ORIGINAL: Nailed Reaper

ORIGINAL: Leeroy455
Please go read the previous pages and you will understand why the quality is what it is.

I know the thing about raw footage, I've read Mike's statements about it. I understand the idea, but I think it's VERY BAD idea. Why not just shoot some show in HD and make everyone happy? Are there any fans who like that horrible live footage from CIM more than Budokan and Score videos?

Again, re-read the pages or better yet, get it from MP himself here.
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/fb.aspx?m=2075270

BTW, welcome to the forum!

ORIGINAL: Rockettmeister

Very enjoyable dvd, especially the documentary stuff.

 
I fully agree, I've seen then live many times, so the documentary sections were by far my favorites.

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Yay, finally got my copy! Sure, Bestbuy canceled my preorder and shafted me outa 10 bucks (had to re-order from amazon)...

Anyways, audio is awesome, video is decent enough, music is amazing as usual, and the "phycho exercizes" JP is hilarious. :D

ORIGINAL: Nailed Reaper

ORIGINAL: Leeroy455
Please go read the previous pages and you will understand why the quality is what it is.

I know the thing about raw footage, I've read Mike's statements about it. I understand the idea, but I think it's VERY BAD idea. Why not just shoot some show in HD and make everyone happy? Are there any fans who like that horrible live footage from CIM more than Budokan and Score videos?

Because there's been 3 DVD's of one single show released in recent years. The idea was to do something different this time and document the whole tour. And I'd hardly call any of the live footage from CIM "horrible".

Is this CIM bashing ever going to end?

The idea was to do something different

Now they did. And it was a FAIL. Hope they'll return to the "1 show - 1 DVD" theme.

Is this CIM bashing ever going to end?

Even "Falling into Infinity" bashing isn't going to end, though 10 years have passed. Don't be naive, there will be a lot of opinions 'bout CIM. And not only positive, of course.

And I'd hardly call any of the live footage from CIM "horrible".

In comparison with "Live at Budokan" and "Score" it is.

CIM is awesome.


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got my copy last wednesday..just watch the documentary..description to each of the bands member to each other is really good..

"the third arrives..."

Tens of thousands of DT fans can now say that they were on a show that is featured on an oficial DT dvd. And the constant change of venues keeps it fresh throughout, it feels more dynamic. I'm not saying that I wouldn't rather have score quality, I didn't attend any of those shows anyway. I'm just saying that I understand and support what the band did with this. Anyway, the sound is great and the setlist couldn't be any better (not to mention the hilarious backstage footage) so it's well worth the price.

ORIGINAL: Nailed Reaper

The idea was to do something different

Now they did. And it was a FAIL. Hope they'll return to the "1 show - 1 DVD" theme.

Is this CIM bashing ever going to end?

Even "Falling into Infinity" bashing isn't going to end, though 10 years have passed. Don't be naive, there will be a lot of opinions 'bout CIM. And not only positive, of course.

And I'd hardly call any of the live footage from CIM "horrible".

In comparison with "Live at Budokan" and "Score" it is.

 
Oh, enough of this. Why you always have to bitch for the quality???
 
Please Mike, the next time that you will produce a DVD, ask all your fans, one by one, how "THEY" want it to be. Don't you ever think to do something without our opinion. Or else you will be fired from the band or burned into the boilers of hell. I think that you should also consider not to produce DVD's anymore. If you follow this way, you will maintain a "calmness" style in your life and you won't be anxious anymore.

I think Mike does a fantastic job listening to his fans. The past 3 DVDs (all of which are amazing) have all been essentially the same format. Mike chose to do something new this time and while I'll take Scenes, Budokan, or Score over Chaos In Motion any day of the week, I like how Mike changes things up to keep them interesting. Without a dynamic element of variety that drives each new release to be different, DT would has as much variety as DragonForce.

People who whine about the Quality of the Chaos in Motion DVD don't have my respect.

It's a tour DVD. Get over it

It is great for what it is. And the documentary is worth the price alone IMO.

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The idea was to stillk give us something even when they chose not to record a gig this time. It was either this or nothing. I take it a million times. If you don't, no one was forcing you to buy it. I knew what it would be like way before pre-ordering, so it wasn't like you couldn't research about it before buying. If you just grabbed it without knowing what it would look like, you only have yourself to blame, especially considering you have access to an internet connection. I always research about a product I want to buy before I do. I only buy things that I knoe I'll enjoy that way. You guys should too...

ORIGINAL: opethlord
The idea was to stillk give us something even when they chose not to record a gig this time. It was either this or nothing.

 
That doesn't make any sense at all. They recorded (i.e. filmed) MORE gigs than ever for this DVD.

Which songs were played in which cities?

I haven't picked this up yet...how is it compared to the other DT live releases?
I intend to grab it as soon as I have some extra cash...

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there are still a few songs that has a great quality of video. i think its forsaken? or the ministry of lost souls?
but, i still think that this DVD IS AWESOME!

ORIGINAL: kerby

there are still a few songs that has a great quality of video. i think its forsaken? or the ministry of lost souls?
but, i still think that this DVD IS AWESOME!

Cool, although honestly I'm more interested in the CDs than the DVDs...

I got no distance left to run... 

ORIGINAL: kerby

there are still a few songs that has a great quality of video. i think its forsaken? or the ministry of lost souls?
but, i still think that this DVD IS AWESOME!

The only songs that really look somewhat subpar are Surrounded and Blind Faith. Everything else looks good enough for me.

The best looking ones though, are Forsaken, Ministry, and Schmedley Wilcox. The latter is a pretty nice visual treat.

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ORIGINAL: kerby

there are still a few songs that has a great quality of video. i think its forsaken? or the ministry of lost souls?
but, i still think that this DVD IS AWESOME!

Cool, although honestly I'm more interested in the CDs than the DVDs...

i didn't got the 5 disc set. only got the dvds. because this was only sent to me by my dad who is in Canada. [im here in the Philippines]

but dont be let down of the negative comments on the video quality. it is still an awesome dvd.

Yeah the DVD quality is not really as bad as some people say. I mean, it's not like it got shot with a cellphone or anything.

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ORIGINAL: Epitaph04

Yeah the DVD quality is not really as bad as some people say. I mean, it's not like it got shot with a cellphone or anything.

exactly.
its almost the same as 5YIALT. but nobody complained about 5YIALT [i think].

ORIGINAL: DTChemist

ORIGINAL: kerby

there are still a few songs that has a great quality of video. i think its forsaken? or the ministry of lost souls?
but, i still think that this DVD IS AWESOME!

Cool, although honestly I'm more interested in the CDs than the DVDs...

?!?!?! WHAAAAAT?? Dude, the documentry is fantastic

MP: Do you guys know how long it took to find a gravestone with the name Victoria Page, and the dates 1905-1928 on it?! Took us months!

ORIGINAL: kerby
exactly.
its almost the same as 5YIALT. but nobody complained about 5YIALT [i think].

 
5YIALT was a VHS release originally. It's perfectly understandable that people would expect more from a DVD
(and yes, some shots during Blind Faith approach mobile phone camera level in terms of picture quality).

Yeah the BF and Surrounded shows are a little..ehh...and it's too bad because there's some great ambience during those songs. But oh wells...I still like em.

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ORIGINAL: kerby
exactly.
its almost the same as 5YIALT. but nobody complained about 5YIALT [i think].

5YIALT was a VHS release originally. It's perfectly understandable that people would expect more from a DVD
(and yes, some shots during Blind Faith approach mobile phone camera level in terms of picture quality).

aaah. i did not know that.

If you had to pay 70 bucks for it i can understand the disapointment. And it's not that clear from the information of the product what kind of video/production quality it is

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ORIGINAL: dreamon

Now obviously the CD version of Surrounded has been recorded at another venue than the DVD version. I wonder where... Anyone??

Dunno.  I do prefer the CD version over the DVD version (primarily because of JP's extended solo).  Both are great, just different. 

Scott

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