The last Woodstock was in 99 - It was berserk with the fans and all but not all the music was lame.

Would anybody go, or order it if their was a new one? Do you think their should be another one or do you think it would be another massacre overtake of the fans?

I don' t think this generation can handle that kind of event, as was proven by the last Woodstock.

It would be great if people could act like human beings but you get a few animals and scum of the earth that decide to rape people, set fires, and trash the place and once again " they" ruin it for everyone. I for one do not feel feel safe at all in that type of environment.

hum in fact, the woodstock edition in 1999 was very commercial with a lot of sponsors everywhere.
So... maybe a new Woodstock with Dream Theater and a 3 hours long solo of John Petrucci..

If there is another one, its definitly not going to be in Rome, NY again (thanks to what happened at the end of the the 1999 one).

I live about 15 minutes outside of rome (close enough to hear the music faintly). I didn' t go though.

I seriously doubt there will ever be another one. Fans wanted too much, promoters gave too little. High ticket and concession prices proved to be the downfall of the festival. The concession prices seemed to take advantage of peopel needing food for three days and not being able to bring their own.

I was there. I was there with four other female friends. I loved every minute of it. Except for all the nude OLD men! The only time I got a little scared was at the end. Those fires were scary and no one was doing anything about them. People started knocking down the peace wall too. At that point we decided it was time to get out. So, we came home. What an experience. I don' t regret going at all. I honestly think that if the vendors weren' t so expensive the outcome would of been different. It wasn' t just the crowd that was at fault for what happened. Capitalism caught up with the atmosphere of Woodstock.



that' s the peace wall @ woodstock99. Unfortunately, that wall ended up coming down too.

I don' t regret going at all. I honestly think that if the vendors weren' t so expensive the outcome would of been different. It wasn' t just the crowd that was at fault for what happened. Capitalism caught up with the atmosphere of Woodstock.

So basically, if the prices weren' t so high, people wouldn' t have trashed the place?? C' mon, that' s rediculous. It wasn' t the crowds fault!? So I guess it wasn' t Osama' s fault all those people died either. (an extreme comparison, I know, but saying the same thing)

There should have never been a SECOND one.

ORIGINAL: Mike

I don' t regret going at all. I honestly think that if the vendors weren' t so expensive the outcome would of been different. It wasn' t just the crowd that was at fault for what happened. Capitalism caught up with the atmosphere of Woodstock.

So basically, if the prices weren' t so high, people wouldn' t have trashed the place?? C' mon, that' s rediculous. It wasn' t the crowds fault!? So I guess it wasn' t Osama' s fault all those people died either. (an extreme comparison, I know, but saying the same thing)

Mike, were you there? Do you know first hand what happened? Or are you assuming it due to the media and what you have heard and read?

I was there thru the whole thing. I am and have first hand information without the nonsense of the press being involved. Alcohol, drugs, sex, nudity, free love was all over the place. So was the lack of food and water. People were passing out from the heat. Water was not readily available. I can go on and on about the situation. Capitalism killed the 3rd Woodstock.

Maybe the nudity of all the old men is what caused it?

OK, as for Osama, yes, I think it was his fault. BUT, I also think our foreign policies need to be addressed as to why 9/11 happened..

ORIGINAL: GuitarGod1036

There should have never been a SECOND one.

I' ll second that!

Mike, were you there? Do you know first hand what happened? Or are you assuming it due to the media and what you have heard and read?

I was there thru the whole thing. I am and have first hand information without the nonsense of the press being involved. Alcohol, drugs, sex, nudity, free love was all over the place. So was the lack of food and water. People were passing out from the heat. Water was not readily available. I can go on and on about the situation. Capitalism killed the 3rd Woodstock.

Maybe the nudity of all the old men is what caused it?

I was not there first hand, but had close friends who were. Hell, if I saw naked old man, I might start burning things to!

I guess what I was trying to say was capitalism is not the only thing to blame here. People need to take responsibility for their actions. My friedns were there, like you. They were hot/tired/thirsty/etc like everyone else. But they managed to leave without burning a table, or tearing down a Peace Wall. It takes two to tango.

I' m sorry but charging between $5 and $10 for a 12 oz. bottle of water is obscene and should be illegal. The people there to make money off of people who were passing out in the 95 degree heat are the reason that half of the Air Force base went up in flames.

ORIGINAL: TFMP

ORIGINAL: GuitarGod1036

There should have never been a SECOND one.

I' ll second that!

Third! There was only one Woodstock. These wannabes can call their festivals whatever they want, but the true spirit of Woodstock will never be repeated. The times were different; the people were different. Most of all, it was a chance happening. NO ONE expected or planned what happened in 1969. It was the result of many factors that no longer exist.

PLEASE call your next attempt something else:

Us, We, Them, Assholes, whatever...but NOT Woodstock.

This crap that has attempted to call itself Woodstock since the original has only served to drive this point home:

IT HAPPENED. YOU DIDN' T DO IT. YOU CAN' T DO IT. PLEASE STOP TRYING!

Thank you and please drive thru.

Well put, Walt.

But, Walt, we must. We must take the old ideas that were good and pure and bastardize them to fit my generation' s outlook and capitalize on my generation' s desire for peace and love, mischief, setting things on fire, gangraping and cookie cutter image-based pop culture with no message or substance or originality, while simultaneously maximizing profits and media visibility, so we can do it all again every few years so that the original event completely loses its meaning.

Keep it goin' here kids, everyone' s hitting them out of the ballpark on this topic.

ORIGINAL: WaltS

There was only one Woodstock.

Were you there?

If you were, it would explain an awful lot!

Strangely enough, I think the " Woodstock" in ' 94 was really great. No, it wasn;t spontaneous or unplanned like ' 69, but it was the first time the modern generation had any type of experience like that. Since so may people really had no idea what to expect, I think it was a very respectable event.

Thw whole Woodstock thing has just become a commercial joke for money making and ' coolness' . The true ' spirit' of Woodstock is alive and well with the Bonnaroo Festival. It was a huge hit last year, and was named festival/concert of the year by several publications. They are set to make annoncements for this year' s Bonnaroo any day now. If anyone' s interested, check out more info at:

http://www.bonnaroo.com

and, yes, i do think there should be another one and it should be called woodstock.

the first one was promoted and planned out. No one thought it was going to be so big. It was, and it set a precedent for a 3 day outdoor concert with lots of great bands.

The promoters of all three woodstocks got a little too greedy this time. An internet cafe was in this woodstock. Rave parties were promoted at night. The same free loving hippies of the 69 woodstock were the same people trying to capitilise on woodstock99.

I had a great time. I was prepared, we brought a van with a huge cooler with everything we needed. We were' nt allowed to bring anything in, but, we were allowed to come and go as we pleased. Every half hour someone would remind us to drink water or get out of the sun over the pa system.

The whole experience was very worth it. We were five females and nothing happened to us. A lot of guys asked for our pic and the " show us your tits" got us annoyed at times. But we felt safe, until the very end. We thought the fires were part of the show at the end. The Chili Peppers thought so too.. OMG, Flea nekkid, on stage!

Our plans were to hang out that night. We ended up coming home. It is a shame that such a small number of people left woodstock99 with such a bad name. I had a great time. I was there to see the bands, and was not disappointed.

They should do another woodstock. And it should be called woodstock. Every tradition has to start somewhere.

ORIGINAL: LuLu

...The same free loving hippies of the 69 woodstock were the same people trying to capitilise on woodstock99...

And who, exactly, are you talking about? Michael Lang? John Roberts? Who? If you mean the promoters were of the right age to have been the same people, that' s a far cry from them being the same people.

Edit: I am disappointed to report that I just found out that one of the four 1969 promoters, Michael Lang, was in fact, involved in the 1999 fiasco...disturbing.

...They should do another woodstock. And it should be called woodstock. Every tradition has to start somewhere...

Yes, every tradition has to start somewhere. But not everything that happens should be turned into a tradition. Some things are sacred just because of how they came about or the way they changed or in some way affected the lives they touched. Woodstock...the one and only Woodstock...is one of those things.

Well, it was inevitable that I' d start poking around and reading and thinking about Woodstock once again after having seen this thread. Indeed, it was the people, and the times in which they were living, that made it what it was. Not the promoters. They only started it, but had little to no control over what it would develop into. To borrow from Dickens, " It was the best of times; it was the worst of times" .

In my search for info on the ill-fated 94 and 99 ripoffs, though, I came across this little gem at usmusicvault.com. Sound familiar?

A lot of questions have been raised in the aftermath of “Woodstock ‘99”. Not many answers are truly forthcoming, but one thing is pretty sure: don’t hold your breath for Woodstock ‘04. We should have learned long ago that, as Tom Wolfe said, “You can’t go home again.” The true Woodstock was a glorious event that happened at a particular moment in time, with all things positive converging on that tiny upstate NY burg. Chances are it will never happen again. If some promoter has the balls to try and arrange a major event like this, let’s be honest and call it “Romestock” or “Laughingstock” for that matter. But “Woodstock”? At an air force base hundreds of miles away from the namesake town itself? With malls and ATMs? Let’s not even try, ok? Look at the consequences.

Michael Lang is trying to put a woodstock04 together. He wasn' t the only one from the original woodstock that was involved in the last 2. Some of those companies that were in there, are run by the hippies (or as the old timers call them now " yuppies" ) of the 69 woodstock.

Anyone that is looking for a great time, with lots of music, should consider going.


As to what they call it, does it matter? Yes, somethings are sacred. But, aren' t the best compliments, when we try to imitate and recreate. I was there for the music and wasn' t disappointed with that part of the festival.

ORIGINAL: LuLu

...As to what they call it, does it matter? Yes, somethings are sacred. But, aren' t the best compliments, when we try to imitate and recreate...

Angie, I couldn' t agree more on that last point. However, I think it DOES matter what future festivals are called, as well as how they are portrayed. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Is that not what you allude to? Fine, then. Imitate, but don' t attempt to plagarize one of the most significant musical and social events of our time.

Nothing should be advertised as Woodstock because nothing ever will be again.