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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:14 PM
HEY MIKE are coming to Turkey in 2010? I hope so please dont keep us waiting for another 2 years look @ my avatar I have a photo with you from the 2009 concert it was absolutely insane...
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:14 PM
fuck...no AA saga live :(

hopefully next time, and im sure the instrumental will kick ass...and i guess less touring could possibly mean the next album would come out sooner than later. OPTIMISM
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:33 PM
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JLB should open up for Transatlantic.
That would be fucking sick
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:46 PM
Hey Mike, thanks for the update. You always treat die-hard fans like me the best. If I get to see Transatlantic live in concert somewhere, I'll be stoked for sure.
 
Last night, I got to hang out a bit with Kris Myers (drummer for Umphrey's McGee) after the Toronto show. Kris was telling me you guys hunged out for a while after the Chicago PN gig. He said to me what amazing respect he has for you as an musician and one of the coolest Dudes around anywhere. Plus maybe down the road in a few years that you'll be keeping Umphrey's McGee in mind for a spot on an future PN or opening act. (Yes, there are a ton of bands on Mike radar for possible openers). I'm just exicted as hell you have them in mind.
 
Regarding no NA tour for 2010? I'll live with it, I'm just glad I got to see and meet you guys already this past summer and have been to 9 DT shows in my lifetime. Memories that will last forever.
 
Enjoy the well deserved time off, and looking forward to more suprises and new creative projects on the horizon.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:18 PM
That soundtrack is gonna be epic as hell!
Can't wait to listen to this! HOLY SHIZZLE I'M EXCITED !!!!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:25 PM
A little time off can't be a bad thing.  Maybe the guys should play God of War II to inspire them for the soundtrack.  And maybe the extra time off will give some of the guys a little time to think about the next album.  BC&SL was great, but the time spent not on the road should give them the extra time needed to craft their next conceptual master piece.  I'm expecting another 8va or Scenes or SDOIT next time! ;)
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:45 PM
well... maybe we'll get an evening with tour for 2011 in return for no US dates in 2010?
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:08 PM
Since the Phoenix area has been overlooked for the last 2  Prog Nation tours I would hope the next U.S. tour would include
Phoenix. We still love you guys here and are waiting for a show.
And I do realize Mike that you don't schedule the tour dates but maybe you can say something to the management.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:23 PM
Great move on the God of War instrumental Mike. Bringing the awesomeness that is DT's music to many gamers. God of War was already an instabuy for me... now I'll have to buy two! Can't wait!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:28 PM
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fuck...no AA saga live :(




theres always australia 


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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:39 PM
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pullmyfinger


Obviously, the economy, and the rather so-so attendance of the prog nation shows had a lot to do with this. BUT, it is what it is, and I guess it was bound to happen at some point. 


I don't know man, I think you're just too wild and crazy at DT shows, and they need a serious break from that


 
Actually, I've mellowed "GREATLY" at their shows the last couple of years (old age setting in and all). You should have been sitting next to me during the TOT & Octavarium tours!


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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:05 PM
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As 2009 is finally winding down and no DT plans have been made public yet for 2010, I'd like to just give a quick rundown of what we have planned to prevent any rumors or speculation that I'm starting to see brew........I'm afraid I have some disappointing news for our North American fans: after serious discussion within the band and evaluations with our manager and agent, we have decided against doing another US run in spring as we had initially planned...for many reasons, it just is not going to work out as we had originally hoped.
 

 
As Dream Theater are just too damned important in my life (I know....) I've been thinking about this allot today. First, once again MP shows the true spirit and respect he has for us fans, by filling us in on the details. Once again, WE THANK YOU for your candor and honesty. YOU ARE TRULY "THE MAN"
 
Yes, I am completely disheartened by the fact that their will be no 2010 BC&SL 2nd North American leg by DT. BUT, I know it's probably just as upsetting for the band. I do seriously believe the economy has caused many promoters to be even more "picky" than usual and to not take chances. The fact that the North American PNII shows wasn't exactly a "hot" ticket, has much to do with it. I can only wonder though if the PN tour has kind of backfired a bit. Many DT fans (from what I've heard and read right here on this forum) weren't interested in the PNII shows for different reasons. Many fans feel "cheated" (for lack of a better word) when time is taken away from DT on stage. I'm the type of fan that will go to any DT show I can get to, simply to see them perform (whether for a 3 hour show, a 90 minute show or even as a special guest). That's just me. Doesn't make me better than the next, just different.
Personally, out of the 2 PN North American tours, the only band I really came away like of the openers was Bigelf & 3 (STS was cool, but they only "interested" me, BIGELF I have actually become a BIG fan of). I didn't like ZPZ on this tour, nor BTB&M or Opeth from PN I.
BUT, I understand what MP was doing and it's all good. I just have a feeling though that attendance would have been MUCH better if it was just a DT tour (with maybe 1 special guest).
I also think the tour routing has been an issue. I know the band doesn't want to be on the road for more than 4-5 weeks at a time, and that is all good. I aplaud them all as family men. MAJOR KUDOS! But, I would suggest a better plan for North American touring. Too many cities get bypassed every year and that has to hurt the fanbase. Why not do 2 legs in North America but on the same tour cycle. For example, how about 20-25 dates from the west coast to the midwest, take a 2-3 week break, and then return for a 20-25 date Southeast-Northeast (and Canada) tour. This way, the band gets about 40-50 US shows in, and hits all the areas they want. This would also eliminate the need for a 2nd "leg" months later. Just thinking here.....

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:21 PM
Definitely bit of a punch to the gut on never coming to Texas.  I understand sometimes these things just don't work out, but it still sucks.  Oh well.  BC&SL is still amazing, as is the new TA, so hopefully those hold me over till I can see them again (if ever...just kidding).
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:58 PM
Thanks for the update. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'm not all that upset about it. 

This probably opens up a bigger window for Transatlantic in Europe and gives the other guys a well deserved break. I'm sure Mike will get a well deserved break too, but...well... you know.

I'm sure we'll be in for quite a surprise at some point, maybe that's why I'm not all that upset about.
Or maybe it's because I'll see Transatlantic for the first time in 11 years.

First four-song set to clock in at more than two and a half hours?
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:13 PM
i was gonna se PN09, but it was on the same day as my cousins wedding so i couldnt go. so i was hoping for a 2010 detroit show...looks like that not happenin i was pumped to witness the count of tuscany :'(   o well they do enough anyways. ill catch em next time
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:53 PM
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Actually, think I will start to be greedy

Likely location of Summer festivals = Europe

One off shows = also Europe

He he, well the glass is half full


Happy for you.   
Unfortunately, the glass isn't half full or half empty...the glass is non-existent here in Cleveland.   I won't lie.  I am very disappointed. DT has NEVER passed us by in the last 20+ years. But, it is what it is for whatever reason. I have to be understanding.
 I don't expect to see TA stopping here, either..... but, that would be phenomenal if it did occur!    Looking forward to 2011....

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:05 PM
That's disappointing, but certainly understandable.  These guys have little kids at home that they're missing growing up.  In my heart of hearts I believed there was a chance for a short US second-leg tour in the "Evening With" format.  The dream was 2 nights in NYC, 2 in Boston and maybe a few other select cities (like the LTE tour).  It would have been a great opportunity for the fans (like me) who went to all of the PN shows, but were only there to see an abbreviated DT, praying for a killer setlist.
Maybe some new studio LTE in 2010????
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:09 PM
I have this sort of uneasy feeling in my gut. I'm not going to post a discertation of my feelings but something just
doesn't feel right about this. Yeah I'm probably wrong but still, ever since I read Mike's post it's been gnawing at me.
BC&SL was DT's highest charting album worldwide...ever. That's all I'm sayin'...
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:46 PM

Yeah - you have the knack of packing a quart load of woop ass into a pint glass - always more than any other individual on the planet and we are grateful for that.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:48 PM
I'm actually quite pissed and sad. I look forward to seeing DT multiple times during their World tours. I hope MP/DT make it up to us with "Evening with" shows for the next album. Until then...

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:49 PM
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I had a feeling they'd record a separate song for an EP or something, but I had no idea it'd be for a videogame.  Very badass.  Transatlantic probably wouldn't come to Florida, but I wish it would.   :(  No DT tour kinda sucks, but I'd be happy if that means some sexy side projects from all the members.  :)


Yeah, a Florida date would be fantastic, but I don't think the prog audience here is that big (most of the DT fans here are the more metal types).
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:53 PM
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Portnoy


Essentially, this means the BC&SL World Tour will conclude with South America (if it indeed happens)


Ok, now I'm really worried.


Same here

Oh Please, Mike. You guys have to come to South America
 
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:55 PM
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...I also think the tour routing has been an issue. I know the band doesn't want to be on the road for more than 4-5 weeks at a time, and that is all good. I aplaud them all as family men. MAJOR KUDOS! But, I would suggest a better plan for North American touring. Too many cities get bypassed every year and that has to hurt the fanbase. Why not do 2 legs in North America but on the same tour cycle. For example, how about 20-25 dates from the west coast to the midwest, take a 2-3 week break, and then return for a 20-25 date Southeast-Northeast (and Canada) tour. This way, the band gets about 40-50 US shows in, and hits all the areas they want. This would also eliminate the need for a 2nd "leg" months later. Just thinking here.....

 
Exactly.
 
I think of and could appreciate how Rush for example for Power Windows in 1985 did this type of saturation tour bombing of the northeast:
 
December 4, 1985        Cumberland County Civic Center. Portland, Maine 
December 5, 1985        Civic Center. Providence, Rhode Island (Steve Morse)
December 7, 1985        New Haven Coliseum. New Haven, Connecticut (Steve Morse)
December 8, 1985        Civic Center. Hartford, Connecticut (Steve Morse)
December 10, 1985       War Memorial. Rochester, New York (Steve Morse)
December 12, 1985       The Centrum. Worcester, Massachusetts (Steve Morse)
December 13, 1985       The Centrum. Worcester, Massachusetts (Steve Morse)
December 15, 1985       Richmond Coliseum. Richmond, Virginia (Steve Morse)
December 16, 1985       Capital Centre. Largo, Maryland (Steve Morse)
December 18, 1985       Civic Arena. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
December 19, 1985       Richfield Coliseum. Richfield, Ohio
I don't want to come off as sounding negative.  The tours from 2004-present seem to follow the same familiar blueprint and flow through the U.S./Canada.  Why am I fan of a lot of bands?  Because thay came through my shitty little town of Utica (or within 2 hours of) when  I was young whether I saw them live or not,  I became aware of them.  Lots of forgotten towns with music fans in this country with people who want to rock out, but not at the expense of driving 4 hours for a show and paying a premium price for a ticket i.e. $65-$100 to a show for a band relatively unfamiliar to them.  Hopefully DT hasn't cornered themselves in playing in the most lucrative cities, while the other mid-size cities have people who can't get hooked to the music because the band doesn't come nearby.  Just thinking outloud.

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:29 PM
What's so bad about no second leg?  They tour so much already.  If you really can't wait like 2 measly years until the next tour watch one of the 50 dvds they've released.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:32 PM
I'm a little bummed that I won't see any live DT in 2010, but I have been pretty lucky.  I've seen them 9 times, and at least one time every year since 2003, and the last 2 years right here in Albany.  Being a Dad like all the members of DT, I can appreciate their desire to spend time with their families. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a TA date close by.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:55 PM
So fucking glad I made it to the LAS VEGAS show!

It was awesome
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 12:29 AM
AMAZING! thank's Mike for sharing this information, can't wait for the instrumental song for god of war!!!the excellent game now with a fantastic music. The south american tour really is the best thing that could happen in 2010 now that Metallica is coming to my country that year too, it will be incredible to see them both DT and Metallica in the same year.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 2:35 AM
When I first read that you'd be heading back into the studio in january I was holy shit a new album already!!!???!!!! but an instrumental for God of War should be almost equally awesome.  That songs gonna slay. Also looking forward to seeing transatlantic.

Also I know this showed happen before 2010 but when is the Wither video coming out?
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 4:47 AM
Duke

 
Exactly.
 
I think of and could appreciate how Rush for example for Power Windows in 1985 did this type of saturation tour bombing of the northeast:
 
December 4, 1985        Cumberland County Civic Center. Portland, Maine 
December 5, 1985        Civic Center. Providence, Rhode Island (Steve Morse)
December 7, 1985        New Haven Coliseum. New Haven, Connecticut (Steve Morse)
December 8, 1985        Civic Center. Hartford, Connecticut (Steve Morse)
December 10, 1985       War Memorial. Rochester, New York (Steve Morse)
December 12, 1985       The Centrum. Worcester, Massachusetts (Steve Morse)
December 13, 1985       The Centrum. Worcester, Massachusetts (Steve Morse)
December 15, 1985       Richmond Coliseum. Richmond, Virginia (Steve Morse)
December 16, 1985       Capital Centre. Largo, Maryland (Steve Morse)
December 18, 1985       Civic Arena. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
December 19, 1985       Richfield Coliseum. Richfield, Ohio
I don't want to come off as sounding negative.  The tours from 2004-present seem to follow the same familiar blueprint and flow through the U.S./Canada.  Why am I fan of a lot of bands?  Because thay came through my shitty little town of Utica (or within 2 hours of) when  I was young whether I saw them live or not,  I became aware of them.  Lots of forgotten towns with music fans in this country with people who want to rock out, but not at the expense of driving 4 hours for a show and paying a premium price for a ticket i.e. $65-$100 to a show for a band relatively unfamiliar to them.  Hopefully DT hasn't cornered themselves in playing in the most lucrative cities, while the other mid-size cities have people who can't get hooked to the music because the band doesn't come nearby.  Just thinking outloud.

You can't possible compare DT tours with tours so many years ago and with other bands. That's not fair. Times have changed. Besides it's NOT (only) the band choice where, when or how they tour...

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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 6:55 AM
TA TOUR!!! hurrah... I'll be there... just come to Holland!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 AM
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 9:19 AM
Great news inspires me...




 
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 9:36 AM
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You can't possible compare DT tours with tours so many years ago and with other bands. That's not fair. Times have changed. Besides it's NOT (only) the band choice where, when or how they tour...

 
I can, and i did.    History is an excellent template for measuring choices and future outcomes.  Any band can choose to tour every city of any country.  The economics obviously come into play i.e. how much gear they haul along, how many people on the road are mangement and roadies and what that all costs (overhead), how nice their tour bus is, how expensive a hotel is they stay in, how much of a stage show they wish to put on or not put on.  These guys have specific tastes that require as specific budget.  It could be said they tour like Rockefellers.  Its all in point of view.  Many bands tour on a threadbare budget.
 
At the end of the day a band will choose to tour or not tour based on a minimum dollar they will accept to get on stage.  They control more variables than you want to believe.  My points of view may not be the most obsequios, but I am certain they have the same measure of validity as anyone elses.


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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 9:53 AM
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Actually, think I will start to be greedy

Likely location of Summer festivals = Europe

One off shows = also Europe

He he, well the glass is half full


Happy for you.   
Unfortunately, the glass isn't half full or half empty...the glass is non-existent here in Cleveland.   I won't lie.  I am very disappointed. DT has NEVER passed us by in the last 20+ years. But, it is what it is for whatever reason. I have to be understanding.
I don't expect to see TA stopping here, either..... but, that would be phenomenal if it did occur!    Looking forward to 2011....


I am also in Cleveland and couldn't have said it better myself. Of course, I really would like to see them again myself, but I'll wait until whenever, but it's everyone else that I have exposed to DT in the last couple years and never have witnessed them live, who I feel bad for.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 11:13 AM
It's good that DT are taking some time off. It's the first time since 2006 since they've really done so!
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 11:40 AM
If I wasn't married with four kids, I might give serious consideration to moving to the Northeast part of the country, maybe around Boston. Living in the KC area, there's so many bands/shows I'll never have the chance to see. If I ever see that Spock's Beard is playing the Uptown, I'll probably have a coronary. I've traveled to New York and Chicago for a couple of shows, but can't afford to do that anymore.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 11:54 AM
^^Damn you're married to 4 kids ?? OMFG ! ;-P
No seriously , just kidding , but for half a second I thought that LOL..

Anyways , didn't read the 4 pages , so pardon me if someone wrote this :
-The GOW is gonna be instrumental ?
That sucks a little for James , I mean , since he wasn't that involved with BCASL ..At least he should do some kinds of ..humming ? Y'know like Geddy Lee in Eartshine or Limbo ? That'd be nice for him ..
-And did you guys are fans of GOW ?
I mean , in the leaked Facebook video , I saw MP had Rock band , so he probably have a 6th or 7th generation video game consoles , somaybe he played God of war ?
-As of JP , did he bought something else than his Sega Saturn ? (LOL)
-And , if there's not U.S tour , does this mean that there's no Canada too ?
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 12:01 PM
Maybe MP is still thinking about doing the thrash metal project he talked about a while ago. I just watched the Turtlehead clip of them doing Overkill again from Talking Metal. I would love to see something with him, Blitz and Bello. Not sure who would be on guitar but I think it would fookin' rock.
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Re:MP's forecast for 2010 - Friday, November 13, 2009 1:11 PM
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Many DT fans (from what I've heard and read right here on this forum) weren't interested in the PNII shows for different reasons. Many fans feel "cheated" (for lack of a better word) when time is taken away from DT on stage. I'm the type of fan that will go to any DT show I can get to, simply to see them perform (whether for a 3 hour show, a 90 minute show or even as a special guest). That's just me. Doesn't make me better than the next, just different.

...

I also think the tour routing has been an issue. I know the band doesn't want to be on the road for more than 4-5 weeks at a time, and that is all good. I aplaud them all as family men. MAJOR KUDOS! But, I would suggest a better plan for North American touring. Too many cities get bypassed every year and that has to hurt the fanbase. Why not do 2 legs in North America but on the same tour cycle. For example, how about 20-25 dates from the west coast to the midwest, take a 2-3 week break, and then return for a 20-25 date Southeast-Northeast (and Canada) tour. This way, the band gets about 40-50 US shows in, and hits all the areas they want. This would also eliminate the need for a 2nd "leg" months later. Just thinking here.....



Best statement on this topic. (Although I personally can not complain about DT's tour presence here in Europe ;-P) I can confirm that many "fans" prefer DT headlining shows (with one support act). You should not take a poll in this forum about this topic (PN/Evening With...) too serious, because the majority of the concert visitors is not on this board. Most of them do not even read here, they just listen to DT CDs and occassionally want to go to a DT concert. Some of the PN visitors even refused to see the first two bands... but that's a little bit too ignorant...

pullmyfinger's 2nd idea here about the tour routing in NA sounds absolutely reasonable and will hopefully be read by MP.

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About a new DT album: I think DT should not hurry into anything. So after this tour, they all should take a rest as long as they can. I am hoping for each member to develop some new ideas on his own until they meet again...
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