DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd!

KS and RTG

cyberdrummer


http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

That review made me really excited for Wither, The Shattered Fortress (I love references to old riffs), and The Best of Times, but it pretty much did the opposite for the rest.  I'd say I was most looking forward to the Count of Tuscany since I love DT's epics, but this review makes it sound like it's some disjointed mishmash of riffs and song ideas.  Still, I can't wait to hear this bad boy.

PS - I really want to know what the lyrics to The Count of Tuscany are about...

I love to read the reviews for what other people think about it but i normally just give it a full listen before i judge on an album.

cyberdrummer


http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

NOW THATS A PROMO PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmm, these reviews aren't making me much excited... good overall, but certain sections that are either controversial or completely disjointed.

You know what, I listened to the album again on the train today, and I completely had a revelation. I had to change my review somewhat as it was a bit too negative at times, and to clarify a few things about it. For instance, the last song just clicked today, and i realized it was the lyrics that completely hindered me from having it click before.

noxon


You know what, I listened to the album again on the train today, and I completely had a revelation. I had to change my review somewhat as it was a bit too negative at times, and to clarify a few things about it. For instance, the last song just clicked today, and i realized it was the lyrics that completely hindered me from having it click before.

<-- Jealous.

Not to be a partypooper, but wasn't discussion of content forbidden?

jif26

The New Guy


Don't want to fall on the negativiy side, but I'm not that excited for the album as of that review... I'm sure that as a whole the album may be awesome, but I'm concerned about the individual "controversial" sections...

This.
 
Just the growl thing tells me that they're continuing on the post-SFAM style. Hopefully I'll hear something I like. SC was the first album where I didn't like anything by them. I'd love to see a producer other than them. All IMO of course. I know most people love this and that's what counts.

 
+ 1
 
I pretty much agree with everything you said.. If the SC trend goes on this might be the first DT album I will not buy
 


 

Love the new promo picture

Are these all official yet as they seem to be sneaking out

Instrumental versions of the entire album...I can see and hear it now...a lot of karaoke mp3s, youtube vids from inspiring progressive metal vocalist out there...  Can't wait to hear the new album!

noxon


You know what, I listened to the album again on the train today, and I completely had a revelation. I had to change my review somewhat as it was a bit too negative at times, and to clarify a few things about it. For instance, the last song just clicked today, and i realized it was the lyrics that completely hindered me from having it click before.

I can see this happening because it has usually taken me a few listens to 'get' a song or album.

Completely unrelated, but check out the genre that Best Buy puts BC&SL under.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=17808516&st=black+clouds+and+silver+linings&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1987333



 

eviljake360


Completely unrelated, but check out the genre that Best Buy puts BC&SL under.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=17808516&st=black+clouds+and+silver+linings&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1987333

three words.
 
what. the. hell.

eviljake360


Completely unrelated, but check out the genre that Best Buy puts BC&SL under.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=17808516&st=black+clouds+and+silver+linings&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1987333

Then yet another section of different riffs, large amounts of rhythm changes and riff changes, typical for what we’ve come to know from DT the last few years. We also get to hear MP try out blast beats for a size,

So Mike can has play Blast Beats?

Apparently so. :O

Yeah...

I'm totally still pumped for the album, but I'm pretty disappointed to hear about the all-too-familiar solo trading and unisons. Bleh. I was hoping they'd moved on from that... guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

eviljake360


Completely unrelated, but check out the genre that Best Buy puts BC&SL under.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=17808516&st=black+clouds+and+silver+linings&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1987333

Makes sense.

From Jem Godfrey's blog:

"Then I had a top afternoon with Mr Rudess, we drank some beer, had a jam on his iPhone. Man, some of the apps he showed me were astonishing. We also shot lots of amusing vidcam stuff which I'll edit together this evening. And he played me The Count of Whatsit from the new DT album, it's bloody good and I feel a bit of a return to the more "melodic prog" that DT are adored for. And only a snitch at 20 minutes long."

Hey!!!!!!!!!

Melodic Prog?! :D

KS and RTG

cyberdrummer


http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

PS - I really want to know what the lyrics to The Count of Tuscany are about...

MP mentioned that they're about an experience JP had in Italy. That's pretty much it.

Ink

KS and RTG

cyberdrummer


http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

PS - I really want to know what the lyrics to The Count of Tuscany are about...

MP mentioned that they're about an experience JP had in Italy. That's pretty much it.

JP had an experience in Italy? Ok.

eviljake360


Completely unrelated, but check out the genre that Best Buy puts BC&SL under.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=17808516&st=black+clouds+and+silver+linings&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1987333

Holy shit...

KS and RTG


From Jem Godfrey's blog:

"Then I had a top afternoon with Mr Rudess, we drank some beer, had a jam on his iPhone. Man, some of the apps he showed me were astonishing. We also shot lots of amusing vidcam stuff which I'll edit together this evening. And he played me The Count of Whatsit from the new DT album, it's bloody good and I feel a bit of a return to the more "melodic prog" that DT are adored for. And only a snitch at 20 minutes long."

That sounds fun.

Haha yay for JR and Jem meeting up.  Two master keyboardists uniting

Thats amazing. You can see the video on Jordans online diary! :)
They seemed to have a great time, shame that he didnt include the count of tuscany in the video ;)

Ink


I'm totally still pumped for the album, but I'm pretty disappointed to hear about the all-too-familiar solo trading and unisons. Bleh. I was hoping they'd moved on from that... guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm so tired of the JP Solo > JR Solo > JP Solo > Unison formula that we've heard over the past couple of albums. It's almost like you can hear it coming.
 
Of course, still pumped for new album etc etc

Yeah, but that formula is restricted to the first two songs, actually. it's NOT there in the ladder four.

Oh
That's pretty fucking cool then

noxon


Yeah, but that formula is restricted to the first two songs, actually. it's NOT there in the ladder four.

Oh 
That's pretty fucking cool then

Cyclopssss


Not to be a partypooper, but wasn't discussion of content forbidden?

Yeah? WTH? You can't PM this stuff? Oh, and don't say I don't have to read it either, because I did stop. You've rendered this thread useless for those who might want to speculate about the album, or find out if there has been any more official news released (which is what I was doing).

Oh, please. It's just discussion of an official, "legal" review. And I believe there was a separate thread for speculation.

If you want surprises then hear another band. I dont understand why is never enough for many. DT is like a person who you love, you love her/him with virtues and defects. WDADU had unisions, I&W had solos; SFAM had the "FORMULA" and they are great. DT is DT the best band of all times (at least for me)... Period.

Yeas but with those albums there was a cohesiveness to everything. A sense of a whole work, not just individual pieces put together. 

stratomailer


Oh, please. It's just discussion of an official, "legal" review. And I believe there was a separate thread for speculation.

Well, if it doesn't violate this:

Wey

This is Mike’s personal website. This is not a discussion ground for content that you’ve heard prior to the official release date of the album. Have some respect for the owner of this site.
 
Yes, we know that in this day and age, everything becomes available on the internet before it’s legally available, and it’s your own personal choice to obtain it. This site is not the place for you to discuss what is not officially released.
 
Users discussing content that has not officially been released by the band or RoadRunner Records, on an official site is not tolerated. As well, providing links to content, hinting at site names where content can be found, broken URLs, etc that has not been officially released by the band or RoadRunner Records, on an official site is not tolerated.

I'm wrong then. I'm not going to read previous posts to make sure this was an official release.

Also, there was a thread for speculation, but this is where I went to find out new news, and it had been awhile since I've checked here. I'd say I found new news, but not the kind I was looking for.

It's pretty obvious that reviews are going to be coming out now, as that's the -point- of the promotional period before the album release. We who recieve said promos are going to write reviews, and some of us put it online. Basically, if you don't want to know anything about the album, at this point you should probably not go about reading anything on the internet relating to it as it's only going to become more and more spoilery.

And these reviews ARE legal, the record company has not put an embargo on when we can release the reviews. Although I did conciouscly not add it to this site, I cannot be held responsible for what other people link to here - but i would hold the right to clarify or correct anything that is related to my article.

BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS

This is my first post so......yeah

DT rules

noxon


It's pretty obvious that reviews are going to be coming out now, as that's the -point- of the promotional period before the album release. We who recieve said promos are going to write reviews, and some of us put it online. Basically, if you don't want to know anything about the album, at this point you should probably not go about reading anything on the internet relating to it as it's only going to become more and more spoilery.

And these reviews ARE legal, the record company has not put an embargo on when we can release the reviews. Although I did conciouscly not add it to this site, I cannot be held responsible for what other people link to here - but i would hold the right to clarify or correct anything that is related to my article.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification noxon.

Noxon, like myself, has an official promo copy. The warning about discussion is in regard to regular users, illegal downloads, etc.

As Noxon stated, we're going to start seeing reviews posted online at this time as it's getting closer to release.

So, Wey... when can we expect your review of the album?

This is about the only time I wouldn't want Wey's awesome job - I'd want to wait until the release to hear the album.