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    MPfan45

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    Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 12:51 PM (permalink)
    It's totally gonna be Shattered Fortress to conclude the AA saga.  "Fortress" is in Glass Prison's lyrics, and how you hear the glass shatter at the end...totally!

    This is all going to be excellent, I nearly Frenched my roommate.
     
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      Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 1:48 PM (permalink)
      emtee


      So why do you guys think there are so many similarities to the Awake cover? Intentional or HS was given a vision by
      MP and this is just the way he brought the vision to life and the similarities are purely coincidental?
       
      Awake;
       
      Black and White except for the mirror.
      Majesty symbol on the ground.
      Space themed with planets etc.
      An old man looking from left to right into a mirror.
      A spider to the right of the mirror
       
      BC & SL
       
      Black and white except for the doorway.
      Majesty symbol on the ground.
      Space themed with planets etc.
      An elephant looking at a painting from right to left.
      A mouse to the right of the elephant.


      I don't know, but if the music is 1/2 as good as Awake, I might just spooge all over the dashboard of my car the first time I hear it

       
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        Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 2:05 PM (permalink)
        SWEET
         
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          Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 3:15 PM (permalink)
          ganpondorodf


          ^^^ Speaking of Death Magnetic, "A Nightmare to Remember" reminds me of "All Nightmare Long"


          Ya know, that was the first thing that came to my mind when I read the track list.
           
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            Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 3:52 PM (permalink)
            van Furlay


            Peter Mc

            My first thought when I saw Wither was that it would be an instrumental but as they're releasing a full cd of the songs in instrumental form (The JLB haters should be pleased) it would lessen the chances of having an instrumental on the album.

            I will wait until its released.
            So I won't go and make any assumtions here, but if there would be an instrumental on this album I guess they would put a nice different version of that instrumental song on the instrumental CD or something like that.
            As said I will just wait, but I think we shouldn't reason there won't be an instrumental because of an instrumental CD.
            Just a thought...

            Peter Mc

            Unlike many here I loved Systematic Chaos, it was my favourite DT album since SFAM but even I slightly cringe at the DARK MASTER section so I'm hoping the lyrics are a little more down to earth and maybe...

            Funny thing...
            I often read that people don't like that part.
            Up to now I like "In The Presence Of Enemies" best from SC and I like that part...

            Peter Mc

            ... just maybe we'll get a lyrical contribution from Myung (fingers crossed).

            Primarily I would love it if the new arrangements give him more space and there would be another solo as there was for example on "The Dance Of Eternity". That is not meant to depreciate any of their work they did in the past, but when he comes up with things like in "Metropolis Pt. 1" or even just a present (don't know if this is the right word in English) bass as for example in "Voices" I always love it...


            Just clear up, I am not making an assumption that there will definitely not be an instrumental (apart from the bonus disc!) just saying that it's less likely to happen. 
             
            I also really like ITPOE apart from the two DARK MASTER moments. 
             
            As for Myung, I quite enjoy his little solos in Metropolis Pt 1, TDOE and TGP so no problem with him taking a solo and I would love to hear more bass in the songs.  Primarily though, as Learning To Live and Trial Of Tears are two of my all time favourite songs, I'd love to see him get more involved in the songwriting this time.
             
            Also the guy who was moaning about the covers disc, I'm not really one to throw Never Enough into the equation (mostly as I don't like the song) as no one is above criticism but lets have a little gratitude.  They could have just put out the standard cd with 6 songs and left it there as most bands do but instead we've got a little bonus.  I understand that you'd like more new songs, as would we all but they're giving us an album full of new material which is all we really have a right to expect so anything else is a bonus and should be treated as such.
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              Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 4:58 PM (permalink)
              omg i just read this
               
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                Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 5:30 PM (permalink)
                Just pure excitment like everytime DT releases something new. It looks promising. I am going for the 3 - disc edition! :) 
                4 - 8 - 15 - 16 - 23 - 42 - Are you lost??
                 
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                  Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 9:57 PM (permalink)
                  Wait, people don't like the Dark Master parts? Those two choruses are for me clearly the highlights of SC...
                  The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.
                   
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                    Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Monday, March 16, 2009 11:36 PM (permalink)
                    I can't believe people are hoping the music will be similar to Awake just because the artwork is similar...
                    "Guys, I think I'm gunna change my look." - John Myung, 2004.
                     
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                      Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:25 AM (permalink)
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                      Kinda odd song titles, wich indicate we are still in the realm of fantasy lyrics I guess.  I love the album title though, conjures up interesting images and the artwork works in that direction.


                      Fantasy realm? Why of course...hince the name "Dream Theater."
                      Why would we want to hear the same old lyrics we hear on the radio
                      over and over. That is why I love Dream Theater...they are not afraid to write about anything.
                       
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                        Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:28 AM (permalink)
                        This is by far the coolest Dream Theater cover ever!
                        I listened to the samples and I have to say that
                        it is very possible that this could be the best Dream Theater album.
                        Images and Words, Awake, and Scenes From A Memory could possibly
                        move down my favorite Dream Theater albums list.
                         
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                          Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:29 AM (permalink)
                          It looks like Hugh Syme got it right first time, this time. Beautiful work, Hugh.

                           
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                            Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:06 AM (permalink)
                            This comes out on my son's first birthday! How cool is that? I'll buy him (read: me) the 3 disc special edition 

                            Shit... I think I just stepped in some page 1 spooge... 
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                              Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:03 AM (permalink)
                              SteveJohnson

                              It looks like Hugh Syme got it right first time, this time. Beautiful work, Hugh.


                              Well, if you ignore details like the tripod with four legs (and shadows for five legs, even!)
                              and the mouse (also, the broken bottle) not casting a long shadow like everything else,
                              you can say yes - then Hugh Syme definitely got it right the first time this time!
                               
                              Knowing how obsessed Mike usually is with little details I'm surprised he didn't mind (or notice) all that.

                               
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                                Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:22 AM (permalink)
                                Chen Zen


                                Wait, people don't like the Dark Master parts? Those two choruses are for me clearly the highlights of SC...


                                Musically, certainly...great impact, but lyrically...oh well
                                "To see the summer sky
                                is melodies.
                                Though never on a disc they die,
                                true music flees." - Emily Rockinson
                                 
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                                  Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:32 AM (permalink)
                                  Maybe he didn't notice it because it doesn't matter...

                                  Everyone around here freaks out about such minor stuff.

                                  "OH MY GOSH THE MOUSE DOESN'T HAVE A SHADOW!!! IT'S A NUGGET!!!  IT'S MEANT TO BE LIKE THAT!!!"

                                  I'm not specifically talking about any one person, I just think people around here in general dig too far into some of this stuff.  I love speculation just as much as any of you guys, I'm sure.  And golly gee, I'm excited for this album.  But whether or not a mouse has a shadow, or if a tripod is actually a quad-pod, or if the door has no knob, or if your grandmother was an elephant, it makes no difference to the music that is on the album.  Sorry to be a party-pooper, but come on dudez. 
                                  Also, I'm with whoever (I think it was Ink) said that just because the album cover resembles Awake's cover doesn't mean the music will sound anything like Awake.

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                                    Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:55 AM (permalink)
                                    This is what I get for not logging in for a few days. Last to know again.. June can't come fast enough now!
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                                      Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:47 AM (permalink)
                                      Peter Mc


                                      van Furlay


                                      Peter Mc

                                      My first thought when I saw Wither was that it would be an instrumental but as they're releasing a full cd of the songs in instrumental form (The JLB haters should be pleased) it would lessen the chances of having an instrumental on the album.

                                      I will wait until its released.
                                      So I won't go and make any assumtions here, but if there would be an instrumental on this album I guess they would put a nice different version of that instrumental song on the instrumental CD or something like that.
                                      As said I will just wait, but I think we shouldn't reason there won't be an instrumental because of an instrumental CD.
                                      Just a thought...

                                      Peter Mc

                                      Unlike many here I loved Systematic Chaos, it was my favourite DT album since SFAM but even I slightly cringe at the DARK MASTER section so I'm hoping the lyrics are a little more down to earth and maybe...

                                      Funny thing...
                                      I often read that people don't like that part.
                                      Up to now I like "In The Presence Of Enemies" best from SC and I like that part...

                                      Peter Mc

                                      ... just maybe we'll get a lyrical contribution from Myung (fingers crossed).

                                      Primarily I would love it if the new arrangements give him more space and there would be another solo as there was for example on "The Dance Of Eternity". That is not meant to depreciate any of their work they did in the past, but when he comes up with things like in "Metropolis Pt. 1" or even just a present (don't know if this is the right word in English) bass as for example in "Voices" I always love it...


                                      Just clear up, I am not making an assumption that there will definitely not be an instrumental (apart from the bonus disc!) just saying that it's less likely to happen. 
                                       
                                      I also really like ITPOE apart from the two DARK MASTER moments. 
                                       
                                      As for Myung, I quite enjoy his little solos in Metropolis Pt 1, TDOE and TGP so no problem with him taking a solo and I would love to hear more bass in the songs.  Primarily though, as Learning To Live and Trial Of Tears are two of my all time favourite songs, I'd love to see him get more involved in the songwriting this time.
                                       
                                      Also the guy who was moaning about the covers disc, I'm not really one to throw Never Enough into the equation (mostly as I don't like the song) as no one is above criticism but lets have a little gratitude.  They could have just put out the standard cd with 6 songs and left it there as most bands do but instead we've got a little bonus.  I understand that you'd like more new songs, as would we all but they're giving us an album full of new material which is all we really have a right to expect so anything else is a bonus and should be treated as such.

                                      That is what I wanted to say, primarily.
                                      And I guess "senor_valasco" is with me... [page 13]
                                       
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                                        Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:58 AM (permalink)
                                        Portnoy
                                        ...the album will also be available on vinyl LP...


                                        I FREAKIN LUV YA! :-O


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                                          Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:24 PM (permalink)
                                          did not check for DT for a week..been very busy....WHAT THERE'S A NEW ALBUM ALREADY..OH YEAH!!!
                                           
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                                            Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:22 PM (permalink)
                                            just another observation on the cover..

                                            4 moons
                                            4 living things (eagle, child, elephant, mouse)
                                            4 books
                                            4 other things (painting, bottle, door, brush)

                                            btw.. the bottle and the mouse doesn't have shadows..
                                             
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                                              Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:49 PM (permalink)
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                                              Ivo


                                              Am I the only one suprised by the fact that there are no references in all the titles to this beeing DT's tenth studio album?

                                              Besides the fact that I can't wait till 23 june to hear the whole 3 disc set, I can't wait to hear the final part in the AA saga. It's going to be a long wait for me!


                                              They already blew that load with Octavarium. After making such a fuzz about something as inane as 8+5=13, even bringing up the 10th album thing in the songs would be silly.


                                              Good point!
                                               
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                                                Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:52 PM (permalink)
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                                                My predictions for the 6 songs

                                                1. Yes Roundabout
                                                2. Metallica The Unforgiven
                                                3. Queen Love of my Life
                                                4. Rush XYZ
                                                5. Spocks Beard: The Light
                                                6. The Beatles: Dear Prudence

                                                What the heck is Rush XYZ? I know of YYZ but what is this XYZ? Is it a new instrumental?


                                                It's the upcoming Part X of the Gangster Of Boats Trilogy!


                                                Countered a Rush joke with an even more obscure Rush joke.  This is why I love this forum.


                                                Haha, I actually f*cked up there! I meant to say Part V (5), not X (10). But, oh well, at least some got a laugh out of it.
                                                <message edited by NobodyImportant on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:53 PM>
                                                 
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                                                  Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:21 PM (permalink)
                                                  I'd shoot myself in the leg if, for the 10th album, they did a self titled song. *cringes*
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                                                    Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:56 PM (permalink)
                                                    Black Clouds & Silver Linings - Black Holes & Revelations 

                                                    DT still Muse fans then .  Actually they are both very good album titles. Which album, however, will turn out to be better? To be honest I didn't rate very highly Muse's last release, so DT will hopefully win hands down! 
                                                     
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                                                      Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:07 AM (permalink)
                                                      mercury

                                                      Chen Zen

                                                      Wait, people don't like the Dark Master parts? Those two choruses are for me clearly the highlights of SC...

                                                      Musically, certainly...great impact, but lyrically...oh well


                                                      I thought they were musically rather campy as well. I like the actual melody (it
                                                      sounds great when played just by Jordan on piano earlier on), but the choruses
                                                      are overharmonized with everyone playing pretty much the same thing (which
                                                      already is the vocal melody). There's just so little going on there musically.

                                                       
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                                                        Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:15 AM (permalink)
                                                        that's the problem with people in general. 
                                                        They take shit too seriously . 
                                                        there's plenty of that sort of stuff in bible, yet - ppl read it and say they believe it :)
                                                        amazing, isn't

                                                         
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                                                          Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:27 AM (permalink)
                                                          Holy Crap, the artwork looks great. I'm very curious&excited about this!
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                                                            Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:58 AM (permalink)
                                                            Fucking great,
                                                            I love it.
                                                            Seems like it's gonna be a great album.
                                                            Gonna buy this baby the first day it hit the stores.
                                                             
                                                             
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                                                              Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:08 AM (permalink)
                                                               I'm really excited to hear this new album..!!!



                                                               
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                                                                Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:35 AM (permalink)
                                                                Chen Zen


                                                                Wait, people don't like the Dark Master parts? Those two choruses are for me clearly the highlights of SC...


                                                                i agree man.  i love that part too
                                                                 
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                                                                  Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:55 AM (permalink)
                                                                  For me, the Dark Master bits are a little bit of a guilty pleasure.  They're cheesy as Hell, but still awesome.

                                                                  When it comes in with the big JR string sound, it's just badass.

                                                                  But still pretty cheesy...
                                                                   
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                                                                    Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:05 AM (permalink)
                                                                    Chen Zen


                                                                    Wait, people don't like the Dark Master parts? Those two choruses are for me clearly the highlights of SC...


                                                                    cheesy...
                                                                     
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                                                                      Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:04 AM (permalink)
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                                                                      Chen Zen

                                                                      Wait, people don't like the Dark Master parts? Those two choruses are for me clearly the highlights of SC...

                                                                      Musically, certainly...great impact, but lyrically...oh well


                                                                      I thought they were musically rather campy as well. I like the actual melody (it
                                                                      sounds great when played just by Jordan on piano earlier on), but the choruses
                                                                      are overharmonized with everyone playing pretty much the same thing (which
                                                                      already is the vocal melody). There's just so little going on there musically.


                                                                      Spot-on observation, you are so right.
                                                                       
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                                                                        Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:14 AM (permalink)
                                                                        fantastic title! brilliant
                                                                         
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                                                                          Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:52 AM (permalink)
                                                                          ganpondorodf


                                                                          For me, the Dark Master bits are a little bit of a guilty pleasure.  They're cheesy as Hell, but still awesome.

                                                                          When it comes in with the big JR string sound, it's just badass.

                                                                          But still pretty cheesy...


                                                                          Exactly.  When it comes to those part I go to my evil voice and scream along with it
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                                                                            Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:54 AM (permalink)
                                                                            Ink

                                                                            I can't believe people are hoping the music will be similar to Awake just because the artwork is similar...


                                                                            This. It always baffles me when a band reveals a cover and title songs. That doesn't mean squat about the music aside from the number of songs that'll be on the album.
                                                                             
                                                                            I'm anticipating an SC part 2 style. Please let my pessimism be wrong.
                                                                             
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                                                                              Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:10 PM (permalink)
                                                                              Yeah!
                                                                              Waiting for the single.
                                                                               
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                                                                                Re:DREAM THEATER - BLACK CLOUDS & SILVER LININGS - Coming June 23rd! Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:12 PM (permalink)
                                                                                I want to know what song that "I lay half awake" harmony's in.  I imagine it'll be The Best of Times, but who knows.

                                                                                It sounds awesome though.
                                                                                 
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