Dream Theater Book - Lifting Shadows - Ordering And Book Details

When does pre-order end?

Rich Wilson

As some of you know, I was ill when the first edition came out, so never really got the thrill of really celebrating that release.

 

Don't think I knew that.  Glad things are better. 

There's an update from the publishers (ie what to do if you haven't got your discount code) at:
http://liftingshadows.com/faq/update-your-email-address/

FlashCE


When does pre-order end?

 
I'm not sure on that. I guess it will run for a few weeks. Once I know the answer, I'll let you all know.

Wouldn't it just run till 2000 pre-orders are taken?

Ink


Wouldn't it just run till 2000 pre-orders are taken?

What about the classic edition ;) How many of those are going to be printed?

Also. If I understand this correctly those who have the 25% off also get another 15% off if you pre-order? Or is it 25% off all in all or how is it?

Ink


Wouldn't it just run till 2000 pre-orders are taken?

The ordering process won't really stop. I guess it is just the pre-order discount that will end at some point (though the discounts only apply to the "Classic" edition and not the "Limited Edition"). So at the moment I'm not sure when the pre-order discount will stop.
 

No, the maximum discount is 25%.

As for how many copies of the "Classic Edition" are going to be printed? I don't know. I guess it depends on the number of pre-orders. Probably no more than 6000, but I am guess there!

There's also a nifty update over at www.dreamtheaterbook.com which includes a few new extracts from the second edition.

Cool! Thanks for clearing that up Rich. I'm still on the fence on which one to order hehe.

uhn, but again, no brazilian shipping...
but if its an edition that will be for sale 'forever' i can buy it when some one is in usa, or europe...

Keys In Motion

Ordering the book when I get money next week :)

Me too, but I already have the money... Oh wait, no, I can't buy the book, because they don't want to sell the book to my country. This is clearly a step back on a time you can buy any kind of stuff from every part of the world with no problems at all.

There's ways to deal with scammers on the internet but you just choose the easiest path: stop shipping to EVERYONE on a country. Apparently, it doesn't matter if this is just a way to screw potential buyers, as long it is a easy way to deal with the problem.

And then you ask yourself why do people go after downloading some horribly scanned PDF on the web... Well, when piracy does a better job distributing stuff illegally something is definitely wrong and I can't blame the one who download it, only the company that doesn't know what their customer wants.

Even worse than that, it opens space to bootleg copies to appear in the market, like all those MP and YtseJam Records CDs and DVDs that weren't shipping to Brasil. Currently it is possible to buy bootlegs of these products even on big stores. So there is someone who's (illegally) profiting just because of a bad marketing decision.

If you think saying to us to send it to someone and then redirect the book for our house is good enough then you really should think again.

Oh, and by the way, suggesting all your customers on a country are scammers is not a good thing to do and makes me not want to support the book. Even though I currently can do nothing to support it, I will certainly talk to my friends to think again if they are willing to go through all the hassle of sending the book to someone and then sending it again to them.

Dan Hibiki

Keys In Motion

Ordering the book when I get money next week :)

Me too, but I already have the money... Oh wait, no, I can't buy the book, because they don't want to sell the book to my country. This is clearly a step back on a time you can buy any kind of stuff from every part of the world with no problems at all.

There's ways to deal with scammers on the internet but you just choose the easiest path: stop shipping to EVERYONE on a country. Apparently, it doesn't matter if this is just a way to screw potential buyers, as long it is a easy way to deal with the problem.

And then you ask yourself why do people go after downloading some horribly scanned PDF on the web... Well, when piracy does a better job distributing stuff illegally something is definitely wrong and I can't blame the one who download it, only the company that doesn't know what their customer wants.

Even worse than that, it opens space to bootleg copies to appear in the market, like all those MP and YtseJam Records CDs and DVDs that weren't shipping to Brasil. Currently it is possible to buy bootlegs of these products even on big stores. So there is someone who's (illegally) profiting just because of a bad marketing decision.

If you think saying to us to send it to someone and then redirect the book for our house is good enough then you really should think again.

Oh, and by the way, suggesting all your customers on a country are scammers is not a good thing to do and makes me not want to support the book. Even though I currently can do nothing to support it, I will certainly talk to my friends to think again if they are willing to go through all the hassle of sending the book to someone and then sending it again to them.

Dan Hibiki


Oh, and by the way, suggesting all your customers on a country are scammers is not a good thing to do and makes me not want to support the book. Even though I currently can do nothing to support it, I will certainly talk to my friends to think again if they are willing to go through all the hassle of sending the book to someone and then sending it again to them.

A) He never suggested everyone in the country are scammers

B) This is a relatively small release and unfortunately sometimes they have to make sacrifices to make the book available at all.

I'm not trying to criticize your country.  There are great things about your country and I know the US has more than our fair share of problems, but this is really a problem your government needs to tackle not one man or one small publishing company. 

Also, get a P.O. box located in the States. I bet there are specialized companies in Brazil that can provide that service. My country too suffers from poor postal service, so that's the best available answer.

Will this be the new cover?

Dan Hibiki

Keys In Motion

Ordering the book when I get money next week :)

Me too, but I already have the money... Oh wait, no, I can't buy the book, because they don't want to sell the book to my country. This is clearly a step back on a time you can buy any kind of stuff from every part of the world with no problems at all.

There's ways to deal with scammers on the internet but you just choose the easiest path: stop shipping to EVERYONE on a country. Apparently, it doesn't matter if this is just a way to screw potential buyers, as long it is a easy way to deal with the problem.

And then you ask yourself why do people go after downloading some horribly scanned PDF on the web... Well, when piracy does a better job distributing stuff illegally something is definitely wrong and I can't blame the one who download it, only the company that doesn't know what their customer wants.

Even worse than that, it opens space to bootleg copies to appear in the market, like all those MP and YtseJam Records CDs and DVDs that weren't shipping to Brasil. Currently it is possible to buy bootlegs of these products even on big stores. So there is someone who's (illegally) profiting just because of a bad marketing decision.

If you think saying to us to send it to someone and then redirect the book for our house is good enough then you really should think again.

Oh, and by the way, suggesting all your customers on a country are scammers is not a good thing to do and makes me not want to support the book. Even though I currently can do nothing to support it, I will certainly talk to my friends to think again if they are willing to go through all the hassle of sending the book to someone and then sending it again to them.

Me too, but I already have the money... Oh wait, no, I can't buy the book, because they don't want to sell the book to my country. This is clearly a step back on a time you can buy any kind of stuff from every part of the world with no problems at all. There's ways to deal with scammers on the internet but you just choose the easiest path: stop shipping to EVERYONE on a country. Apparently, it doesn't matter if this is just a way to screw potential buyers, as long it is a easy way to deal with the problem. And then you ask yourself why do people go after downloading some horribly scanned PDF on the web... Well, when piracy does a better job distributing stuff illegally something is definitely wrong and I can't blame the one who download it, only the company that doesn't know what their customer wants. Even worse than that, it opens space to bootleg copies to appear in the market, like all those MP and YtseJam Records CDs and DVDs that weren't shipping to Brasil. Currently it is possible to buy bootlegs of these products even on big stores. So there is someone who's (illegally) profiting just because of a bad marketing decision. If you think saying to us to send it to someone and then redirect the book for our house is good enough then you really should think again. Oh, and by the way, suggesting all your customers on a country are scammers is not a good thing to do and makes me not want to support the book. Even though I currently can do nothing to support it, I will certainly talk to my friends to think again if they are willing to go through all the hassle of sending the book to someone and then sending it again to them.

 
OK. I can see that there are a lot of people in Brazil who are unhappy that they can't buy the book, and we have taken this on board. So we are trying to find a way that we can get the book safely down to you in Brazil. Obviously the issue is with the postal service - there are certainly no problems with the fans. And "scammers" isn't an issue either - it's purely the fact that books wouldn'tget delivered.
 
So one potential solution would be to arrange for a courier, signed for service which would guarentee delivery for you. There would of course be an increased postal cost (I don't know how much that would be as yet).
 
Would this be something that would be acceptable to Brazilian DT Fans (and for those fans who live in other countries currently not listed - it's not just Brazil).
 
Please feel free to post here or contact me directly at rich@dreamtheaterbook.com
 

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Dutch Beard


Will this be the new cover?

Nope - the publishers are still working on cover designs . . .

I apologize if this has been discussed already (scanned all of Rich's responses and have not yet seen it asked...) but this 40% extra material you are talking about:  is it at the very end of the book?

Meaning, since I already purchased and read the original release, can I simply pick up from where it left off?  Or is the extra material here and there within the different chapters?

Rich Wilson

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Dutch Beard


Will this be the new cover?

Nope - the publishers are still working on cover designs . . .

And that is a good thing because that mock-up looks awful (apologies if it was made by someone on the forum...)

Ytsejuhrummer


I apologize if this has been discussed already (scanned all of Rich's responses and have not yet seen it asked...) but this 40% extra material you are talking about:  is it at the very end of the book?

Meaning, since I already purchased and read the original release, can I simply pick up from where it left off?  Or is the extra material here and there within the different chapters?

 
Well, it depends which version of the book you've got. Assuming you have the original two book set, then it will be more than 40% extra (as the SC sessions and tour were updated for the "paperback" version the band sold on tour)
The main bulk of the new text is at the end - covering BC&SL as well as all the side projects. But there are new sections throughout - such as interviews with those I was unable to track down for the first editon - eg Steve Sinclair, Robert Mason, John Hendricks etc. Plus there's a new introduction and ending. So it's pretty much a major overhaul of a lot of the text. Hope this helps :-)


 

Ytsejuhrummer

Rich Wilson

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Dutch Beard


Will this be the new cover?

Nope - the publishers are still working on cover designs . . .

And that is a good thing because that mock-up looks awful (apologies if it was made by someone on the forum...)

It's just a banner for use on various sites - there are more at www.dreamtheaterbook.com

 

Rich Wilson

Ytsejuhrummer


I apologize if this has been discussed already (scanned all of Rich's responses and have not yet seen it asked...) but this 40% extra material you are talking about:  is it at the very end of the book?

Meaning, since I already purchased and read the original release, can I simply pick up from where it left off?  Or is the extra material here and there within the different chapters?

 
Well, it depends which version of the book you've got. Assuming you have the original two book set, then it will be more than 40% extra (as the SC sessions and tour were updated for the "paperback" version the band sold on tour)
The main bulk of the new text is at the end - covering BC&SL as well as all the side projects. But there are new sections throughout - such as interviews with those I was unable to track down for the first editon - eg Steve Sinclair, Robert Mason, John Hendricks etc. Plus there's a new introduction and ending. So it's pretty much a major overhaul of a lot of the text. Hope this helps :-)


 

Yes...the original 2-book set.  Thanks for the info. 

This has probably been asked but is there a tentative release date? I already orderd my copy but my friend wants to know when the pre-order ends.

Just saw your twitter today Rich about those banners and put a banner on the front page of my site http://www.trialoftears.net/ \m/

Re: cover. I think it'd be awesome to have cover like the first page of the site. With the exact same lettering/font and same pic. Would be awesome.

kaos2900


This has probably been asked but is there a tentative release date? I already orderd my copy but my friend wants to know when the pre-order ends.

 
I don't have an exact release date, but I would guess this would be the end of November. But it is very likely that the pre-order discount will be ending in the next couple of weeks - this is the 15% discount and not the 25% discount for those who bought the first edition which they probably won't be time limiting.
Hope that makes sense !


 

So should we ignore the FAQ on the book site saying early November and go with late November early December? I just want to know. So I can rest easier

Rich Wilson
OK. I can see that there are a lot of people in Brazil who are unhappy that they can't buy the book, and we have taken this on board. So we are trying to find a way that we can get the book safely down to you in Brazil. Obviously the issue is with the postal service - there are certainly no problems with the fans. And "scammers" isn't an issue either - it's purely the fact that books wouldn'tget delivered.
 
So one potential solution would be to arrange for a courier, signed for service which would guarentee delivery for you. There would of course be an increased postal cost (I don't know how much that would be as yet).
 
Would this be something that would be acceptable to Brazilian DT Fans (and for those fans who live in other countries currently not listed - it's not just Brazil).
 
Please feel free to post here or contact me directly at rich@dreamtheaterbook.com
 

I think it sounds good, hopefully it will not be extremely expensive.
Keep us informed!

Images and Memory


So should we ignore the FAQ on the book site saying early November and go with late November early December? I just want to know. So I can rest easier

I wasn't aware that was on the site - if it says early November then that will be right as they are the people producing it. I just wrote the thing!

Just wanted to throw my 2 cetns into the mix.

Rich - Read the extracts. Ordered the Limited Edition version. Looking forward to it. It's a shame that there are some here who think that youas the author have control over every aspect of the book.

Take heart - not everyone is a tosser. Honest!

For those of you who ordered the Classic edition and have the First Limited Edition coupon:

How much was it including shipping?

I have preordered the limited edition but I'm hesitant if I should just buy the Classic since it's some dough I could of saved....

it's 25 bucks to answer my own question..lol

now i have to decide whether to cancel my limited edition order and just stick with the classic, or get the classic as well...mm

Thanks for the response Rich! I'll tell my friend to order ASAP.

Thanks for all the support - it's appreciated.

I didnt order the first edition! but now I want it! is it a different book? or is the same with added stuff?

I am just wondering, but what is the "Two 8 page color plate section"

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Weymolith


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huh?

He's responding to my question.... or at least I think so