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    MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:05 PM (permalink)
    This was a side-bar I was asked to write for the June '08 issue of Metal Edge magazine.
    Being the issue has now come and gone, I figured I'd reprint it here for you all to enjoy in case you missed it!
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    MIKE PORTNOY'S GUIDE TO MODERN PROG

    This is a general list of the some of the bands and sub-genres that have spawned in progressive music through the years. Of course in many cases, many of the bands and their influences easily blur the lines and cross over into each of the other different sub-genre. 

     
    1. OPETH
    Type of Prog: Death Metal, Psychedlic, Goth 

    Our tour-mates on PN08, Sweden's Opeth are carrying the torch for daring & experimental music in the modern Death Metal genre. Guitarist/Vocalist/Leader Mikael's Akerfeldt's death growls may be something to get used to for the Yes-loving prog purist, but when he sings clean, his voice and melodies bring back memories of Justin Hayward and John Wetton in their heydays and can send shivers down your spine. Their combination of BRUTAL deathly riffs and BEAUTIFUL haunting moods have inspired me to coin a whole new phrase to describe their sound: BRUTIFUL! 

    Trace their roots to: Black Sabbath, King Crimson, Camel, Judas Priest, Tool 

    Also check out: Cynic, Death, Mastodon, Isis, Baroness 

    2. BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME
    Type of Prog: Avant Garde, Technical, Mathcore

    BTBAM are part of a whole new wave of extreme, over-the-top metalcore progressive music.

    Their latest CD "Colors" is a 60-minute metal masterpiece of moods, technique and amazing musicianship. I love this album so much, it immediately captured them a spot on our inaugural Prog Nation tour. And although they are way more extreme than DT, their acrobatic musicianship makes them the most similar to Dream Theater of all the bands on the PN08 bill.

    Trace their roots to: Rush, Watchtower, Meshuggah, Mr. Bungle, Naked City

    Also check out: Unexpect, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Hella, Behold The Arctopus

    3. SYMPHONY X
    Type of Prog: Hard Rock, Symphonic, Neo Classical

    Symphony X are leading the way for the more "traditional" progressive metal bands that have naturally followed in the wake of Dream Theater's success in the early 90's. A combination of virtuoso musicianship led by guitarist Michael Romeo (think Yngwie) and the incredibly powerful voice of Russell Allen (think Dio meets Steve Walsh), Symphony X were hand picked by yours truly to join the Gigantour bill in 2005 (Dave Mustaine asked me to pick a band for that tour) as well as to join DT as our special guests for our entire European tour in 2007.

    Trace their roots to: Rainbow, Yngwie Malmsteen, Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Fates Warning

    Also check out: Protest The Hero, Dragon Force, Avenged Sevenfold, Pain Of Salvation, Into Eternity

    4. PORCUPINE TREE
    Type of Prog: Alternative, Ambient, Pop 

    Drawing from the more pop, alternative and ambient elements of progressive music and less from the bombastic and metal side, Porcupine Tree are leading the way for creating music that is moody and experimental while still being incredibly melodic and musical. Having opened for DT in Europe during our Metropolis 2000 tour, I am happy to see their career continue to grow and develop with each release.  

    Trace their roots to: Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Marillion, Radiohead, Muse

    Also check out: Oceansize, Riverside, Anathema, The Dear Hunter, OSI

    5. BEARDFISH
    Type of Prog: Traditional, Retro, Classic Prog 

    Sweden's Beardfish are my favorite "new" band with an "old" sound. Utilizing all of the classic styles and sounds of the original progessive rock bands of the 70's (mellotron, hammond organ, leslies, clean guitars, dry organic drums, etc.), these guys are making music for the folks who truly miss the classic bands that started this whole genre. Check out their latest releases "Sleeping in Traffic - Parts 1 & 2" and you'll swear it's 1973 all over again! 

    Trace their roots to: Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Frank Zappa 

    Also check out: Magic Pie, The Flower Kings, Anekdoten, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic

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      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:07 PM (permalink)
      Right on.

      Really, I just wanted to be the first to respond to one of Mike's threads (and it would appear am).
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        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:14 PM (permalink)
        I really want to hear some Beardfish, I've heard of them just never heard any of their music.
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          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:15 PM (permalink)
          Awesome, thanks Mike
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            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:17 PM (permalink)
            Nice review!
            I will check Beardfish, hadn't heard anything from them before.
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              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:20 PM (permalink)
              Honestly Mike... Your knowledge of prog both classic and modern seems to be ENDLESS!!!!!

              These are the same bands from 'Dream Theater's Guide To Prog Metal' which was in Classic Rock Magazine a couple of months ago I seem to remember. I don't know what Metal Edge is though I assume it's the American equivalent of Metal Hammer or Terrorizer...

              I'm actually a sucker for neo-prog but I'm yet to discover Beardfish

              So Thankyou Mike, good stuff
              Some future faces of prog :)
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                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:31 PM (permalink)
                nothing about the band "Three"?
                 
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                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:35 PM (permalink)
                  Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.
                   
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                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 2:39 PM (permalink)
                    Pain of Salvation?! Hello?! That's a great list and great read. Thanks for sharing.
                     
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                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 3:01 PM (permalink)
                      3 of those bands I'm already into (SX, PT and especially), but it was a great read, good to see the "roots/also check out" aswell. Brutiful, genius! That's one to remember Mike. Thanks for posting. 
                       
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                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 3:17 PM (permalink)

                        ORIGINAL: szabiakanich

                        Pain of Salvation?! Hello?! That's a great list and great read. Thanks for sharing.


                        My thoughts exactly!
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                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 3:25 PM (permalink)
                          Great Article.
                           
                          As MP mentioned, it was a side bar article. Trying to add every great Prog band would take up too much space. If it as a full article, then yeah, it would work perfectly.
                           
                          I really like it. It showcases all the sides of Prog that's currently going on.
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                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 3:31 PM (permalink)

                            ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

                            Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.

                             
                            Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                             
                            Beardfish
                            Opeth
                            Pain Of Salvation
                            Anekdoten
                            The Flower Kings
                            Meshuggah
                            Yngwie Malmsteen
                             
                            Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!
                             
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                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 3:44 PM (permalink)
                              Looks like I have to check out Beardfish and Anekdoten.
                               
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                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 4:04 PM (permalink)
                                Beardfish (along with all those other Swedish bands mentioned, and many more not mentioned) are so damn good.  At NEARfest I asked MP if he had been "South of the Border" lately and for a second he looked puzzled until he realized I was talking about the band on his shirt.  He was wearing a Beardfish shirt at the time.
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                                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18 PM (permalink)

                                  ORIGINAL: Portnoy


                                  ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

                                  Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


                                  Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                   
                                  Beardfish
                                  Opeth
                                  Pain Of Salvation
                                  Anekdoten
                                  The Flower Kings
                                  Meshuggah
                                  Yngwie Malmsteen
                                   
                                  Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                  MP 


                                  The other bands lack street cred because they aren't swedish
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                                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 4:40 PM (permalink)
                                    Nice!
                                    I see Magic Pie under the "see also" on Beardfish.
                                    I know those guys! I wonder what MP thinks about them?
                                     
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                                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 4:50 PM (permalink)
                                      Hmm...I've never heard of Beardfish before. Guess I'll be checking them out

                                      I also like how all of these bands have prog and metal elements but each have certain qualities that make them unique.


                                       
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                                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 4:52 PM (permalink)

                                        ORIGINAL: Portnoy


                                        ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

                                        Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


                                        Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                         
                                        Beardfish
                                        Opeth
                                        Pain Of Salvation
                                        Anekdoten
                                        The Flower Kings
                                        Meshuggah
                                        Yngwie Malmsteen
                                         
                                        Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                        MP 


                                        Just wait 'till you hear the new Freak Kitchen album. The snippets I've heard are some of the best shizznizzle I've heard in a long time. They seem to be on a whole new level of awesomeness!
                                         
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                                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 4:57 PM (permalink)

                                          Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                           
                                          Beardfish
                                          Opeth
                                          Pain Of Salvation
                                          Anekdoten
                                          The Flower Kings
                                          Meshuggah
                                          Yngwie Malmsteen
                                           
                                          Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                          MP 

                                           
                                          Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!
                                           
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                                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 5:01 PM (permalink)
                                            cool to see Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Behold the Arctopus mentioned in the article.
                                             
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                                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 5:10 PM (permalink)

                                              ORIGINAL: Kazie


                                              Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                               
                                              Beardfish
                                              Opeth
                                              Pain Of Salvation
                                              Anekdoten
                                              The Flower Kings
                                              Meshuggah
                                              Yngwie Malmsteen
                                               
                                              Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                              MP 


                                              Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!

                                               
                                              What about SCAR SYMMETRY?  By far my favorite recent discovery.
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                                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 5:31 PM (permalink)
                                                Sweet, those are cool choices!
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                                                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 5:57 PM (permalink)
                                                  Cool article Mike.  One other new band that you might enjoy from the traiditional, retro, classic prog sub-genre is Moth Vellum out of California.  Great Yes/Genesis inspired band with vocals reminiscent of Geddy Lee. 
                                                   
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                                                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 6:16 PM (permalink)
                                                    nice band-name dropping Mike!..the only thing I was a bit surprised to see Protest the Hero mentioned under Symphony X and NOT Between the Buried and Me. When I 1st got into PtH late last year, it may have had to do with coming on the heals of becoming a BTBAM fanboy, but the band PtH reminded most of was definitely BTBAM..altho the bands compared there make sense, I just have always got the sense about those 2 together and the large crossover in fanbases in the 2.





                                                     
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                                                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 6:46 PM (permalink)
                                                      Damn, I wanted to see you attempt a full description of PoS and who they sound like

                                                       
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                                                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 6:47 PM (permalink)

                                                        ORIGINAL: edsmythe


                                                        ORIGINAL: Kazie


                                                        Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                                         
                                                        Beardfish
                                                        Opeth
                                                        Pain Of Salvation
                                                        Anekdoten
                                                        The Flower Kings
                                                        Meshuggah
                                                        Yngwie Malmsteen
                                                         
                                                        Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                                        MP 


                                                        Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!


                                                        What about SCAR SYMMETRY?  By far my favorite recent discovery.

                                                         
                                                        Indeed, Scar Symmetry is another Swedish gem. Their newest album, Holographic Universe is by far, my favorite album this year.
                                                         
                                                        But let's not forget Evergrey.
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                                                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 PM (permalink)
                                                          For all that like Opeth, check out In Mourning - yet another great band from Sweden.

                                                          http://www.inmourning.net
                                                           
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                                                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 7:39 PM (permalink)
                                                            Mike is a fan like all of us :> (except he has benefits =D)
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                                                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 7:44 PM (permalink)
                                                              Pretty cool article! But...


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                                                              3. SYMPHONY X
                                                              Trace their roots to: Rainbow, Yngwie Malmsteen, Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Fates Warning


                                                              I really don't hear Fates Warning in their style at all. My pick would've been Kansas,
                                                              which I find pretty obvious - right down to the shameless borrowing from Song for
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                                                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 8:09 PM (permalink)

                                                                ORIGINAL: Portnoy


                                                                ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

                                                                Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


                                                                Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                                                 
                                                                Beardfish
                                                                Opeth
                                                                Pain Of Salvation
                                                                Anekdoten
                                                                The Flower Kings
                                                                Meshuggah
                                                                Yngwie Malmsteen
                                                                 Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!
                                                                MP 

                                                                 
                                                                And nearly thirty other band references to boot - there's another I Pod that's worn out, not to mention thyne ears
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                                                                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 8:51 PM (permalink)
                                                                  The fact that you mentioned the Dear Hunter is fucking sweet. Do you really like the Dear Hunter or are you just putting them on there to look cool?
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                                                                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 8:56 PM (permalink)
                                                                    Welcome back to your Forum MP 

                                                                    I couldnt agree more with your list
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                                                                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 10:01 PM (permalink)
                                                                      On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   
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                                                                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, August 29, 2008 10:35 PM (permalink)
                                                                        WOW !
                                                                        Thanks Mike !
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                                                                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:14 AM (permalink)

                                                                          ORIGINAL: A Change of Stevens

                                                                          On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   


                                                                          Porcupine Tree's late 90s material was clearly influenced by The Bends and OK Computer.  On the other hand, considering that Muse didn't hit the scene until '99, I don't see how in the world you could trace Porcupine Tree's roots to them.  I don't know anyone who has ever said that PT and Muse sound similar, anyway.
                                                                           
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                                                                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:01 AM (permalink)

                                                                            ORIGINAL: HomerJ


                                                                            ORIGINAL: A Change of Stevens

                                                                            On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   


                                                                            Porcupine Tree's late 90s material was clearly influenced by The Bends and OK Computer.  On the other hand, considering that Muse didn't hit the scene until '99, I don't see how in the world you could trace Porcupine Tree's roots to them.  I don't know anyone who has ever said that PT and Muse sound similar, anyway.


                                                                            yeah i read that and i was like ... huh?
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                                                                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:26 AM (permalink)
                                                                              Great review MP! 

                                                                               
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                                                                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:56 AM (permalink)
                                                                                awesome!!!! and totally my kind of thing...
                                                                                 
                                                                                during the last few months I've seen all of the main bands except beardfish + yngwie + flower kings  ... meshuggah's playin vienna in a few weeks + opeth again for christmas  ..guess I'm lucky !!!
                                                                                must've been hungry when I chose my profile name
                                                                                 
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