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    Jake67

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    Re: TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:42 PM (permalink)
    I haven't been a big fan of Neal's singing, but I just listed to The Whirlwind and I love it! Like others have mentioned, I do appreciate Neal's lyrics. I'm usually oblivious to lyrics since I'm most often listening to music when I'm working, but they stood out on this one and were hard to ignore.

    It normally takes me a few listens before I really know if I like an album. But I knew the first time through that this is a winner in my book.

    Guess I'm going to have to add the prior Transatlantic albums to my "buy" list and re-evaluate my prior feelings on Neal's singing.

     
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      Re: TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:07 PM (permalink)
      Awesome album! A definite favourite of 2009!

      Random observations about "For such a time": The main theme is the same as the very first theme of the very first suite of "Whirlwind" (the big track) and the flute (I know it's a syth) melody is almost identical to the one used in Flower Kings' "Vox Humana". I don't know if the latter is coincidence but it's a cool detail.
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        Re: TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:22 PM (permalink)
        I'm so impressed with this album, I love hearing Mike on a more fussion/jazz/pop/funky vibe, he totally owns it! and ofcourse I'm most impressed by the way he signs, "Set us free", Man I was so impressed I couldn't believe mike was singing on the chorus, it's fucking genius!
        I always wanted to hear Mike on a less "metal" way and see what he would do, and this album totally satisfied that wish I had, even now that I was kind of thinking " I love BC&SL but man, I kind of feel DT keeps reaching more and more the metal vibe to their music leaving behind all of thouse other elements that made DT so special and diferent from other Prog metal bands" ,
        you owned me Mike ;)

        Congratulations TA and especially Mike, awsome vibe and singing on this album!
         
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          Re: TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:22 AM (permalink)
          Jake67


          I haven't been a big fan of Neal's singing, but I just listed to The Whirlwind and I love it! Like others have mentioned, I do appreciate Neal's lyrics. I'm usually oblivious to lyrics since I'm most often listening to music when I'm working, but they stood out on this one and were hard to ignore.

          It normally takes me a few listens before I really know if I like an album. But I knew the first time through that this is a winner in my book.

          Guess I'm going to have to add the prior Transatlantic albums to my "buy" list and re-evaluate my prior feelings on Neal's singing.


          The previous two albums blow this one out of the water (IMHO)  RUN don't walk to get them.

           
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            Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 09, 2009 5:21 PM (permalink)
            Let me just say I love, Love, LOVE, LOVE this album!  My first Transatlantic purchase, and I am digging it majorly.  I will soon be buying the other Transatlantic albums.
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              Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 09, 2009 8:37 PM (permalink)
              I hate it when people say 'hey this song sounds like this song!' but.... anyone else hear Great Gates of Kiev in the first theme from the album?
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                Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:30 AM (permalink)
                I thought I recognised part of the Simpson's team somewhere....must be losing it!
                Some great ´new´ Dutch melodic/symphonic metalbands:
                 
                http://www.anewdawnband.com
                http://www.magionband.com
                 
                 
                 
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                  Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:02 AM (permalink)
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                  Let me just say I love, Love, LOVE, LOVE this album!  My first Transatlantic purchase, and I am digging it majorly.  I will soon be buying the other Transatlantic albums.


                  Oh, my.  Make sure to wrap your head real tight with something, lest it explode from the awesome.  Desert island discs?  Why, yes they are...
                   
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                    Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:46 AM (permalink)
                    I see Bridge Across Forever just appeared on iTunes. It doesn't have the bonus disc songs that I saw when researching the album. But I don't even know if that version is available as "new" any more.
                     
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                      Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:38 PM (permalink)
                      So I tried to start a new thread about the following topic but the forums are a bit screwy:

                      Let's get some basses and amps and settings info from Pete. My god his tone is amazing. Might be THE best bass tone I've heard on a recent release.
                       
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                        Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Friday, November 13, 2009 7:04 PM (permalink)
                        Wow, have to give my appreciation to The Whirlwind - it's simply pure awesomeness! I love Bridge Across Forever, but The Whirlwind really takes it to another level! Thank you Mike, and the rest of Transatlantic, for creating this masterpiece! :D

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                          Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Friday, November 13, 2009 7:06 PM (permalink)
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                          So I tried to start a new thread about the following topic but the forums are a bit screwy:

                          Let's get some basses and amps and settings info from Pete. My god his tone is amazing. Might be THE best bass tone I've heard on a recent release.


                          Have to agree on the bass tone, its amazing. Love the sound of it. That and the drums.
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                            Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Friday, November 13, 2009 8:06 PM (permalink)
                            I'm still waiting for Amazon to deliver the album (never had any problems with them before so I hope they eventually get the album to me) but I'm assuming as Play have a similar release date, it's not entirely their fault.

                            Anyway what I wanted to say was, despite not hearing the album, I'm surprised that people are surprised that this sounds very Neal Morse influenced.  It seems very clear to me on both the earlier albums that he was the main creative force, that's why they could not continue when he left.  I mean neither album sounds like Dream Theater or Marillion or Flower Kings.  However they do sound very similar to Spock's Beard albeit with some of the more goofy elements reined in.  My first thought when I heard Testimony was that it sounded a bit like Transatlantic and Spock's Beard.  Transatlantic were always a little better than Spock's Beard as the other members are firstly better musicians and secondly did bring their own ideas to the table, particularly Roine on the first album, unlike SB and his solo albums where he is very much in control (I loved SB and his solo albums apart from Lifeline by the way).  I just don't see a vast difference between TA, SB and the solo records.

                            I am really looking forward to the new album, fully in the knowledge that it will sound a bit like Spock's Beard and Neal Morse, and that is no bad thing as he is a phenomenal singer and songwriter and is the main reason the band are so good in the first place. It's just that surrounding himself with incredible musical and creative talent like Mike, Roine and Pete takes his music to an even higher level.

                            As for the religious lyrics, I'm not always wild about them and if you really can't stomach them then don't buy the record, the same as his solo records, but you'll be missing out on some incredible music, I'm sure of that.
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                              Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Friday, November 13, 2009 8:30 PM (permalink)
                              Got the album today in the mail! I've only heard the bonus disc so far, and most of it's pretty good. Out of the originals, Spinning and Lending A Hand are awesome. Pete's a really good vocalist and I hope he has more lead vocal opportunities on the next Transatlantic album. I heard another reviewer somewhere saying that Lenny Johnson sounded like a John Lennon song. To me it sounds like if John Lennon joined ELO. It's an alright song, but I wouldn't say it's one of their best. For Such A Time didn't really do much for me and I don't think I'll go back to that song. Lenny Johnson might grow on me, but I'll be listening to Spinning and Lending A Hand a lot. Out of the covers, A Salty Dog and Soul Sacrifice are pretty cool. I never heard A Salty Dog before and I have to say I quite like it. MP puts in a stellar vocal performance and I think he should get more lead vocals in the future. Return Of The Giant Hogweed and I Need you are alright and Transatlantic put in some good work on them, but I didn't really care much for those songs in the first place. Overall, the bonus disc is pretty cool and I rather look forward to the main portion of the album.
                               
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                                Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:32 AM (permalink)
                                This album sounds more like a Neal Morse solo album then a TA album, it isnt bad it's just not as good as the first two. Part 11 is by far though the best part of the album...
                                 
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                                  Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:36 AM (permalink)
                                  In the next Transatlantic's they should use the Boba Fett theme.
                                   
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                                    Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:25 PM (permalink)
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                                    This album sounds more like a Neal Morse solo album then a TA album, it isnt bad it's just not as good as the first two. Part 11 is by far though the best part of the album...


                                    Well, some of us thought it WAS a Neal solo album until Mike pointed out how little of it is actually from Neal's original concept.  So that's what they sound like now.  :)
                                     
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                                      Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:42 PM (permalink)
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                                      In the next Transatlantic's they should use the Boba Fett theme.


                                      Turns out that "Bobba Fett" theme is actually a bit from Tarkus by Emerson, Lake and Palmer.   At least that's what I read somewhere.  That's why Neal thought it was familiar but he didn't recall at the time.
                                       
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                                        Re: TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:25 PM (permalink)
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                                        I'm so impressed with this album, I love hearing Mike on a more fussion/jazz/pop/funky vibe, he totally owns it! and ofcourse I'm most impressed by the way he signs, "Set us free", Man I was so impressed I couldn't believe mike was singing on the chorus, it's fucking genius!
                                        I always wanted to hear Mike on a less "metal" way and see what he would do, and this album totally satisfied that wish I had, even now that I was kind of thinking " I love BC&SL but man, I kind of feel DT keeps reaching more and more the metal vibe to their music leaving behind all of thouse other elements that made DT so special and diferent from other Prog metal bands" ,
                                        you owned me Mike ;)

                                        Congratulations TA and especially Mike, awsome vibe and singing on this album!


                                        Yeah, this.

                                        Also, this album really grew on me after a few listens. It seemed a little forced the first few times, but now I like it considerably more.

                                        Go MP!
                                         
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                                          Re: TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:54 PM (permalink)
                                          perfect cd
                                           
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                                            Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:29 PM (permalink)
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                                            In the next Transatlantic's they should use the Boba Fett theme.


                                            Turns out that "Bobba Fett" theme is actually a bit from Tarkus by Emerson, Lake and Palmer.   At least that's what I read somewhere.  That's why Neal thought it was familiar but he didn't recall at the time.

                                            Yes, I recognized it.

                                             
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                                              Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Available Now!!! Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:14 PM (permalink)
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                                              That sounds like a totally made up name!


                                              It was a made up name. My parents made it up right around the time I was born!


                                               
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                                                Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:23 PM (permalink)
                                                mbag11

                                                 Overall, the bonus disc is pretty cool and I rather look forward to the main portion of the album.


                                                Did you get to the tiny hidden track after Soul Sacrifice on the bonus disc? It's the Transatlantic theme song, sort of their "Her Majesty". less than a minute long, total goofy, but a fun toss-off.

                                                I am really loving the Whirlwind. There is (not surprisingly) tremendous playing from start to finish. There are major contributions from all four of the band members.  I love the whole CD and it stands up as a concept album very well. Today, the track that is hitting me in a great way is "Is It Really Happening"...sort of TA does Floyd, very ethereal, dreamy and addictive.

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                                                  Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:29 PM (permalink)
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                                                  mbag11

                                                  Overall, the bonus disc is pretty cool and I rather look forward to the main portion of the album.


                                                  Did you get to the tiny hidden track after Soul Sacrifice on the bonus disc? It's the Transatlantic theme song, sort of their "Her Majesty". less than a minute long, total goofy, but a fun toss-off.



                                                  I did get to the hidden track after Soul Sacrifice. It reminded me of the King Crimson Barbershop and I always thought that was a fun toss-off as well.

                                                  The main portion of the album was pretty good. I think the album stands well along with the other Transatlantic albums and I will probably enjoy it more with each new listen. I think Pete does one hell of a job on his album. His Bass drives along the album very nicely and his tone is off the hook. Mike does some excellent drumming as always and Roine is even more at the forefront on this album. Dancing with Eternal Glory seems to be the weakest track of the album for me, but it does not ruin the whole piece for me and I can listen to it still. There's way too many highlights on this album for me to list. Definitely one of the best albums this year. Keep it up guys!


                                                   
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                                                    Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:31 PM (permalink)
                                                    It's friggin' awesome to get caught in The Whirlwind!!
                                                     
                                                    "On The Prowl" is one of my many fav's off this CD. Now I'm trapped in The Whirlwind and loving it.
                                                     
                                                    I'll never get tired of this CD.  If I ever get a chance to catch the Transatlantic tour next year, I'll be there!!
                                                     
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                                                      Re: Kerry's The Whirlwind Review Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:25 PM (permalink)
                                                      I rarely post here but lurk from time to time; I've been a fan of Neal Morse's songwriting since about 1998 (been a DT fan since about 2000) or so, and I've always loved his work with Transatlantic most of all.

                                                      Last night I spent a couple of hours enjoying back-to-back "headphones-and-bong" focused listenings of "The Whirlwind". Outside, here in the San Fernando Valley, the winds absolutely howled, wreaking havoc upon the slowly-turning autumn leaves -- an appropriate setting for a concept album wherein wind plays a major metaphorical role.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      But first - the music.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      I was immediately hooked by the main TW theme - Pete Trewavas came up with this? Awesome! – it’s a great progression and is, in fact, rendered in a variety of ways throughout the remainder of the piece, as are a bunch of other musical motifs. There are enough themes here, in various guises, to keep me a very happy man for a good while.
                                                       
                                                      At last count, I spotted at least ten different themes in the first piece alone which are elaborated and re-incorporated throughout the piece -- damn, boyee!
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      As I thought about this album and my expectations, I came to a realization: had Transatlantic delivered another "Bridge Across Forever" -- my favorite album of all time, and no, I'm not kidding -- they would've done what I THOUGHT I wanted. But, truthfully, what I really wanted was not another BAF, but something completely new, a re-visioning of their classic sound but wrapped up in completely new packaging. I realized I should be grateful they didn't simply repeat BAF - as much as I believed that's what I wanted - and that they chose, instead, to go for a somewhat different approach to The Epic.
                                                       
                                                      Kudos, gentlemen, for not meeting my expectations, but, rather, exceeding them.
                                                       

                                                       
                                                      Man, this album flows like a sonic river. Sure, there are moments that are reminiscent of previous Transatlantic and Spock's Beard songs, but I'm choosing to look at these moments as the stylistic fingerprints of this particular songwriting collective rather than mere rehashes of old ideas. As has been said before: when you're as prolific as these gentlemen (and Neal Morse in particular), ideas are bound to be re-envisioned from time to time. I can certainly give them at least that much.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      The opening track ("Overture/The Whirlwind") pretty much sums up most of the themes that recur in various guises throughout the piece; it's incredibly well-thought out in that regard. When Roine's vocals come in - chills, baby! There's also some jaw-dropping bass playing throughout - fantastic, biting tone. The second track ("The Wind Blew Them All Away") is a bit less musically interesting but it, too, delivers a couple of ideas that will crop up again later; Stolt also pays a cool little guitar homage to Clapton's solo on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", which is just a blast to hear. The third track - "On The Prowl" - is a monster jam. Neal's solo at the beginning of this song absolutely kicks all kinds of ass! It also has some re-visitation of the earlier themes - it's all holding together incredibly well at this point.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Track four ("A Man Can Feel") continues the hook-laden melodic pop goodness, again re-visiting some of the established themes couched within a new song. Clearly, my initial impression - that TW was a collection of songs as opposed to a true, composed epic - was dead wrong. Track five ("Out of the Night") almost feels to me like this could quite possibly have been the original ending of the piece. It heavily reuses the TW theme and the outro is as bombastic and heavy as per usual with Transatlantic. This song feels like a break-point in the epic, a pre-climax, and then...
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      ...it transitions seamlessly into the literal centerpiece of the album, the magnificent track six ("Rose Colored Glasses"). Damn, what a beautifully written tribute to Neal's late father. This song is simply Neal completely in his element - I'm only sorry for the circumstances behind the creation of this gorgeous song. There's a transition into what might be considered the chorus, which reminds me of the dramatic change of key between the verse and chorus in Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road". Simply stunning. And, while my first impression was highly critical of the bridge, I can live with this one - although I maintain Neal could've gone anyplace more interesting than this, but it's all good in the center of the whirlwind. Once again, the working-in of the main TW theme here is just stunning and adds to the sense of cohesion that these guys are expert at creating. Be sure to stop by the killer guitar solo and buy yourself a big old bag of awesome - man, Roine just kills here.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Track seven ("Evermore") introduces an absolutely bad-ass ELP-like section which reminds me of the insane piano work behind the "cold and misty morning" section of Karn Evil 9: First Impression Part One. Really, really, freaking cool! Later in this track, the "is it really happening?" theme is introduced for the first time, adding to the melodic arsenal of this World Power of an epic. On track eight ("Set Us Free") there's an attention to detail that kills me: Neal sings a line (paraphrasing here) about "look at the person to your right, watch them slowly going mad" and during the "mad" part, the sound of a whirlwind is heard in the background. I love little details like this!
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Track nine ("Lay Down Your Life") is driving me crazy - what '80s metal vocalist is being channeled here? It's on the tip of my tongue - I thought it might be Eric Dover (Slash, Imperial Drag) - but I can't for the life of me figure out where I've heard this voice before. It's cool tho, great song, slightly Beatle-y in that "Suite Charlotte Pike" way, only much more streamlined. The guys take a dark "orchestra hit" melodic sequence - heavy as Hades - and just twist that sucker up in a manner most bad-ass. I absolutely adore the drumming turnarounds in here - total genius. Not sure if this is part of track nine or ten ("Pieces of Heaven"), but man, this thing really is crazy-cohesive. It's truly working as one giant THING.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Which leads into track eleven ("Is It really Happening?"), which builds up slowly and winds up being a total Yngwie Malmsteen Euro-shred faux-classical motif delivered expertly by Stolt. Really fun, and I thought it was exceptionally cool to throw in such an obvious homage to his part of the musical world.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Which leads to the ending ("Dancing With Eternal Glory/The Whirlwind Reprise"), another mellow, "almost too cliche to believe but heartfelt nonetheless" Morse ballad. Damn. I want to crucify the guy for having the balls to write such blatantly AOR/pop melodies, but when you hear him singing it, like with some movies, you just have to suspend disbelief and roll with it, baby. The chorus - which I originally thought of as being "Diane Warren quality" - in my most humble of opinions would've been far more effective had the band decided to bring back the Em-to-A (not sure of those are the right chords but it's the right interval) sections from "Rose Colored Glasses" and built it from there. THAT is what my mind hears when this song goes from the lovely, simple melodic verse to the otherwise simplistic chorus Morse chose to utilize. But it's not my song and Neal will do what his heart tells him, so instead we get a chorus that is not unlike - in vibe and feel - Fish's "A Gentleman's Excuse Me" or Chris DeBurgh's "Lady in Red". It's far too AOR for my tastes but it is what it is and it is - if anything - very effective if you can get past the somewhat schmaltzy show-tune vibe. It's not dark and heavy like the outro of "Duel With the Devil", it reminds me more of Neal's post-Beard stuff, which seemed to lose a darker edge in favor of a more uplifting, sanitized, generic Christian AOR feel. This is the most "Christ-like" of the songs, based on the title alone, with lyrical references to "He is at the center of the whirlwind" or some such concept (as well as sharing a "dancing" theme with "A Gentleman's Excuse Me"). As I said, it's very effective but just a little too uplifting and light for my tastes. When Neal sings "Liiiiifeeeee" over that awesome little climbing string section - which was introduced in the very beginning of the album - it's pretty spine-tingling. Then it fades away into a big old "Day in the Life" chord that rings out for a minute or so.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      I'm finding myself really being drawn in by the lyrics, "eternal glories" notwithstanding (I am steadfastly not a Christian although I was raised one). Early on in the piece Neal sings "When the climate changed...", introducing a timely subject if ever there was. To hear four guys from different parts of the planet questioning "is it really happening?", I can only assume they're referring to climate change and, more metaphorically, a greater change in mankind. It's pretty jaw-dropping and quite somber and I find myself really, really liking the concept. Also, the obvious concept of a whirlwind - calm in the center, chaos around the edges, blowing men into the sky (no subtle resurrection reference there LOL)  - is an effective device to help convey many related ideas.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Overall, I think this album equals "Bridge Across Forever" in several respects; the overall lyrical concept is at least as comprehensive, but TW offers a lot more musicality and thematic development than BAF. It is a masterful slice of collective songwriting, offering boatloads of sonic snacks to chew on as well as offering some lyrical ideas to give one pause for thought. And, contrary to my first impression, this is NOT A COLLECTION OF SONGS STRUNG TOGETHER TO MAKE AN EPIC! Not even close. It's gonna take me a lot more exposures to figure out all of the themes, where and how they occur, and how they interlock, but it is, without question, one giant THING. A masterpiece, if I dare say.
                                                       
                                                       

                                                      Which is exactly what I was hoping for in this long-awaited follow-up. Thanks,
                                                      Transatlantic, for giving my brain something to chew on for the next several months, if not a lifetime. Fantastic work!
                                                       
                                                       

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                                                        Re: Kerry's The Whirlwind Review Friday, November 20, 2009 2:47 AM (permalink)
                                                        That's a wonderful review, Kerry. I really enjoyed reading it!
                                                        TW truly is a masterpiece. :-)
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                                                          Re: Kerry's The Whirlwind Review Friday, November 20, 2009 8:55 AM (permalink)
                                                          Wow!!! That's an AWESOME review!
                                                          Thanks for taking time and posting it!!!
                                                          Very nice read!!!
                                                            
                                                           
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                                                            Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Friday, November 20, 2009 4:22 PM (permalink)
                                                            Lee Jun Fan


                                                            Is there any version in a jewel case?


                                                            ...guess not
                                                             
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                                                              Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:25 AM (permalink)
                                                              Lately I've found that I really like this CD a LOT more if I just skip the last track, which really gets on my nerves and is probably the most anti-climactic climax of any epic in the Transatlantic catalog. 

                                                              So, I've ripped it to my iPod, 11 tracks, and it kind of works for me that way.

                                                              But this album will definitely occupy third place for me.

                                                              But with that said, it's still better than a lot of the prog in my collection, and the musicianship is outstanding, as is the production.



                                                               
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                                                                Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:39 PM (permalink)
                                                                Finally got the album from Amazon this week and for a few days struggled to get through it in one sitting without doing other things.  Last night I finally set aside the time to give it my full attention and all I can say is WOW.  An incredible record that truly deserves it's place with the other 2 albums.  Totally disagree with anyone calling this a Neal Morse solo album in disguise.  Yes his is the main influence (as it is on the other two albums) but this is totally recognisable as Transatlantic.  It has that special magic that lifts it above his solo records and Spock's Beard (I love all of those albums aswell although Lifeline was a slight dip). 

                                                                Also I really don't get all the stuff about his lyrics, they are really toned down on this record, only Dancing With Eternal Glory is really overtly religious in nature.  For the most part they are no more religious than the likes of Stranger In Your Soul or We All Need Some Light.  Spiritual yes but not at all preachy.  Like someone has already said, if we didn't all know Neal's story and he hadn't been so open about his beliefs I really don't think anyone would be talking about the lyrics.

                                                                All in all this is a truly spectaclar return from an incredible band and well worth the long wait, can't wait for the tour now!

                                                                Thanks to Mike, Neal, Roine and Pete (how good is he on this record by the way!!) for giving us one more album to cherish.
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                                                                And feel the walls become sand beneath your feet.
                                                                 
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                                                                  Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:17 AM (permalink)
                                                                  ^^ 100% agree!!
                                                                   
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                                                                    Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:17 PM (permalink)
                                                                    Peter Mc


                                                                    only Dancing With Eternal Glory is really overtly religious in nature. 


                                                                    Got another example of a TA song that is this religiously IN YOUR FACE?

                                                                    Sorry, but for some of us, the subject matter of the last song ruins the album.

                                                                    I guess it's a case of YMMV, and in my case it varies in a downward motion, because the climax of the album, from my perspective, is completely unlistenable.  I have to skip that last track, it just really grates on my nerves.  I really would have preferred it if Neal had saved his sermonizing for his solo material.

                                                                    That's the main reason I have to rate it way below the other two, because the lyrics on the other two were 100% ambiguous, there is NOTHING ambiguous about the last track of The Whirlwind and what I think some people have to realize is this type of thing puts a lot of people off.

                                                                    Still, there is absolutely some terrific progressive rock on this album, and I quite enjoy most of it.  Emphasis on "most"





                                                                     
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                                                                      Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 23, 2009 11:28 AM (permalink)
                                                                      Right, finally got round to buying this off iTunes.  Listening now...  Will report back if/when I remember to
                                                                       
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                                                                        Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 23, 2009 1:21 PM (permalink)
                                                                        KirksNoseHair
                                                                        Got another example of a TA song that is this religiously IN YOUR FACE?

                                                                         
                                                                        The lyrics of track three, "On The Prowl", are pretty in your face with religious spew -- such that I have to tune them out lest I burn in the eternal fires of hell for the remainder of time.
                                                                         
                                                                        I agree that The Whirlwind would've been SO MUCH BETTER had Neal kept the lyrics ambiguous like the prior two albums.
                                                                         
                                                                        Like, on the song "Bridge Across Forever", I'm pretty sure Neal's original lyric was something like "...and my Lord, He is standing on the side of a magic river." But instead he sang "...and my love, she is standing on the side of a magic river."
                                                                         
                                                                        I like it better when I don't feel I'm being judged or preached at via lyrics.
                                                                         
                                                                        Really, I love Neal's music and his amazing talent for extended compositions, but I think with "Testimony" he truly said all that needed to be said regarding his religious conversion. Now THAT was a heartfelt and moving album, although I rarely listen to it anymore.
                                                                         
                                                                        Instead he's turned into one of these seemingly militant "spread the word at all costs" kind of religious zealots and I always -- ALWAYS -- slam the door in those types of people's faces.
                                                                         
                                                                        Enjoy your God and your beliefs but leave me the hell out of it!
                                                                         
                                                                        kErrY
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                                                                          Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 23, 2009 1:59 PM (permalink)
                                                                          ^ The thing I don't understand is why a lot of very religious songwriters are incapable of writing about anything other than their faith.  Now, I love bacon.  I pretty much plan my week around when I can eat bacon.  But imagine if I only wrote songs about bacon.
                                                                           
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                                                                            Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 23, 2009 2:31 PM (permalink)
                                                                            I think it's just something that people become extremely passionate about because it's really about life/death which is deadly serious.  Which brings me to another thing that is kind of missing from "The Whirlwind" (or at least not as prevalent as it was on the first two albums) and that is a sense of FUN.

                                                                            That lack of fun and deadly serious tone to the lyrical themes has also permeated Neal's last 4 albums and has become more and more of a turn-off for me.

                                                                            I do want to re-emphasize one thing:  I DO think the music is stellar (for the most part) although I think Neal's writing is becoming more and more predictable as time goes on.

                                                                            That said, I have the same problem with Dream Theater these days, to be honest.  I still LOVE the music, but it sometimes has a "been there, done that" feel to it.



                                                                             
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                                                                              Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 23, 2009 3:13 PM (permalink)
                                                                              Look at it this way...listen to an Opeth album and then play this one. Everything will balance out and the universe
                                                                              will rotate as it should.
                                                                               
                                                                              In the end, it's not for us to question an artists motivational factors, but to simply decide of we like the art or not.
                                                                               
                                                                              It is 100% obvious by now the NM will NEVER again make music that isn't influenced heavily by his faith. Period.
                                                                              We can either like it or not. And no matter what, he will keep doing what he feels he needs to do.
                                                                               
                                                                              I choose to like it and but album ends right before the last track begins.
                                                                               
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                                                                                Re:TRANSATLANTIC'S THE WHIRLWIND - Coming in October! Monday, November 23, 2009 4:22 PM (permalink)
                                                                                It's nice, I suppose, to have the ability to "choose" to like or not like something.  I wish I could do such a thing, but I can't.  I either like it, or I don't.  I have no choice in the matter.

                                                                                I hear what you're saying about Opeth, and to an extent I agree, however, the difference between the Opeth lyrics and NM's lyrics is the perspective from which they are coming.  With Neal, it's his new-found (or relatively new-found) hard-core, die-hard, beliefs that he's pushing on the listener, with Opeth, it's mostly schtick, and everyone knows this, which is why you don't hear people complaining about Opeth lyrics too much.  In fact, I can't remember the last time I saw a complaint about Opeth's lyrics anywhere.

                                                                                There's a reason why they say politics and religion are not good topics for friends to discuss.

                                                                                It's hard not to discuss this without breaking forum rules, which is a bit of a catch 22 that Neal himself has put us all in, so I'm going to bow out of the topic now that I've said everything I feel safe enough to say without risking getting Weymowned.  If I take this to the next logical step, I may be stepping over the line, which I don't want to do.




                                                                                 
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