sink his own ship. He knows how to get to the end, but he has NO IDEA how to win hearts and get jury votes. The preview for next week looks like he's going to start letting his ego become public again, like last season. Coaches comment on Russell being a bully confirms that for me. 

Nobody mentioned the hilarious beach scene when Rob asks Russ who they should vote out and he says one of the weak, then point to Sandra and Courtney. Right in their face. "One of these two" LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL!!!!!! Another great Survivor moment!

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Heroes are safe once the merge happens.  There's no way the villains can't turn on each other.

Cohkka


Heroes are safe once the merge happens.  There's no way the villains can't turn on each other.

 
Plus the fact that when it is a straight up physical challenge they have dominated the Villans. Even in the 'puzzle' challenges they have had a lead when the puzzle began because they are physically superior. Villans were riding Rob and his puzzle ability for all it was worth. If the Heros can make it to the merge without losing anymore people, with the idol, and the fact that like you said, the Villians will be turning on one another, they will be in good shape. It'll be interesting to see if they maintain a loyalty to one another or not and how the infusion of the other egos will play into it all. That's what makes it so interesting I suppose. I haven't watched survior in several seasons but this has turned out to be pretty entertaining!

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

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Nobody mentioned the hilarious beach scene when Rob asks Russ who they should vote out and he says one of the weak, then point to Sandra and Courtney. Right in their face. "One of these two" LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL!!!!!! Another great Survivor moment!

That was delicious, especially Raaaaaaahb being all "Dude, we don't pick on 'em right to their faces!" I like that Russ doesn't mince words and goes to the point, whether it works for him or not. As much as Russ amuses me, though, I hope the show starts to focus on the rest of the players now that the big rivalry is over with.

Welcome to the Big Leagues indeed, Raaaaaaahb.

Where do you belong... anally?

Well.... umm. Did Russell just?

No. That didn't happen. Wait. Girls. Voted out. Wait.

*sigh*

I always hate Coach til he's gone.

I shall duck behind the couch.

Sorry for double post, won't let me edit, but now thinking about that episode...


...that was the poorest editing ever. Where on earth did Parvati and Danielle decide to vote Coach? :S

I shall duck behind the couch.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I can't believe Sandra fooled Russell. At least I think she did, but it's hard to tell what happened.

Maybe Danielle and Parvati wanted to "teach Russell a lesson" and show that he's not completely in charge? I have no idea. I was quite confused when I saw the votes.

I like how Coach was so calm in his exit interview, but said he hopes they get wiped off the face of the map. Hahaha!

The preview for next week looks amazing. Mostly because I love stupid mistakes, and I really love Russell.

I may have too much of a Russell crush, but this week was only the second time I have been frustrated with him and not known why he was doing stuff. The first time was in the Samoa finale when he was talking trash to Natalie and Mick and quizzing them on their jury speeches, etc.

Russell's a piece of shit.  I will celebrate when he gets voted off, and make no mistake, he'll either get voted off or last to the end then get pwned in the final vote.   No one's going to vote to give that egomaniac a dime.

KirksNoseHair


Russell's a piece of shit.  I will celebrate when he gets voted off, and make no mistake, he'll either get voted off or last to the end then get pwned in the final vote.   No one's going to vote to give that egomaniac a dime.

this

Buffalo Bill is defunct Jesus he was a handsome man
He used to ride on a white horse and shoot clay pigeons
1,2,3,4,5 just like that and what I want to know is how do you like your blue eyed boy now, Mister Death?"

KirksNoseHair


Russell's a piece of shit. 

He is the epitomy of Survivor. Even though I am caught up in this season and am being entertained, this show once again is reminding me why I previoiusly chose to stop watching it. The behind the back tactics, the lying and deception which are disguised as "Outwit" honestly bothers me a bit. I get the concept and understand that it is nearly impossible to win this game by playing honest. there have been a couple to do it but mostly those who make it to the end are real dirt bags. The way the show exploits how people will treat one another when a large sum of money is on the line disgusts me, but yet when I do choose to watch a season I am in it hook, line and sinker. I tell ya the producers of the show know exactly how to feed the human psyche. Before any of you hit me with 'If you don't like it then don't watch it' please re-read my post here. Fully aware of my choices......just wanting to say that as much as Russel is disliked for how he plays the game and his enormous ego, he is in fact what Survivor demands thier competitive players to be.
 

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

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KirksNoseHair


Russell's a piece of shit. 

He is the epitomy of Survivor. Even though I am caught up in this season and am being entertained, this show once again is reminding me why I previoiusly chose to stop watching it. The behind the back tactics, the lying and deception which are disguised as "Outwit" honestly bothers me a bit. I get the concept and understand that it is nearly impossible to win this game by playing honest. there have been a couple to do it but mostly those who make it to the end are real dirt bags. The way the show exploits how people will treat one another when a large sum of money is on the line disgusts me, but yet when I do choose to watch a season I am in it hook, line and sinker. I tell ya the producers of the show know exactly how to feed the human psyche. Before any of you hit me with 'If you don't like it then don't watch it' please re-read my post here. Fully aware of my choices......just wanting to say that as much as Russel is disliked for how he plays the game and his enormous ego, he is in fact what Survivor demands thier competitive players to be.
 

It's one thing to outwit people, it's another thing entirely to intimidate them. 

KirksNoseHair

It's one thing to outwit people, it's another thing entirely to intimidate them. 

I guess I don't have a problem with the way Russel has played the game. I know that you have had a distaste for the man since before day one and I have no issues with that. Character favoritism and preference is a big part of TV viewing and it's clear you ain't be a fan of his. I didn't see his original season so I don't know if he used the same 'bullying' approach as he is now but from what I've seen he has been pretty consistent in his game play thus far. What baffles/intrigues me is that players go along with it. He is arrogant and very cocky and honestly like I was saying that is what the game of Survivor has evolved into, a game where if the players do not adopt these types of techniques then they won't get an opportunity to speak for the million bucks. It's like looking over at the accident on the side of the highway, you shouldn't and don't want to but you always take a glimpse anyway.
 
I am personally turned off by how the outwit portion of the Survior trinity has become nothing more than who is the best at lying. It was the reason I took a few seasons off and the reason why I probably won't watch next season. I don't see the how 'outwiting' someone means lying directly to thier face. There is nothing witty about lying. But that is how that game has progresses and what it has become and millions of folk watch it, including myself so it obviously is doing something to peek our interests.    
 
On a side note, I do believe that since Courtney is still there that we will actually get to witness someone physically break in half.

"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.....Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars."                  Khalil Gibran

KirksNoseHair


Russell's a piece of shit.  I will celebrate when he gets voted off, and make no mistake, he'll either get voted off or last to the end then get pwned in the final vote.   No one's going to vote to give that egomaniac a dime.

Well, you're going to be disappointed then, because I don't think it's gonna happen... for a while, at least.  If you follow the narrative, they are setting Russell up to go deep into the game again.  And I read a rumor (on the Internet, where everything is true, of course) that Russell and Parvati were asked BACK for yet another season in the future.

Something still tells me this will happen...

Jeff: The 17th castaway voted off and the 9th member of our jury...

...Russell.

That's 3, that's enough, you need to bring me your torch.

Just something. Definitely not his reaction on the Samoa reunion. Nope, definitely not that.

I shall duck behind the couch.

Wow, calling people you don't even know 'pieces of shit' based on the way they are playing a game.  Russell plays to win, and has pushed the edge of what is acceptable in the game, but I don't think he deserves all the hate.  He is just a regular guy in real life I think.

Parvati and Russell will pwn after the merge, you wait and see.

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Did anyone else straight away know that it was JT who was going to be shown when they started talking dumb moves?

I shall duck behind the couch.

Tyson, Rob and then Coach.  They're voting off the most entertaining people!  I wanted to see Coach in a final tribal council.  Damn.