MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge

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MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:05 PM
This was a side-bar I was asked to write for the June '08 issue of Metal Edge magazine.
Being the issue has now come and gone, I figured I'd reprint it here for you all to enjoy in case you missed it!
MP
 
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MIKE PORTNOY'S GUIDE TO MODERN PROG

This is a general list of the some of the bands and sub-genres that have spawned in progressive music through the years. Of course in many cases, many of the bands and their influences easily blur the lines and cross over into each of the other different sub-genre. 

 
1. OPETH
Type of Prog: Death Metal, Psychedlic, Goth 

Our tour-mates on PN08, Sweden's Opeth are carrying the torch for daring & experimental music in the modern Death Metal genre. Guitarist/Vocalist/Leader Mikael's Akerfeldt's death growls may be something to get used to for the Yes-loving prog purist, but when he sings clean, his voice and melodies bring back memories of Justin Hayward and John Wetton in their heydays and can send shivers down your spine. Their combination of BRUTAL deathly riffs and BEAUTIFUL haunting moods have inspired me to coin a whole new phrase to describe their sound: BRUTIFUL! 

Trace their roots to: Black Sabbath, King Crimson, Camel, Judas Priest, Tool 

Also check out: Cynic, Death, Mastodon, Isis, Baroness 

2. BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME
Type of Prog: Avant Garde, Technical, Mathcore

BTBAM are part of a whole new wave of extreme, over-the-top metalcore progressive music.

Their latest CD "Colors" is a 60-minute metal masterpiece of moods, technique and amazing musicianship. I love this album so much, it immediately captured them a spot on our inaugural Prog Nation tour. And although they are way more extreme than DT, their acrobatic musicianship makes them the most similar to Dream Theater of all the bands on the PN08 bill.

Trace their roots to: Rush, Watchtower, Meshuggah, Mr. Bungle, Naked City

Also check out: Unexpect, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Hella, Behold The Arctopus

3. SYMPHONY X
Type of Prog: Hard Rock, Symphonic, Neo Classical

Symphony X are leading the way for the more "traditional" progressive metal bands that have naturally followed in the wake of Dream Theater's success in the early 90's. A combination of virtuoso musicianship led by guitarist Michael Romeo (think Yngwie) and the incredibly powerful voice of Russell Allen (think Dio meets Steve Walsh), Symphony X were hand picked by yours truly to join the Gigantour bill in 2005 (Dave Mustaine asked me to pick a band for that tour) as well as to join DT as our special guests for our entire European tour in 2007.

Trace their roots to: Rainbow, Yngwie Malmsteen, Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Fates Warning

Also check out: Protest The Hero, Dragon Force, Avenged Sevenfold, Pain Of Salvation, Into Eternity

4. PORCUPINE TREE
Type of Prog: Alternative, Ambient, Pop 

Drawing from the more pop, alternative and ambient elements of progressive music and less from the bombastic and metal side, Porcupine Tree are leading the way for creating music that is moody and experimental while still being incredibly melodic and musical. Having opened for DT in Europe during our Metropolis 2000 tour, I am happy to see their career continue to grow and develop with each release.  

Trace their roots to: Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Marillion, Radiohead, Muse

Also check out: Oceansize, Riverside, Anathema, The Dear Hunter, OSI

5. BEARDFISH
Type of Prog: Traditional, Retro, Classic Prog 

Sweden's Beardfish are my favorite "new" band with an "old" sound. Utilizing all of the classic styles and sounds of the original progessive rock bands of the 70's (mellotron, hammond organ, leslies, clean guitars, dry organic drums, etc.), these guys are making music for the folks who truly miss the classic bands that started this whole genre. Check out their latest releases "Sleeping in Traffic - Parts 1 & 2" and you'll swear it's 1973 all over again! 

Trace their roots to: Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Frank Zappa 

Also check out: Magic Pie, The Flower Kings, Anekdoten, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:07 PM
Right on.

Really, I just wanted to be the first to respond to one of Mike's threads (and it would appear am).
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:14 PM
I really want to hear some Beardfish, I've heard of them just never heard any of their music.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:15 PM
Awesome, thanks Mike
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:17 PM
Nice review!
I will check Beardfish, hadn't heard anything from them before.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:20 PM
Honestly Mike... Your knowledge of prog both classic and modern seems to be ENDLESS!!!!!

These are the same bands from 'Dream Theater's Guide To Prog Metal' which was in Classic Rock Magazine a couple of months ago I seem to remember. I don't know what Metal Edge is though I assume it's the American equivalent of Metal Hammer or Terrorizer...

I'm actually a sucker for neo-prog but I'm yet to discover Beardfish

So Thankyou Mike, good stuff
Some future faces of prog :)
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:31 PM
nothing about the band "Three"?

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:35 PM
Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 2:39 PM
Pain of Salvation?! Hello?! That's a great list and great read. Thanks for sharing.


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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 3:01 PM
3 of those bands I'm already into (SX, PT and especially), but it was a great read, good to see the "roots/also check out" aswell. Brutiful, genius! That's one to remember Mike. Thanks for posting. 

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 3:17 PM

ORIGINAL: szabiakanich

Pain of Salvation?! Hello?! That's a great list and great read. Thanks for sharing.


My thoughts exactly!
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 3:25 PM
Great Article.
 
As MP mentioned, it was a side bar article. Trying to add every great Prog band would take up too much space. If it as a full article, then yeah, it would work perfectly.
 
I really like it. It showcases all the sides of Prog that's currently going on.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 3:31 PM

ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.

 
Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!
 
MP 

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 3:44 PM
Looks like I have to check out Beardfish and Anekdoten.
 
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:04 PM
Beardfish (along with all those other Swedish bands mentioned, and many more not mentioned) are so damn good.  At NEARfest I asked MP if he had been "South of the Border" lately and for a second he looked puzzled until he realized I was talking about the band on his shirt.  He was wearing a Beardfish shirt at the time.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18 PM

ORIGINAL: Portnoy


ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 


The other bands lack street cred because they aren't swedish

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:40 PM
Nice!
I see Magic Pie under the "see also" on Beardfish.
I know those guys! I wonder what MP thinks about them?

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:50 PM
Hmm...I've never heard of Beardfish before. Guess I'll be checking them out

I also like how all of these bands have prog and metal elements but each have certain qualities that make them unique.



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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:52 PM

ORIGINAL: Portnoy


ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 


Just wait 'till you hear the new Freak Kitchen album. The snippets I've heard are some of the best shizznizzle I've heard in a long time. They seem to be on a whole new level of awesomeness!

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:57 PM

Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 

 
Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 5:01 PM
cool to see Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Behold the Arctopus mentioned in the article.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 5:10 PM

ORIGINAL: Kazie


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 


Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!

 
What about SCAR SYMMETRY?  By far my favorite recent discovery.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 5:31 PM
Sweet, those are cool choices!
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 5:57 PM
Cool article Mike.  One other new band that you might enjoy from the traiditional, retro, classic prog sub-genre is Moth Vellum out of California.  Great Yes/Genesis inspired band with vocals reminiscent of Geddy Lee. 

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 6:16 PM
nice band-name dropping Mike!..the only thing I was a bit surprised to see Protest the Hero mentioned under Symphony X and NOT Between the Buried and Me. When I 1st got into PtH late last year, it may have had to do with coming on the heals of becoming a BTBAM fanboy, but the band PtH reminded most of was definitely BTBAM..altho the bands compared there make sense, I just have always got the sense about those 2 together and the large crossover in fanbases in the 2.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 6:46 PM
Damn, I wanted to see you attempt a full description of PoS and who they sound like
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 6:47 PM

ORIGINAL: edsmythe


ORIGINAL: Kazie


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 


Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!


What about SCAR SYMMETRY?  By far my favorite recent discovery.

 
Indeed, Scar Symmetry is another Swedish gem. Their newest album, Holographic Universe is by far, my favorite album this year.
 
But let's not forget Evergrey.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 PM
For all that like Opeth, check out In Mourning - yet another great band from Sweden.

http://www.inmourning.net

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 7:39 PM
Mike is a fan like all of us :> (except he has benefits =D)
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 7:44 PM
Pretty cool article! But...


ORIGINAL: Portnoy
3. SYMPHONY X
Trace their roots to: Rainbow, Yngwie Malmsteen, Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Fates Warning


I really don't hear Fates Warning in their style at all. My pick would've been Kansas,
which I find pretty obvious - right down to the shameless borrowing from Song for
America in Rediscovery Part II (on V - The New Mythology Suite).

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 8:09 PM

ORIGINAL: Portnoy


ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!
MP 

 
And nearly thirty other band references to boot - there's another I Pod that's worn out, not to mention thyne ears
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 8:51 PM
The fact that you mentioned the Dear Hunter is fucking sweet. Do you really like the Dear Hunter or are you just putting them on there to look cool?

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 8:56 PM
Welcome back to your Forum MP 

I couldnt agree more with your list
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 10:01 PM
On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, August 29, 2008 10:35 PM
WOW !
Thanks Mike !
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:14 AM

ORIGINAL: A Change of Stevens

On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   


Porcupine Tree's late 90s material was clearly influenced by The Bends and OK Computer.  On the other hand, considering that Muse didn't hit the scene until '99, I don't see how in the world you could trace Porcupine Tree's roots to them.  I don't know anyone who has ever said that PT and Muse sound similar, anyway.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:01 AM

ORIGINAL: HomerJ


ORIGINAL: A Change of Stevens

On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   


Porcupine Tree's late 90s material was clearly influenced by The Bends and OK Computer.  On the other hand, considering that Muse didn't hit the scene until '99, I don't see how in the world you could trace Porcupine Tree's roots to them.  I don't know anyone who has ever said that PT and Muse sound similar, anyway.


yeah i read that and i was like ... huh?
  

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:26 AM
Great review MP! 


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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:56 AM
awesome!!!! and totally my kind of thing...
 
during the last few months I've seen all of the main bands except beardfish + yngwie + flower kings  ... meshuggah's playin vienna in a few weeks + opeth again for christmas  ..guess I'm lucky !!!
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:21 AM
Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:07 AM

ORIGINAL: TrueSagan

Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.


Listen to everything BUT the vocals. Especially the guitars.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:28 AM
Hmm, very good article and selections by the man himself. Maybe we can add some a little salt to the soup with these:

Unexpect : They've the sick, avantgarde and the progressive approach of course, but be aware they're not for everybody's cup of coffee (i think somebody used that line before :p)

Pure Reason Revolution : Following the footprints of Porcupine Tree, they have a really powerful sound & amazing compositions where it takes you from the metalic riffs to the melodic clean chrous. Their The Dark Third album is a must have for everyone on here.

The Mars Volta : Despite their latest album wasn't good as the two, these guys bring back the old fashion progressive sound like Beardfish&Spock's Beard&etc (espcially for the vocals) And they are the progressive version of Led Zepplin in the millenium

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:05 AM
Good list to keep in mind for the next cd buying binge
Gonna have to add space AGAIN in my dvd drawer for DT's newest one, between DT and all the MP drum dvds, space is getting hard to find
Saw Symphony X  3 times (once in Madrid)last year and they're always great to see too.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:47 PM
Some awesome reccomendatons.
 
Love the fact that you mention Death and Cynic.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:08 PM

ORIGINAL: TrueSagan

Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.


Me neither. They sound emo to me. I bought colours because everyone was having fits over it. I've never been able to make it through the whole album. I do like the drums though. Can't stand the singing, songs or guitars. Not my cuppa.


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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:08 PM
Symphony X are a wicked live band, though I feel they have more in common with the old 80s heavy metal like Dio...

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:24 PM
Well well, thanks to this I have discovered Beardfish and they are quite a band to check out.
Thanks Mike. :)

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:51 PM


Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!


What about SCAR SYMMETRY?  By far my favorite recent discovery.


Indeed, Scar Symmetry is another Swedish gem. Their newest album, Holographic Universe is by far, my favorite album this year.

Agreed it's one awesome cd like their others , but I am enjoying the new Into Eternity.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:04 PM

ORIGINAL: kevdog

Looks like I have to check out Beardfish and Anekdoten.


 
You should certainly check out Beardfish.
 
But - I'm sure MP would agree, its a different world. A different vibe. If you love the old style Hammond driven music, check out Beardfish, or even Rikard's other band; Bootcut.
 
I can see the makings of a new Supergroup here. MP - Give Rikard a call ;)
 
 

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:26 PM
Well Mike... with summer drawing to a close it sounds as if you just might be starting to gear up and get back at it... back on July 11 you hinted that the first order of business would be the LTE DVD & CD  along with an Octerberish return to the studio for DT... you also hinted that either sometime 'before' or 'after', the next YTSEJAM batch might get some attention... Do you know yet if it will be a thumbs-up "Before"   or kind of a thumbs-down "After"  !!! Just wondering...!!! Hope your summer time off was a blast.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:50 AM

ORIGINAL: nant

Well well, thanks to this I have discovered Beardfish and they are quite a band to check out.
Thanks Mike. :)


Same here. At the moment, my next batch of CDs on its way will include Phideaux's Doomsday Afternoon, The Tangent's Not as Good as the Book (with the book, I am an English major after all), and the Beardfish Sleeping in Traffic albums. A very exciting haul. I can't wait to send out for it. That's a lot of music, and great music at that.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:06 AM

ORIGINAL: Portnoy


ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 

 
Glad to see you like the music from our country, I can only say I agree. Fact is I'm very proud to say just weeks ago I recorded in the Beardfish studio and both them and Scar Symmetry are from my hometown! Cool to see that people here know about them!
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:36 AM

ORIGINAL: ricosuave


ORIGINAL: TrueSagan

Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.


Listen to everything BUT the vocals. Especially the guitars.


I have nothing against the vocals, i'm sure many people like them. It's the same with james probably, I'm sure many people would take BtBaM vocals over James any time. They're just not my style, I think they ruin the whole atmosphere of the songs. Spiral Architect did tech metal and still managed to have good wailing vocals. I like Akerfeldt's Opeth vocals a lot, for example, but they say a lot more to me than Tommy Rogers' vocals.

I'd rather take Circus Maximus as an important modern prog band over BtBaM. BtBaM has always come across as more of a hardcore/math metal band to me, than a progressive one.

For me, my main 5 favorite modern prog are DT, Opeth, Pagan's Mind, Ayreon and Blind Guardian (who are originally a power metal band but recently very progressive). In fact it's strange to me that Mike didn't mention Ayreon since he has so many albums out and it's such an elaborate and awesome project. I would say they are way way above even DT sometimes, just brilliant music and wonderfully produced.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:17 AM
WTF is "mathcore"? 
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:07 AM

ORIGINAL: DTD

WTF is "mathcore"? 


It's like death metal but eeeeeeeeeeeeeven cheesier...
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:59 PM
So Mike has noticed Baroness as well... nice.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:25 PM

ORIGINAL: Chen Zen


ORIGINAL: DTD

WTF is "mathcore"? 


It's like death metal but eeeeeeeeeeeeeven cheesier...


BTBAM is referred to as "deathcore" on wikipedia, though.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:00 PM

BEARDFISH

ORIGINAL: Portnoy


ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 


Thanks for the article!

But...Dungen.  DUNGEN!

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:05 PM
I have that issue!
My cup overflows.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:41 PM
Well said MP....
  

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:55 PM
Oh...he mentioned Beardfish! SITT pt. 1 is one of the most wonderful 70´s-influenced-records i´ve ever heard! 
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Monday, September 01, 2008 7:54 PM
who am i to argue with The man himself, but Symphony x and Pain of Salvation under the same roots?

isn't PoS more Beardfish as The Flower kings is?
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:42 PM

ORIGINAL: yitseyjamm


ORIGINAL: HomerJ


ORIGINAL: A Change of Stevens

On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   


Porcupine Tree's late 90s material was clearly influenced by The Bends and OK Computer.  On the other hand, considering that Muse didn't hit the scene until '99, I don't see how in the world you could trace Porcupine Tree's roots to them.  I don't know anyone who has ever said that PT and Muse sound similar, anyway.


yeah i read that and i was like ... huh?


Yep.  Agreed.  Even their recent work really has very little connection to Muse.

And PT are just in a different league to Muse anyway.
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:30 PM
yeah, i kinda agree with this last item, hail for including dillinger escape plan on try out

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:23 PM

Just wait 'till you hear the new Freak Kitchen album. The snippets I've heard are some of the best shizznizzle I've heard in a long time. They seem to be on a whole new level of awesomeness!


 
Didn't know there was a new Freak Kitchen album on the way....
Sweet.    Have they announced an official release date yet?
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, September 05, 2008 11:16 AM
Thanks Mike, willdefinately checkout Beardfish.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, September 05, 2008 2:06 PM


ORIGINAL: Portnoy


ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP 



Not to quibble with The Man, but I'd just like to say that Kaipa belongs on any list of the best Swedish prog bands around right now. Their output since they got back together has been nothing short of magical, IMO.



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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Friday, September 05, 2008 5:03 PM


ORIGINAL: The Siamese Monster

Oh...he mentioned Beardfish! SITT pt. 1 is one of the most wonderful 70´s-influenced-records i´ve ever heard! 


This just arrived today. I'm liking it a lot, even though I haven't run across quite as much fun wildness like in Part 2, as I was hoping...
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:19 PM
nice, don't know some of these bands, so i'll check them!! thanks mp
  

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM
Excellent! Hopefully there might be another cool bands out there that are not well recognized yet. Symphony X, Porcupine Tree and Pain of Salvation are my favorites.

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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Monday, September 08, 2008 11:12 AM

Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
 
Beardfish
Opeth
Pain Of Salvation
Anekdoten
The Flower Kings
Meshuggah
Yngwie Malmsteen
 
Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

MP

 
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:34 PM
Porcupine Tree makes me feel the weight in my legs XD
(Anesthetize is all)

I never listen Opeth, better I hear some songs...
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RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge - Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:35 PM


ORIGINAL: Casaroli

who am i to argue with The man himself, but Symphony x and Pain of Salvation under the same roots?

isn't PoS more Beardfish as The Flower kings is?



Indeed, what do SX have to do with PoS? I'm surprised that only a few seem to have noticed this.. What were you thinking Mike??

Anyway, I'm glad to see so many Swedish bands being mentioned, I guess you have a pretty decent taste after all