DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd!

SystematicChaos

There will be plenty of areas of discussion about the merits of the album by the Dream Theater die-hards. But taken as a whole, this is Dream Theater’s finest and most balanced album in a decade. If Systematic Chaos helped them to partially lose the cult band tag, then Black Clouds & Silver Linings with surely take them to the next level.

Isn't that too much saying?? That includes SDOIT!! :O

Yeah man, if this is better than 6 degrees I'll be a happy happy boy.

Soo.... when's the video of AROP comming out?? I need it!! Something to calm this anxiousness!! Pleaaaase!! Is there a realese date? Wey, Mike... please, tell us something!! (...more :D)

breaktheprisonwall


does anyone now of a site in the U.S. where i can purchase the Special Edition from that IS NOT Amazon (where it's listed as like $55....?)

I mean, i know i may have to pay like $25-30, but $55? come one...

any insight would be appreciated. 

Uh, that "like $55" one on Amazon is an IMPORT. Imports almost always have a high price. If you hold out a little while, they'll have the domestic version for a lower price. Also, as a side note, Amazon's prices for preorders usually fluctuate, often going quite a bit lower than the original price indicated, but they price guarantee preorders (which means you'll only be charged the lowest price the CD is listed at from the time you place the order until the order is shipped).

NobodyImportant

breaktheprisonwall


does anyone now of a site in the U.S. where i can purchase the Special Edition from that IS NOT Amazon (where it's listed as like $55....?)

I mean, i know i may have to pay like $25-30, but $55? come one...

any insight would be appreciated. 

Uh, that "like $55" one on Amazon is an IMPORT. Imports almost always have a high price. If you hold out a little while, they'll have the domestic version for a lower price. Also, as a side note, Amazon's prices for preorders usually fluctuate, often going quite a bit lower than the original price indicated, but they price guarantee preorders (which means you'll only be charged the lowest price the CD is listed at from the time you place the order until the order is shipped).

i understand that....i just mean is it available for preorder yet with the regulated U.S. price or not yet?

breaktheprisonwall

NobodyImportant

breaktheprisonwall


does anyone now of a site in the U.S. where i can purchase the Special Edition from that IS NOT Amazon (where it's listed as like $55....?)

I mean, i know i may have to pay like $25-30, but $55? come one...

any insight would be appreciated. 

Uh, that "like $55" one on Amazon is an IMPORT. Imports almost always have a high price. If you hold out a little while, they'll have the domestic version for a lower price. Also, as a side note, Amazon's prices for preorders usually fluctuate, often going quite a bit lower than the original price indicated, but they price guarantee preorders (which means you'll only be charged the lowest price the CD is listed at from the time you place the order until the order is shipped).

i understand that....i just mean is it available for preorder yet with the regulated U.S. price or not yet?

I've looked at a couple different sites, and so far I haven't seen it listed. It's not due out until June, so there's plenty time. I do imagine that it will be up fairly soon, though.

So, Rick. I bet I know what you're saying regarding the "growls". And yep, they must be terribly bad. How the band let that hideous thing come out? 

BenUK


My dad was a freemason, preety cool thing to sing about. From what I remember him telling me, they had a meeting like once a month, then got REALLY drunk and had an awesome meal :P

sounds like a perfic material for lyrics and song. " they talked and had a meal, a great super duper meeeeeall. thee rite of paaasage e e e e e e. Meeting every Sunday after church they eat, burger with fries. The rite of passaaaageeeeeeee..."
:D

gregj

BenUK


My dad was a freemason, preety cool thing to sing about. From what I remember him telling me, they had a meeting like once a month, then got REALLY drunk and had an awesome meal :P

sounds like a perfic material for lyrics and song. " they talked and had a meal, a great super duper meeeeeall. thee rite of paaasage e e e e e e. Meeting every Sunday after church they eat, burger with fries. The rite of passaaaageeeeeeee..."
:D

How awesome and funny isn´t that?

Don't want to fall on the negativiy side, but I'm not that excited for the album as of that review... I'm sure that as a whole the album may be awesome, but I'm concerned about the individual "controversial" sections...

Hey Rich,
As a point of reference, so I can better understand where you are coming from in your review, how would you rank previous Dream Theater albums?
Thanks,
Mark

I'd rather not read all the song descriptions yet as I'd like it to all be a wonderful surprise

GM5K


I'd rather not read all the song descriptions yet as I'd like it to all be a wonderful surprise

This, although it wets the appetite, I'd rather keep an open mind to the new album.

Hey all
I don't want to sound funny, but I don't really want to start getting into reviewing the album here. I always think it's best not to ruin the surprises. I did the Hammer review as they asked me. But trust me, it's an awesome album.

I am trying to find some parallels here, with previous album schedule. 
SC was out on June 4th, BC&SL are to be released roughly 3 weeks and two years later. 

"constant motion" was released as single, and free download for a bit from RR website on April 27th.
My vague guess is that we should expect similar event for new album around May 18th, if they follow the same sort of schedule that is.

But I still hope video and official single(s) is/are to be released sooner than that.

Oh, and on top of that covers. Yessss. :D

NobodyImportant

breaktheprisonwall

NobodyImportant

breaktheprisonwall


does anyone now of a site in the U.S. where i can purchase the Special Edition from that IS NOT Amazon (where it's listed as like $55....?)

I mean, i know i may have to pay like $25-30, but $55? come one...

any insight would be appreciated. 

Uh, that "like $55" one on Amazon is an IMPORT. Imports almost always have a high price. If you hold out a little while, they'll have the domestic version for a lower price. Also, as a side note, Amazon's prices for preorders usually fluctuate, often going quite a bit lower than the original price indicated, but they price guarantee preorders (which means you'll only be charged the lowest price the CD is listed at from the time you place the order until the order is shipped).

i understand that....i just mean is it available for preorder yet with the regulated U.S. price or not yet?

I've looked at a couple different sites, and so far I haven't seen it listed. It's not due out until June, so there's plenty time. I do imagine that it will be up fairly soon, though.

Amazon has another one up now for $31.99. It says it's an import too, though (but I have seen errors on preorder listings before). I went ahead and preordered it, but I will keep an eye out in case another version shows up at a lower price, in which case I'll cancel this order.

gregj


I am trying to find some parallels here, with previous album schedule. 
SC was out on June 4th, BC&SL are to be released roughly 3 weeks and two years later. 

"constant motion" was released as single, and free download for a bit from RR website on April 27th.
My vague guess is that we should expect similar event for new album around May 18th, if they follow the same sort of schedule that is.

But I still hope video and official single(s) is/are to be released sooner than that.

Oh, and on top of that covers. Yessss. :D

And to screw with you even more, Octavarium was released on June 7th '05. I saw DT on Gigantour in Dallas on August 2nd '05 and on August 2nd '07 on the Chaos in Motion tour.

T.J.H.

And to screw with you even more,...

you are doing terrible. 

T.J.H.

 Octavarium was released on June 7th '05. I saw DT on Gigantour in Dallas on August 2nd '05 and on August 2nd '07 on the Chaos in Motion tour.

and?

I am relating to RR era, sherlock.

gregj

T.J.H.

And to screw with you even more,...

you are doing terrible. 

T.J.H.

Octavarium was released on June 7th '05. I saw DT on Gigantour in Dallas on August 2nd '05 and on August 2nd '07 on the Chaos in Motion tour.

and?

I am relating to RR era, sherlock.

Ouch. Maybe my coffee hadn't kicked in yet.

Wasn't tryin to be rude or anything. Just throwing that out there cause I thought it was cool the last two ablums being released 2 years and two days apart and all.

I did notice that your post was related to singles being released and stuff.

So when does the first cover song come out? 12th May?

I suck at math. Though did I do some calculating on my own, and yeah may 12th seems to be the date!

So if "To Tame a Land" is uncovered on 12th, the interesting news will start from 19th.

I wish there was a pre-order link on iTunes, for covers album, but than - I guess they will have to reveal titles too, and man - where's the surprise than :)

exabyte


So if "To Tame a Land" is uncovered on 12th, the interesting news will start from 19th.

Please help me with that...

12th to 19th is a week. 

Hi... This is my first post here! And all I can say is: I CANT WAIT FOR THIS ALBUM!!

ResultsMayVary

Please help me with that...

I meant that as we already know which is one of the covers, it makes sense that it is uncovered during the first week, so we'll have to wait until the second week for the interesting stuff and the names of the covers we are anticipating. That said, "To Tame a Land" might be uncovered during the second or third week or something.

That review sounds fantastic but I absolutely will not let it influence my own unfolding of the music, nor will I allow
myself to compare it to any other DT album. I going to let it be what it is. I'm very excited though.

The New Guy


Don't want to fall on the negativiy side, but I'm not that excited for the album as of that review... I'm sure that as a whole the album may be awesome, but I'm concerned about the individual "controversial" sections...

This.
 
Just the growl thing tells me that they're continuing on the post-SFAM style. Hopefully I'll hear something I like. SC was the first album where I didn't like anything by them. I'd love to see a producer other than them. All IMO of course. I know most people love this and that's what counts.

jif26

This.
 
Just the growl thing tells me that they're continuing on the post-SFAM style. Hopefully I'll hear something I like. SC was the first album where I didn't like anything by them. I'd love to see a producer other than them. All IMO of course. I know most people love this and that's what counts.

I'll see your outside producer and raise you a writing session outside the studio, with demo's, and lyrics by Myung.

I have not been disappointed by any DT release yet and if this review is accurate in any way I will be a happy fan again. June 23rd cannot come sooner!!!

exabyte

I meant that as we already know which is one of the covers, ....

gregj

exabyte

I meant that as we already know which is one of the covers, ....

Mike mentioned in one of his interviews that one of the 6 covers is one that they released last year...
 
Iron Maiden cover for kerrang Magazine- "To Tame A Land"

Is this stuff about the uber-deluxe edition old news? On the description bit on the left side, about the DVD, mouse mat etc. Sounds interesting
 
http://roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/release/Black+Clouds+%26+Silver+Linings
 
 

Never heard of before, Mike didnt say anything about it in the orginal post, but maybe we´re lucky. If this is the case im quite happy with the 3cd, my own mixes doesnt appael to me but i guess very many people will enjoy it. But hey, im just speculating.

Though i dont feel so pumped for a mouse mat.

mini_monkey


Is this stuff about the uber-deluxe edition old news? On the description bit on the left side, about the DVD, mouse mat etc. Sounds interesting
 
http://roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/release/Black+Clouds+%26+Silver+Linings
 
 

I like the idea of the stem mixes thing.  Didn't JR say something about it in that long interview?

mini_monkey


Is this stuff about the uber-deluxe edition old news? On the description bit on the left side, about the DVD, mouse mat etc. Sounds interesting
 
http://roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/release/Black+Clouds+%26+Silver+Linings
 
 

now we can understand why the preorder link from amazon was so expensive! but, it says import, maybe the american version will be cheaper?

http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

cyberdrummer


http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

Nice read.

cyberdrummer


http://www.dtnorway.com/anmeldeser/35-anmeldelser/66-dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings.html

That review made me really excited for Wither, The Shattered Fortress (I love references to old riffs), and The Best of Times, but it pretty much did the opposite for the rest.  I'd say I was most looking forward to the Count of Tuscany since I love DT's epics, but this review makes it sound like it's some disjointed mishmash of riffs and song ideas.  Still, I can't wait to hear this bad boy.

PS - I really want to know what the lyrics to The Count of Tuscany are about...