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Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:56 AM

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:59 AM
Uhm.  Neither do I.

I actually can't...  Wow.  What the Hell.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:01 AM
That is the dumbest idea ever, and a bigger waste of money then almost anything else.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:02 AM
You mean you guys don't talk to the moon?
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:06 AM
No, but I talk to my plush toys. And they all agreed that the article was lame.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:08 AM
This is sexually assaulting the moon, essentially.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:10 AM
Death5561


That is the dumbest idea ever, and a bigger waste of money then almost anything else.


What, crashing the spacecraft into the moon? It's been orbiting the moon for a long time now, and has reached the end of its life span. Bringing it back to earth isn't feasable, so they'll crash it to get one last use from the spacecraft.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:11 AM
RobertB


This is sexually assaulting the moon, essentially.


I disagree. I think she likes it.

And looking at her craters, I wouldn't say the moon looks like a girl of decency anyway.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:15 AM
"Hey guys, we can't play tonight. I was gonna change the strings on my guitar, but I talked to them and they said they don't want me to."

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:16 AM
Would be funny though if the Moon gets totally pissed and busts a freakin' cap in someone.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:17 AM
By the way, here's some hi-def video captured by said spacecraft. This is actual footage of the moon surface, very cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJmT3dPbwHE

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:17 AM
I just asked the moon, and she said to stop cockblocking as she hasn't been "probed" in years.
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:21 AM
I'm just gonna spare somebody else the embarrassment and say, right now, "Houston, we have a condom"

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:24 AM
Naigewron


By the way, here's some hi-def video captured by said spacecraft. This is actual footage of the moon surface, very cool!


No, it's fake. They edited out the alien bases on the surface, and the spaceships lifting off and landing.


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:13 AM
exabyte


Naigewron


By the way, here's some hi-def video captured by said spacecraft. This is actual footage of the moon surface, very cool!


No, it's fake. They edited out the alien bases on the surface, and the spaceships lifting off and landing.


Well, that goes without saying. The surface is real, however

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:22 AM
"It is an example of the domination of the left-brained rational scientific approach over the intuitive"

The fact that she says that like it's a bad thing tells you all you need to know. That, and her bio:

"Satya is a priestess, a shaman, a visionary, and a scholar focusing primarily on astrology, Earth changes, and 2012. She has been studying astrology and delving deep into the mysteries since 1994. She has a passion to discover how it all works, and to communicate her findings with others."

Jesus. Somebody get the net.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:22 AM
Her other articles are just as juvenile. Wow.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:23 AM
exabyte

I disagree. I think she likes it.

And looking at her craters, I wouldn't say the moon looks like a girl of decency anyway.

 
Plus
 
ganpondorodf


I'm just gonna spare somebody else the embarrassment and say, right now, "Houston, we have a condom"


Equals
 

 
You two win the thread.
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:23 AM
Isn't there someone on the forum with a sig that's actually a quote from Tori Amos saying the very same thing?
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:34 AM
Naigewron


Death5561


That is the dumbest idea ever, and a bigger waste of money then almost anything else.


What, crashing the spacecraft into the moon? It's been orbiting the moon for a long time now, and has reached the end of its life span. Bringing it back to earth isn't feasable, so they'll crash it to get one last use from the spacecraft.


Yeah, it was launched on September 2007, and it was planned to run for one year, it almost ran for 2 years, it took some of the greatest pictures of the Moon I've seen, they're awesome, aswell as the videos, it did an amazing job.

I tried to see the impact on the live telescope, but it couldn't capture it, I'm expecting to see pictures of the impact one of these days, I'm sure there will be some.

Well, RIP KAGUYA, you will be missed :p


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:40 AM
Guys, guys, it's satire!

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:56 AM
Guys, guys... I just checked with the Moon, and she was totally down with the Kaguya thing. Nothing to worry about.
It was time, I felt, for an Agonizing Reappraisal of the whole scene.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:53 PM
Satire or not... it's bad either way. I am getting that the person who wrote this never passed an English 101 course with anything higher than a D+.
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:01 PM
ganpondorodf


I'm just gonna spare somebody else the embarrassment and say, right now, "Houston, we have a condom"


  You owe me one HP USB Keyboard, you fucker


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:03 PM
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ganpondorodf


I'm just gonna spare somebody else the embarrassment and say, right now, "Houston, we have a condom"


  You owe me one HP USB Keyboard, you fucker


AHAH I missed that one. LMAO.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:08 PM
TrueSagan


Guys, guys, it's satire!


Please show me where cause I want to believe it is satire.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:12 PM
TrueSagan


Guys, guys, it's satire!


No, its not.  Look at her other articles.  Its new-age astrology BS.






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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:19 PM
Well... i dont talk to he moon.... i bark at the moon

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:25 PM
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TrueSagan


Guys, guys, it's satire!


No, its not.  Look at her other articles.  Its new-age astrology BS.


No way man, there's just no way.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:28 PM
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Chris Hinton


No, its not.  Look at her other articles.  Its new-age astrology BS.


No way man, there's just no way.


You should never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:41 PM
Sound to me like someone has had a little too much weed lately.

No offense to the tokers on the forum meant, of course.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:45 PM
.......

(^ speechless)

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:27 PM
The posts in this thread are pure gold.
And the responses to the article are pure gold too.
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:46 PM

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:13 PM
'And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too,
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon...'

... Honestly, what?


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:40 PM
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This explains everything.


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:56 PM
1) Forwarded to everybody in the office
2) Bookmarked so I can continue reading the comments

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:00 PM
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TrueSagan


Guys, guys, it's satire!


No, its not.  Look at her other articles.  Its new-age astrology BS.


This was my first idea as well. You cannot underestimate the direction that new-age astrology, psychology or psychoanalysis has taken these days. I mean, was I only one who was rolling his eyes during the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:16 PM
Monk


This was my first idea as well. You cannot underestimate the direction that new-age astrology, psychology or psychoanalysis has taken these days. I mean, was I only one who was rolling his eyes during the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"


Erm... Psychology is just studying human metal functions and behaviours. And "new age" psychology is just improving in these regards. It might be not fully scientific in some aspects, there might be some loonies working in the field (like everywhere), some of them might be more vocal than the rest, but just because someone who has a degree in psychology decided to speak some BS, doesn't mean you can lump the whole field and its modern development together with astrology.

But yeah, I didn't even watch that movie. Just reading a short summary was enough for me...



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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:29 PM
Did ANY of you barbarians ask the forum permission before you violently clicked on the Post Message button? Did you ask the SQL server before you callously inserted your data into its tables? No. I didn't think so.
It was time, I felt, for an Agonizing Reappraisal of the whole scene.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:55 PM



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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:56 PM
Monk


Chris Hinton


TrueSagan


Guys, guys, it's satire!


No, its not.  Look at her other articles.  Its new-age astrology BS.


This was my first idea as well. You cannot underestimate the direction that new-age astrology, psychology or psychoanalysis has taken these days. I mean, was I only one who was rolling his eyes during the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"


FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!!!!!

I thought of the movie as one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. My attitude towards the movie was "bleh". But then I found the lady's biography... that explained a lot, and the movie uncovered itself for what truly is: cultist bullshit. 
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:00 PM
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Monk


This was my first idea as well. You cannot underestimate the direction that new-age astrology, psychology or psychoanalysis has taken these days. I mean, was I only one who was rolling his eyes during the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"


Erm... Psychology is just studying human metal functions and behaviours.
But yeah, I didn't even watch that movie. Just reading a short summary was enough for me...


Sweet! I'm becoming a Psychologist. My work will mostly consist of field studies of people at Metal shows, purely for scientific reasons of course.


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:02 PM
Sirr0


*snip*


Time taken to create:2 minutes.

I knew this was comming.

Sometimes I think this anchor just weighs me down.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:07 PM
For the people saying it is satire, how in the world do you figure it is satire?

This woman is just stupid. Astrologists are forced to suspend critical thinking/logic in order to study it (which explains a lot about why most of their ideas are just plain dumb)
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:58 PM
Aw man, now my cycles are gonna be all messed up.  And we're going to have a generational gap because now no women will be able to have babies.  Sheesh.  MEN.
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:44 PM
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Aw man, now my cycles are gonna be all messed up. 


That's why they were calling it a de -menstruation




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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:08 PM
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Sirr0


*snip*


Time taken to create:2 minutes.

I knew this was comming.


That's the single best thing i've seen this week!  Pure awesome

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:18 PM
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Wassy


Aw man, now my cycles are gonna be all messed up. 


That's why they were calling it a de -menstruation


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:27 PM
Article is wacked man!

Basically what she is saying, is that the Satellite (male) is going to explode all over the moon (female).   I see what she is trying to say!

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:42 PM
SIRR0

FUCKING LOL

HAHAHAHAHA

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:44 PM
The man in the moon is a lady,
A lady in lipstick and curls;
The cow that jumped ovah cried,
"Jumpin' Jehovah,
I think it's just one of the girls."
She winks at the stars from her bed of green cheese,
That isn't a night-gown,
It's a Saturn chemise.
Oh, her friends are the stars and the planets,
She sends the Big Dipper a kiss;
So don't ever offend her,
Remember her gender,
The man in the moon is a miss.


so...........she's a lesbian?

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 7:24 AM
Examiner from San Francisco.


That says it all now, doesn't it?

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 7:28 AM
0rion


Did ANY of you barbarians ask the forum permission before you violently clicked on the Post Message button? Did you ask the SQL server before you callously inserted your data into its tables? No. I didn't think so.


OMG I think I peed a little

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 7:42 AM
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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM
exabyte


Monk


This was my first idea as well. You cannot underestimate the direction that new-age astrology, psychology or psychoanalysis has taken these days. I mean, was I only one who was rolling his eyes during the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"


Erm... Psychology is just studying human metal functions and behaviours. And "new age" psychology is just improving in these regards. It might be not fully scientific in some aspects, there might be some loonies working in the field (like everywhere), some of them might be more vocal than the rest, but just because someone who has a degree in psychology decided to speak some BS, doesn't mean you can lump the whole field and its modern development together with astrology.

But yeah, I didn't even watch that movie. Just reading a short summary was enough for me...


I agree. There is something tangiable to new-age psychology that we can benefit from. The problem lies in that those who are sane in this field are a minority. Even in WTBDWK there was ONE speaker who made sense (the guy with the fountain in the background). I liked him. He was probably the one person I would love to hear more from. The rest were loony as this woman here. Some of the topics were also somewhat understandable but again it was far out there theories which didn't seem very scientific.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 8:08 AM
Naigewron

What, crashing the spacecraft into the moon? It's been orbiting the moon for a long time now, and has reached the end of its life span. Bringing it back to earth isn't feasable, so they'll crash it to get one last use from the spacecraft.


FWIW, this isn’t the first time a lunar orbiter has been purposely crashed into the moon. So far there haven’t been any complaints from the moon…



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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 8:18 AM
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Naigewron

What, crashing the spacecraft into the moon? It's been orbiting the moon for a long time now, and has reached the end of its life span. Bringing it back to earth isn't feasable, so they'll crash it to get one last use from the spacecraft.


FWIW, this isn’t the first time a lunar orbiter has been purposely crashed into the moon. So far there haven’t been any complaints from the moon…


Very true. The very first man-made object on the moon was crashlanded there by the russians.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 8:26 AM
Interesting that they hope to learn something about the composition of the moon.

See, I'd have thought the moon rocks that were brought back would've gone a long way toward that particular goal.  Shows how much I know...

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 8:48 AM
Spunky

See, I'd have thought the moon rocks that were brought back would've gone a long way toward that particular goal.  Shows how much I know...


The moon is made of more than just one material, just like earth.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 9:14 AM
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exabyte


Monk


This was my first idea as well. You cannot underestimate the direction that new-age astrology, psychology or psychoanalysis has taken these days. I mean, was I only one who was rolling his eyes during the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"


Erm... Psychology is just studying human metal functions and behaviours. And "new age" psychology is just improving in these regards. It might be not fully scientific in some aspects, there might be some loonies working in the field (like everywhere), some of them might be more vocal than the rest, but just because someone who has a degree in psychology decided to speak some BS, doesn't mean you can lump the whole field and its modern development together with astrology.

But yeah, I didn't even watch that movie. Just reading a short summary was enough for me...


I agree. There is something tangiable to new-age psychology that we can benefit from. The problem lies in that those who are sane in this field are a minority. Even in WTBDWK there was ONE speaker who made sense (the guy with the fountain in the background). I liked him. He was probably the one person I would love to hear more from. The rest were loony as this woman here. Some of the topics were also somewhat understandable but again it was far out there theories which didn't seem very scientific.


I haven't seen the movie either (I heard it was quackery early on) but I wonder if the guy your talking about is Stuart Hameroff. I know he was in WTBDWK. His theory about the quantum nature of consciousness is intriguing. It's also very controversial and largely dismissed by mainstream science. But Hameroff isn't just your run of the mill quack. He knows what he's talking about and he believes in it. There are just some pesky, though valid, scientific questions that he hasn't been able to adequately answer yet.

His involvement with WTBDWK certainly hasn't helped his cause, however. And the fact that his quantum consciousness theory is extremely attractive to nutters (because it appears to suggest, though not really, a scientific basis for pseudoscience like ESP and telepathy and perhaps even clairvoyance and maybe worse) doesn't lend him a lot of credibility among mainstream scientists, fairly or unfairly.

He himself has suggested that his theory might offer a scientific basis for a belief in an afterlife.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 9:15 AM
"Crazier than A Shithouse Rat."

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 10:25 AM
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Article is wacked man!

Basically what she is saying, is that the Satellite (male) is going to explode all over the moon (female).   I see what she is trying to say!


Check this link. The section titled Healing Sexual Energy (the third paragraph, specifically) mentions the author of the article -Ann (Satya) Harvey. You are closer to the truth than you may think.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Friday, June 12, 2009 11:19 AM
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I haven't seen the movie either (I heard it was quackery early on) but I wonder if the guy your talking about is Stuart Hameroff. I know he was in WTBDWK. His theory about the quantum nature of consciousness is intriguing. It's also very controversial and largely dismissed by mainstream science. But Hameroff isn't just your run of the mill quack. He knows what he's talking about and he believes in it. There are just some pesky, though valid, scientific questions that he hasn't been able to adequately answer yet.

His involvement with WTBDWK certainly hasn't helped his cause, however. And the fact that his quantum consciousness theory is extremely attractive to nutters (because it appears to suggest, though not really, a scientific basis for pseudoscience like ESP and telepathy and perhaps even clairvoyance and maybe worse) doesn't lend him a lot of credibility among mainstream scientists, fairly or unfairly.

He himself has suggested that his theory might offer a scientific basis for a belief in an afterlife.


I don't think that was him. I tried a image search and the movie has him with a desert background. The guy I'm remembering looked like he was in front of a Miami background. Or maybe i'm just mixing them up since it's been oh, 5 years since I watched the movie.





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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:42 PM
Oh noes! We're going to mess with the lady once again. And this time we're going ot do it with a bigger one.

Not only that, but the disgraceful act would be in front of everyone's eyes... And, what's worse, children (with telescopes) would witness how we're violating her! What are we going to do now?

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:56 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-12038-SF-Astrology-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Response-to-comments-about-the-lunar-orbiter-article

Satya strikes again, this time with an article in response to comments about the original article.  She really is just a batty old woman who doesn't live in our real world.


In other news, Sibyll Trelawney is looking for a job.  Maybe she could write for The Examiner??


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:56 PM
I... see... the purpose of sending astronauts to the moon is only to see if "she" is indeed sterile... so we and other objects in the universe can hit her over and over again without feeling guilty or afraid for it!

And all these years I thought it was made of swiss cheese.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:33 PM
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http://www.examiner.com/x-12038-SF-Astrology-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Response-to-comments-about-the-lunar-orbiter-article

Satya strikes again, this time with an article in response to comments about the original article.  She really is just a batty old woman who doesn't live in our real world.


So I focused on my breath, and when my mind was quieter I connected to the moon, and asked her some questions. She said she didn't like it, she had had better in her life, and hopes that our next one would be manly enough. However, she also said that was a lot better than the Apollo landings touching down on her surface, which only teased her and then left her without giving her any love.

The moon generally prefers bigger impacts, but she is also excited about the human ones, because they usually come with a big load that has the potential to release a lot of energy with a proper explosion. She also likes that they orbit around her flirting with her for years before actually crashing in her, unlike most asteroids that simply pop out of nowhere, catching her off guard and then... bang!

I also talked with Venus, and she said she was jealous. She did such a good job at luring us at ancient times, and now when we're finally ready to go to her, we instead go to the easy one next-door, leaving her out in the cold. (I'm not sure she knows what this really means.)

Now I'm going to try focusing on my breath again, as I want to connect to Lauren Harris to ask her to marry me, and then connect to MP to ask him if I can join Dream Theater. I'll be back in a jiffy.

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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:41 PM
This is all I could think of when I read this story.


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Re:Lamest. Article. Ever. - Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:59 PM
Ahahahahahaha, that video is amazing.
Sometimes I think this anchor just weighs me down.