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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 1:40 PM
Breaks me heart that there's no second North American tour, but at least that makes room for Transatlantic!  I'm actually MORE excited about that.  I've never seen Transatlantic and I've seen DT plenty of times.

Also, earlier MP mentioned the possibility of Portnoy/Akerfeldt/Wilson happening in 2010?  With the lack of DT tours he'd have some more free time.  (LOL I bring this up in every freakin' thread XD)
 
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 2:51 PM
After seeing them on the Prog Nation 09 stop at Columbia, MD, I had no intentions of seeing them again in support of BC&SL, so I can't say I was all that disappointed to learn they are not touring the U.S. in 2010.

I don't play video games, so I hope the instrumental ends up on some other release somewhere. I probably won't buy the game just to hear it, but someone mentioned previous iterations have had soundtrack releases, so hopefully something will be available to us non-gamers. Does anyone else hope once they get into the studio, a wave of inspiration comes over them and we don't have to wait until 2011 for a new record?

Transatlantic tour - I am all over that. I am guessing, given they are making this a true transatlantic tour, I won't be lucky enough to get a show in DC like I did when they toured for the debut record, so road trip plans will be made accordingly once the tour is set...
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 3:16 PM
Well. I guess I won't see them live next year since I don't think transatlantic will tour Texas.  :-(
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 3:21 PM
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DT doing a new instrumental?  Badass.  It being on the God of War III soundtrack?  Doubly badass.  This is almost as exciting as a new album announcement for me...  Can't wait to hear it!


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I can't believe this! DT will be on God of motherfucking War!!!! This was already a day 1 purchase for me but now it's a... day 0 purchase! Hell yeah!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 4:01 PM
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Great news inspires me...






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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 4:58 PM
Hey hey, South america is not a posibility, South America should be a MUST be!


We always wait and wait forever, and actually because we are your greatest fans (Chilean Fans) we should have a special gift or something, maybe the shattered fortress? or the 12 step saga from start to finish :) :) ?

Maybe bringing PoS down here  !!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 6:40 PM
I LOVE YOUR FORECAST!!!! :D
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 7:20 PM
Thanks for the update, Mike.
I hope your one-off shows include ones in Japan!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 7:23 PM
The silver lining in this cloud is hopefully solo projects from not just MP, but JLB, and JP doing follow-up albums!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 7:26 PM
im definatley seing transatlantic in the UK and will be buying god of war3 for the soundtrack lol. Thanks for everything mike, your the best! No one comes close to your dedication
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 7:45 PM
This will be the first DT tour I have missed since SFAM.  And only the second tour I've missed in DT history.  


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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 9:27 PM
WOW! That is one voluminous update,  MP... as much as I would love to see DT  somewhere in NA again next year I think personally that it is terrific that the band has decided to grab some quality family time next year. With your mattresses now a lot fatter from the success you have enjoyed  [forgive me for working in the Hendrix quote] YOU ALL DEFINITELY DESERVE A GOOD BREAK! And I am guessing that you just might be back in studio sometime in the fall... YIPPEE!!!   
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 11:48 PM
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In addition to the Transatlantic tour, I also have several other exciting possibilities up my sleeve for 2010....so time will tell what pans out and become realities....
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Fingers crossed for the long awaited Portnoy/Akerfeldt/Wilson project...


Honestly...I wouldn't hold my breath on that.  To my outside knowledge, Opeth's plan is to tour for the remainder of '09 and then write/record the next album, so I can't see Akerfeldt having much time for a side project (unless, of course, Opeth takes a break after the tour).
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:14 AM
Happy for DT and the exposure this might give them and can't blame them for this decision.  That said, I'm definitely bummed out about no US tour in 2010.  Although I saw them twice on the PN09 tour, I was looking forward to seeing them play on their own tour when they could play a bit longer than an hour and a half like on PN09.  Oh well....
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:14 AM
As it has already been mentioned in this thread, I just hope everything is OK.  Someone said they got a bad vibe from this post and I felt the same way.  AdRock mentioned "dissention in the ranks", and thats what came to my mind after reading this.  But they all say in every interview they do that their interpersonal relationships are better than ever, so I doubt that actually is it, but it still makes you wonder.  I'm sure it has to do with the economy on top of the obvious family thing.

It also makes me wonder if and what any of this has to do with BC&SL...I mean the album is only FIVE months old...that's pretty brand-spanking new in terms of albums.  To only do about 9 months of tour support on it seems like they are kinda giving up on the record.  Do they not like the new record?  Granted, MP didn't say that DT WON'T be recording throughout 2K10, but it seems highly unlikely that they are gonna do an about-face and start writing a new album already.

I will disagree with previous posts though - DT has taken "time off" recently.  They took summer breaks after both the Octavarium and Chaos in Motion Tours.  I'm not saying that thats enough time off and they owe it to anyone to always be on the road or making a new album, just an observation.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:37 AM
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we, southERN americans = always the last ones, if not, the forgotten ones... :...


ps: yes, i'm aware that it's not the band's fault..


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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:56 AM
The simple reality is that the tour is not happening because of the financial situation. I've spoken to MP, JR and JLB about it and basically it comes down to this.

In this situation bands have 2 options:
1. Tour yourselves into the ground because lots of dates is the only way to make money, playing smaller and smaller venues to fewer and fewer people.
2. Don't.

As it turns out, PN09 was probably not a good idea for the current climate. Live music is one of the first things to suffer, tours are being cancelled all over the place (especially in the USA) and people had to make the decision to pay out equivalent money for, in some cases, half the amount of DT that they were used to. DT were worried about the turn out in the States, they noticed from stage that many of the 'cheap, far away seats' were full when the 'expensive, close seats' weren't. They know that if they went out for a headlining tour or 'evening with' they would do really well, but it's not just up to them ultimately and they had to figure out if it was possible.

All round the world promoters are getting very nervous. In Europe, DT 'stayed about level' but because they didn't go UP promoters were getting jittery and I guess the States could only be worse (where things did go down a little, most likely because people thought they could choose between PN09 OR a headlining show in 2010 and so they chose to ‘wait’).

One of the things that the promoters are worried about is 'over saturation' and they do not want people coming back who've 'only just been through' apparently. They worry that if X amount of people turned out to leg A, then fewer will turn up to leg B.

Now, we all know that the reality of this is that that's not the case for DT. MORE people probably would have turned out for leg B had they got the chance. But we ALSO know that DT don't have a good understanding from the side of the promoters anyway (just ask Florida or wherever). Now imagine how nervous promoters are going to be thinking!

Finally, I will say that to have stayed roughly level, or slipped a little due to the bill, in the current climate (where other bands' entire tours are being cancelled due to poor ticket sales) is quite an achievement. DT know this and they do not want to appear to go backwards, they want to keep going forward, improving the production, the lights, the video and playing bigger venues and shows. And I think that will be achievable once the economy settles down a bit.

Before you think that as a European I don’t understand how you feel, you should know that I'm gutted too, especially as we had planned a big trip to the States in the spring and I wanted to hit my 40th DT show. But after speaking to the guys about all this at the end of the first leg of the European tour, it was clear that this probably was coming.

I'm going to keep myself warm with the promise of a Transatlantic tour in the spring and look forward to James's new album in the meantime...

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:30 AM
Well thanks Littlekezza... I think you've summed it up perfectly there.

We are gonna get a TransAtlantic tour, new DT song from the GOW III soundtrack, new JLB solo album/maybe tour, maybe a new JP album... bet your life Jordan won't be sitting still in 2010 and Mike has about a zillion ideas for 2010/2011/2012. (live DT album ''12 step suite'', sideprojects, ytsejam releases, new DT album... etc)

We should not complain I think.






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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:27 AM
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Well thanks Littlekezza... I think you've summed it up perfectly there.

We are gonna get a TransAtlantic tour, new DT song from the GOW III soundtrack, new JLB solo album/maybe tour, maybe a new JP album... bet your life Jordan won't be sitting still in 2010 and Mike has about a zillion ideas for 2010/2011/2012. (live DT album ''12 step suite'', sideprojects, ytsejam releases, new DT album... etc)

We should not complain I think.




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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:55 AM
Hoping for the Portnoy/Akerfeldt/Wilson project as well, but I think that these guys need a full 18-24 months off from DT just to recharge and do something different for a while. Hopefully that happens, because (I think) it would be best for the band long term...

And thanks for the update MP. Always good to hear info straight from the source!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:08 PM
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Thanks for posting. You care enough to keep in touch & let the fans know what the band & your plans are unlike so many others... Much appreciated.


I agree.
 
I hope Transatlantic will play near me! Otherwise I will travel for a concert!
 
I am looking forward to the instrumental track
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:07 PM
Hey MP any chance for a south american show with Transatlantic. maybe BUENOS AIRES?!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:58 PM
I hope Transatlantic come to Chitown!!  Bummer about no DT tour in the spring in NA, but oh well.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:12 PM
thanks for your input LK...I knew it had to do with the financial situation of the band.
Could we seen Progressive Nation format dropped on the next tours? To be honest, I'd rather see DT as a headliner with another band, than the whole "prog festival stravaganza" where they just play for 90 Mins.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:34 PM
I'm fine with this change of plans, as long as I get to see Transatlantic live. If they don't come to Toronto or something, then I'll be... unhappy.

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:43 PM
Hopefully (although unlikely) well see some Transatlantic action in Western Canada!!

Please? *bats eyelashes*
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:49 AM
Awesome. Myung will finally have time to get his polka solo project off the ground! :p

As for the news, I'm really looking forward to that GoW3 track. Come on JP, use a 7 string! 8D
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Monday, November 16, 2009 3:28 AM
Very insightful post from Kerry

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Monday, November 16, 2009 12:06 PM
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Well thanks Littlekezza... I think you've summed it up perfectly there.

We are gonna get a TransAtlantic tour, new DT song from the GOW III soundtrack, new JLB solo album/maybe tour, maybe a new JP album... bet your life Jordan won't be sitting still in 2010 and Mike has about a zillion ideas for 2010/2011/2012. (live DT album ''12 step suite'', sideprojects, ytsejam releases, new DT album... etc)

We should not complain I think.




And I think you took it a step further.  There are not many bands out there that fill the void between tours and albums like DT does.  Live releases, official bootlegs, side projects, MP's videos and now things like video game soundtracks.  I hate to keep using Rush as an example again because I love them so much, but so often you get years in between tours and albums and absolutely nothing in between.  So as a DT fan, I consider myself lucky to have two shots at a live show in a tour.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Monday, November 16, 2009 8:25 PM
I'm a bit sad nobody has suggested a JR solo tour yet! I would LOVE the opportunity to see him out and about with a proper band playing some of his solo material and even maybe some of the covers off of The Road Home! A solo album would be awesome though =) and from JLB as well, JP if he feels he has enough creative flow for it since he has been very hands on in DT on the last two albums particularly. Interested to see what MP does especially since we all know Akerfeldt has a year off too!

And I kind of hope for some European dates in the summer but I won't be greedy, seen them three times this tour so I wouldn't complain if I didn't =)
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:42 AM
Wow that's amazing that your going to do a new song for God Of War 3!!!!

Defineatly buying that sound track!!!

Can't wait for next year!
  
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:49 AM
It maybe wishful thinking, but I'm surprised nobody thought of this earlier......

With DT not touring the US again, and Transatlantic hopefully hitting the road, is it too far out of the scope of imagination to think that maybe PN10 could be a smaller less expensive production with a different headliner.....Transatlantic?!?

Take a few smaller groups who are used to operating on a shoestring budget (ie econoline vans and a trailer, 1-2 person crew etc) book some smaller 500-1000 seat venues, maybe only do 15-20 dates, and the PN spirit lives on!



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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:03 AM
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It maybe wishful thinking, but I'm surprised nobody thought of this earlier......

With DT not touring the US again, and Transatlantic hopefully hitting the road, is it too far out of the scope of imagination to think that maybe PN10 could be a smaller less expensive production with a different headliner.....Transatlantic?!?

Take a few smaller groups who are used to operating on a shoestring budget (ie econoline vans and a trailer, 1-2 person crew etc) book some smaller 500-1000 seat venues, maybe only do 15-20 dates, and the PN spirit lives on!


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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:37 AM
I'm assuming the new song will be on the GOWIII metal sound track that comes with the $100 "ultimate edition"?

"Sony today announced the Ultimate Edition will arrive alongside the standard version of God of War III. In addition to the game and decorative Pandora's Box packaging, players of the Ultimate Edition will receive an art book and access to a wealth of downloadable content. Gamers will get a feature-length retrospective on the franchise, the trilogy soundtrack, and a selection of heavy metal tracks inspired by God of War."

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/godofwariii/news.html?sid=6238446&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1


If so, I'm definitely getting it. I love God of War games anyway but I was on the fence for any reason to get this edition.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:34 PM
DISCLAIMER:  Take a look at my location before you flame me.

I waited a bit to post in here, to give MP's news time to sink in.  Especially since I'm one of the ones who decided to wait for a true North American DT leg in 2010.  Guess I shouldn't have--I snoozed and I really lost.

I have to say that, while I'm happy that the guys seem to be setting themselves up for a lengthy break (well deserved, I may add) my reaction to this is the same as the day I read MP's post.  I am VERY disappointed, especially since I had no time available to take off work to go to any of the PN shows this summer.  That, and I really only would've gone for DT and ZPZ anyway.

It just leaves me with the feeling that, once again, Texas is getting borked in the ass due to the economy.  I know MP tried his best to put Texas dates (amongst other locations) on the PN North American leg and that it fell through.  Not that I don't appreciate the effort...

I'm just really disappointed, is all.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:48 PM

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DISCLAIMER:  Take a look at my location before you flame me.

I waited a bit to post in here, to give MP's news time to sink in.  Especially since I'm one of the ones who decided to wait for a true North American DT leg in 2010.  Guess I shouldn't have--I snoozed and I really lost.

I have to say that, while I'm happy that the guys seem to be setting themselves up for a lengthy break (well deserved, I may add) my reaction to this is the same as the day I read MP's post.  I am VERY disappointed, especially since I had no time available to take off work to go to any of the PN shows this summer.  That, and I really only would've gone for DT and ZPZ anyway.

It just leaves me with the feeling that, once again, Texas is getting borked in the ass due to the economy.  I know MP tried his best to put Texas dates (amongst other locations) on the PN North American leg and that it fell through.  Not that I don't appreciate the effort...

I'm just really disappointed, is all.

now you guys know how it feels 
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:49 AM
This is exactly why I thought DT needed to bring another 'name' band on the PN tour this year...drawing power
and tilting the promoters to give it a chance. PN in and of itself is a gallant effort to expose bands Mike digs
but the only decent draw is DT. I assume if the PN tour can continue in the future it would have to have another
big name along with DT. Time will tell...but right now it's hard to fill up a venue without some heavyweights on
the bill.
 
If PN is indeed done...then oh well, MP fulfilled a goal off the bucket list. Let's hope it continues but with some tweaks.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:54 PM
Meh. It's all little mistakes and successes. I wish people would stop talking about the MP, Akerfeldt and Wilson thing though. There's no way anything they do could match everybody's expectations! 

In terms of the economy - there's a little saying I know. "Quit while you're ahead". It's better DT did that instead of risking a big financial disaster.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:53 PM
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I wish people would stop talking about the MP, Akerfeldt and Wilson thing though.

 
Totally agreed but for a different reason. I COULD CARE LESS about this project. Just not something I'm "into" at all. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is.
 
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In terms of the economy - there's a little saying I know. "Quit while you're ahead". It's better DT did that instead of risking a big financial disaster.

 
I "personally" would have rathered seen DT do more "extensive" touring of the U.S. behind "BC&SL".
Yes, they would have had to do more shows and in many cases, some smaller theaters across the states (equating to smaller earnings), BUT, the exposure would have been worth it. There are so many places across the country that they could have played, as well as sticking in the major cities too. I TOTALLY get the whole idea of "we don't want to have to play 50 shows to make what we'd make doing 25" BUT, isn't that the way it's always been done for non mainstream acts? I know DT is at a level where they can pick and choose, and that's great, but what's so wrong about marketing yourselves? I just think, especially with the #6 billboard entry, and now the absolute GREAT "Wither" video, they may have missed an opportunity here.


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