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    TrueSagan

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    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:21 AM (permalink)
    Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.
     
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      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:07 AM (permalink)

      ORIGINAL: TrueSagan

      Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.


      Listen to everything BUT the vocals. Especially the guitars.
       
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        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:28 AM (permalink)
        Hmm, very good article and selections by the man himself. Maybe we can add some a little salt to the soup with these:

        Unexpect : They've the sick, avantgarde and the progressive approach of course, but be aware they're not for everybody's cup of coffee (i think somebody used that line before :p)

        Pure Reason Revolution : Following the footprints of Porcupine Tree, they have a really powerful sound & amazing compositions where it takes you from the metalic riffs to the melodic clean chrous. Their The Dark Third album is a must have for everyone on here.

        The Mars Volta : Despite their latest album wasn't good as the two, these guys bring back the old fashion progressive sound like Beardfish&Spock's Beard&etc (espcially for the vocals) And they are the progressive version of Led Zepplin in the millenium
         
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          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:05 AM (permalink)
          Good list to keep in mind for the next cd buying binge
          Gonna have to add space AGAIN in my dvd drawer for DT's newest one, between DT and all the MP drum dvds, space is getting hard to find
          Saw Symphony X  3 times (once in Madrid)last year and they're always great to see too.
           
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            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:47 PM (permalink)
            Some awesome reccomendatons.
             
            Love the fact that you mention Death and Cynic.
             
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              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:08 PM (permalink)

              ORIGINAL: TrueSagan

              Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.


              Me neither. They sound emo to me. I bought colours because everyone was having fits over it. I've never been able to make it through the whole album. I do like the drums though. Can't stand the singing, songs or guitars. Not my cuppa.

               
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                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:08 PM (permalink)
                Symphony X are a wicked live band, though I feel they have more in common with the old 80s heavy metal like Dio...
                 
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                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:24 PM (permalink)
                  Well well, thanks to this I have discovered Beardfish and they are quite a band to check out.
                  Thanks Mike. :)
                   
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                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:51 PM (permalink)


                    Yep, but you didn't mention the best band coming out of Sweden: SEVENTH WONDER !!


                    What about SCAR SYMMETRY?  By far my favorite recent discovery.


                    Indeed, Scar Symmetry is another Swedish gem. Their newest album, Holographic Universe is by far, my favorite album this year.

                    Agreed it's one awesome cd like their others , but I am enjoying the new Into Eternity.
                     
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                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:04 PM (permalink)

                      ORIGINAL: kevdog

                      Looks like I have to check out Beardfish and Anekdoten.


                       
                      You should certainly check out Beardfish.
                       
                      But - I'm sure MP would agree, its a different world. A different vibe. If you love the old style Hammond driven music, check out Beardfish, or even Rikard's other band; Bootcut.
                       
                      I can see the makings of a new Supergroup here. MP - Give Rikard a call ;)
                       
                       
                       
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                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:26 PM (permalink)
                        Well Mike... with summer drawing to a close it sounds as if you just might be starting to gear up and get back at it... back on July 11 you hinted that the first order of business would be the LTE DVD & CD  along with an Octerberish return to the studio for DT... you also hinted that either sometime 'before' or 'after', the next YTSEJAM batch might get some attention... Do you know yet if it will be a thumbs-up "Before"   or kind of a thumbs-down "After"  !!! Just wondering...!!! Hope your summer time off was a blast.
                         
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                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:50 AM (permalink)

                          ORIGINAL: nant

                          Well well, thanks to this I have discovered Beardfish and they are quite a band to check out.
                          Thanks Mike. :)


                          Same here. At the moment, my next batch of CDs on its way will include Phideaux's Doomsday Afternoon, The Tangent's Not as Good as the Book (with the book, I am an English major after all), and the Beardfish Sleeping in Traffic albums. A very exciting haul. I can't wait to send out for it. That's a lot of music, and great music at that.
                          The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.
                           
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                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:06 AM (permalink)

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                            Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


                            Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                             
                            Beardfish
                            Opeth
                            Pain Of Salvation
                            Anekdoten
                            The Flower Kings
                            Meshuggah
                            Yngwie Malmsteen
                             
                            Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                            MP 

                             
                            Glad to see you like the music from our country, I can only say I agree. Fact is I'm very proud to say just weeks ago I recorded in the Beardfish studio and both them and Scar Symmetry are from my hometown! Cool to see that people here know about them!
                            ~ And still you swim to save me.. even though the water is much colder now ~
                             
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                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:36 AM (permalink)

                              ORIGINAL: ricosuave


                              ORIGINAL: TrueSagan

                              Yeah, I would say those are the main prog bands of today, though personally I don't see the big deal with BtBaM.


                              Listen to everything BUT the vocals. Especially the guitars.


                              I have nothing against the vocals, i'm sure many people like them. It's the same with james probably, I'm sure many people would take BtBaM vocals over James any time. They're just not my style, I think they ruin the whole atmosphere of the songs. Spiral Architect did tech metal and still managed to have good wailing vocals. I like Akerfeldt's Opeth vocals a lot, for example, but they say a lot more to me than Tommy Rogers' vocals.

                              I'd rather take Circus Maximus as an important modern prog band over BtBaM. BtBaM has always come across as more of a hardcore/math metal band to me, than a progressive one.

                              For me, my main 5 favorite modern prog are DT, Opeth, Pagan's Mind, Ayreon and Blind Guardian (who are originally a power metal band but recently very progressive). In fact it's strange to me that Mike didn't mention Ayreon since he has so many albums out and it's such an elaborate and awesome project. I would say they are way way above even DT sometimes, just brilliant music and wonderfully produced.
                              <message edited by TrueSagan on Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:41 AM>
                               
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                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:17 AM (permalink)
                                WTF is "mathcore"? 
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                                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:07 AM (permalink)

                                  ORIGINAL: DTD

                                  WTF is "mathcore"? 


                                  It's like death metal but eeeeeeeeeeeeeven cheesier...
                                  The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.
                                   
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                                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:59 PM (permalink)
                                    So Mike has noticed Baroness as well... nice.
                                     
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                                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:25 PM (permalink)

                                      ORIGINAL: Chen Zen


                                      ORIGINAL: DTD

                                      WTF is "mathcore"? 


                                      It's like death metal but eeeeeeeeeeeeeven cheesier...


                                      BTBAM is referred to as "deathcore" on wikipedia, though.
                                       
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                                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:00 PM (permalink)

                                        BEARDFISH

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                                        Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


                                        Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                         
                                        Beardfish
                                        Opeth
                                        Pain Of Salvation
                                        Anekdoten
                                        The Flower Kings
                                        Meshuggah
                                        Yngwie Malmsteen
                                         
                                        Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                        MP 


                                        Thanks for the article!

                                        But...Dungen.  DUNGEN!
                                         
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                                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:05 PM (permalink)
                                          I have that issue!
                                           
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                                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:41 PM (permalink)
                                            Well said MP....
                                              
                                             
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                                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:55 PM (permalink)
                                              Oh...he mentioned Beardfish! SITT pt. 1 is one of the most wonderful 70´s-influenced-records i´ve ever heard! 
                                              beLIEve
                                               
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                                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Monday, September 01, 2008 7:54 PM (permalink)
                                                who am i to argue with The man himself, but Symphony x and Pain of Salvation under the same roots?

                                                isn't PoS more Beardfish as The Flower kings is?
                                                Sometimes you just don't know what to say.
                                                 
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                                                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:42 PM (permalink)

                                                  ORIGINAL: yitseyjamm


                                                  ORIGINAL: HomerJ


                                                  ORIGINAL: A Change of Stevens

                                                  On The Sunday of Life was released in 1991, two years before Radiohead's Pablo Honey and quite some time before Muse's debut.  Just who exactly is the roots of who?   


                                                  Porcupine Tree's late 90s material was clearly influenced by The Bends and OK Computer.  On the other hand, considering that Muse didn't hit the scene until '99, I don't see how in the world you could trace Porcupine Tree's roots to them.  I don't know anyone who has ever said that PT and Muse sound similar, anyway.


                                                  yeah i read that and i was like ... huh?


                                                  Yep.  Agreed.  Even their recent work really has very little connection to Muse.

                                                  And PT are just in a different league to Muse anyway.
                                                  New cover: Opeth- The Leper Affinity
                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNog74qiha8
                                                   
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                                                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Tuesday, September 02, 2008 7:30 PM (permalink)
                                                    yeah, i kinda agree with this last item, hail for including dillinger escape plan on try out
                                                     
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                                                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:23 PM (permalink)

                                                      Just wait 'till you hear the new Freak Kitchen album. The snippets I've heard are some of the best shizznizzle I've heard in a long time. They seem to be on a whole new level of awesomeness!


                                                       
                                                      Didn't know there was a new Freak Kitchen album on the way....
                                                      Sweet.    Have they announced an official release date yet?
                                                      Mattias "IA" Eklundh was the highlight of last year's ProgPower for me.  Speaking of awesomeness from Sweeden, check out Mattias Eklundh and Jonas Hellborg's Art Metal CD if you haven't already.
                                                       
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                                                        RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, September 05, 2008 11:16 AM (permalink)
                                                        Thanks Mike, willdefinately checkout Beardfish.
                                                         
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                                                          RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, September 05, 2008 2:06 PM (permalink)


                                                          ORIGINAL: Portnoy


                                                          ORIGINAL: EviLLivE

                                                          Wow. 2 Swedish bands.. Makes me proud.


                                                          Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                                           
                                                          Beardfish
                                                          Opeth
                                                          Pain Of Salvation
                                                          Anekdoten
                                                          The Flower Kings
                                                          Meshuggah
                                                          Yngwie Malmsteen
                                                           
                                                          Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                                          MP 



                                                          Not to quibble with The Man, but I'd just like to say that Kaipa belongs on any list of the best Swedish prog bands around right now. Their output since they got back together has been nothing short of magical, IMO.



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                                                            RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Friday, September 05, 2008 5:03 PM (permalink)


                                                            ORIGINAL: The Siamese Monster

                                                            Oh...he mentioned Beardfish! SITT pt. 1 is one of the most wonderful 70´s-influenced-records i´ve ever heard! 


                                                            This just arrived today. I'm liking it a lot, even though I haven't run across quite as much fun wildness like in Part 2, as I was hoping...
                                                            The problem is, or rather one of the problems, for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.
                                                             
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                                                              RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:19 PM (permalink)
                                                              nice, don't know some of these bands, so i'll check them!! thanks mp
                                                                
                                                               
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                                                                RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:21 PM (permalink)
                                                                Excellent! Hopefully there might be another cool bands out there that are not well recognized yet. Symphony X, Porcupine Tree and Pain of Salvation are my favorites.
                                                                 
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                                                                  RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Monday, September 08, 2008 11:12 AM (permalink)

                                                                  Actually, I mention 7 Swedish bands/artists if you read the whole article:
                                                                   
                                                                  Beardfish
                                                                  Opeth
                                                                  Pain Of Salvation
                                                                  Anekdoten
                                                                  The Flower Kings
                                                                  Meshuggah
                                                                  Yngwie Malmsteen
                                                                   
                                                                  Something must be in the water over there....some truly amazing talent coming from your country!

                                                                  MP

                                                                   
                                                                  Don't 4get "Meatloaf"......oh wait, that's meatballs my bad!
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                                                                    RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:34 PM (permalink)
                                                                    Porcupine Tree makes me feel the weight in my legs XD
                                                                    (Anesthetize is all)

                                                                    I never listen Opeth, better I hear some songs...
                                                                    Well, this is it!
                                                                    Stay Heavy Mike o/
                                                                     
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                                                                      RE: MP's Guide to Modern Prog for Metal Edge Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:35 PM (permalink)


                                                                      ORIGINAL: Casaroli

                                                                      who am i to argue with The man himself, but Symphony x and Pain of Salvation under the same roots?

                                                                      isn't PoS more Beardfish as The Flower kings is?



                                                                      Indeed, what do SX have to do with PoS? I'm surprised that only a few seem to have noticed this.. What were you thinking Mike??

                                                                      Anyway, I'm glad to see so many Swedish bands being mentioned, I guess you have a pretty decent taste after all
                                                                       
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