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Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:33 PM
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The December 2005 issue of Guitar World magazine (web site) contains an exclusive, in-depth interview with former PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott. In the 10-page cover story (view cover here), Vinnie speaks for the first time about Dimebag's murder, the possibility of a PANTERA reunion prior to Dimebag's death, Vinnie's future plans as a musician, and his favorite memories of Dimebag, among many other topics. A few excerpts from the chat follow:

Guitar World: Dime had a reputation for hard living and hard drinking, but what's less known is that he had a serious side and could be remarkably focused. What are some instances in which you saw this side of him?

Vinnie Paul: "Throughout his career, he was always really focused on everything. Toward the end, about a year before all this happened, he really started to develop the business side of himself. He was so proud of his new line of guitars with Dean Guitars and his new amp with Krank Amplification. He probably took that stuff more seriously than anything. He didn't want his name on a piece of shit. He wanted it to be on something that was special, so when somebody got it, they went, 'Wow, this is the best guitar I've ever picked up,' or this is the most kick-ass sounding amp I've ever played.' Dime was all over it with both companies, and that was something I was so proud of him for.

"Some people have this misconception that the dude was loaded 24/7, but he wasn't. He'd do it when he felt like he needed to do it, and then he would back off for two or three days. In truth, we never really did that much drinking before we went onstage. We'd do two or three shots, just enough to get loosened up, and then mayne a couple more while we were playing. It was when we were done playing, after we'd kick everybody's fucking ass and given them everything they came for, that's when the booze would really start to flow. That's when it was time to take the roof off the fucking place."

Guitar World: In 1996, PANTERA released their darkest and most underrated album, "The Great Southern Trendkill". What's the story behind that album?

Vinnie Paul: "That was the most difficult record we ever made. We weren't falling apart, but the band was starting to go in different directions. Philip [Anselmo, PANTERA vocalist] had some well-publicized personal issues, and that made for a really dark record. At the same time, LIMP BIZKIT was blowing up and rap metal was coming in. There was a whole new scene, and people were like, 'What's PANTERA gonna do? Are they gonna do rap metal, too?' We just wanted to make the ultimate, abrasive album the industry's ever gotten. That was our response. It was the first record we made that declined in sales, but it's a platinum record today, so you can't say it wasn't successful. When it came out then, it was probably our most misunderstood record, but today I see posts on the Internet all the time saying, ''Trendkill' is my favorite album. Goddamn, that record broke the mold.' Well, too bad it took you nine fucking years to realize what we were trying to accomplish at the time! [laughs]"

Guitar World: Tell me about "Reinventing the Steel", which turned out to be the final PANTERA album.

Vinnie Paul: "I think that, next to 'Vulgar', that's probably the best record we made. By the time we made it, in 2000, everything had totally changed and music was — and still is — in a total shambles. So we wanted to make a straightforward, anthemic metal record. We wanted to keep the songs as fresh as we could, with old-school roots and new-school traits, and I think we did a really good job on it. I mean, 'Revolution Is My Name' is probably one of the best songs we ever wrote. The guitar riffs and parts Dime came up with are fucking phenomenal. There's probably five songs in that one song!"

Guitar World: PANTERA's breakup was instigated in part by the events of 9/11. Explain what happened.

Vinnie Paul: "That was pretty insane. We flew to Ireland out of JFK [International Airport] just 10 to 12 hours before that happened, man. We landed, got off the plane and people had all these terrible looks on their faces and we didn't know what the hell was going on. We just got this really weird vibe. We just felt that the best thing for us to do was cancel our European Tattoo the Earth tour with SLAYER and go home. We didn't know who was going to get attacked next. We were stranded there for, like, 10 days, and when we finally got back to Dallas, we just said, 'Hey, let's take a little break from this.' "

Guitar World: A lot of people in the metal community had been hoping PANTERA would get back together one day.

Vinnie Paul: "Let's make this clear once and for all: for any fan out there that believed any of the bullshit said by certain people, there never was going to be a PANTERA reunion, ever. If you were married to somebody for 15 or 16 years and they treated you the way we got treated, you don't go back to them, and we weren't going to do that. When we put DAMAGEPLAN together, we were done with PANTERA, but we wanted to respect the fans that loved the band. We felt as bad for them as we felt for ourselves, but we had nothing to do with it going sideways, and we gave every effort we could to keep it together."

Guitar World: Dime always insisted that DAMAGEPLAN was the real deal and not just a side project.

Vinnie Paul: "Damn straight. It was hard to let go of PANTERA and say, 'That's it. I'm done with this. I'm moving on.' Shit, that was the only life we'd ever known. After suffering what I call the defeat of PANTERA, being knocked down to nothing and having to get back up and go again when you're not 19 or 20 years old is one hell of a fucking effort, and me and Dime put everything into DAMAGEPLAN. And trust me, it took everything we had, and we dug as deep as we could. We were going for it and nothing was gonna stop us from getting there. It was just like in the early days.

"Before all of this happened, we'd already written and recorded for the second DAMAGEPLAN record. From where I stood, it looked to me like our first record, 'New Found Power', was our 'Cowboys from Hell', and the second record was gonna be our 'Vulgar Display of Power' — the record that pushed us over the top and put us on the same plateau as PANTERA. And that's what people wanted from us. Our record label was 100 percent behind us, but unfortunately we never got to see the light at the end of the tunnel, because of what happened."

Guitar World: Will those DAMAGEPLAN demos ever see the light of day?

Vinnie Paul: "Right now I'm still too flipped out to even go in the studio. I've been down there a time or two and it just wigs me completely out. But I guarantee you at some point I will do something with those tracks. Either I'll have some of Dime's favorite singers sing on 'em and turn them into jams, or maybe Pat [Lachman, DAMAGEPLAN vocalist] will sing on them and it'll be 'Damageplan II'. I don't know yet. Right now they're magic that hopefully someday everybody will get to hear, and as long I'm around, I think eventually they will get heard."

Guitar World: What else can you tell us about the night Dime was killed?

Vinnie Paul: "All I want to say right now is that things like this happen to people and sometimes, after six or eight months go by, people begin to talk and they learn more about what happened. I have a hard time believing that some nut-job just shot the best friend that I ever had for no reason. So I'd like to spread the message to anybody out there, that if you know or hear anything about it, please contact the authorities and let 'em know what you know. I just believe that there's something else out there that motivated this guy to do this. And if there is, I hope they get to the bottom of it, 'cause it's something that should've never, ever happened. It's ruined my life and it's taken away so much joy and happiness from so many people. I guess what I'm trying to find is an answer for why this happened. There has to be an answer somewhere, and I hope it comes out someday. I'll leave it at that.

"We also lost another great brother and a great friend, Mayhem [Jeffrey Thompson, bodyguard], that night. He and Dime were really close, and I know wherever they are they're together still. Also I want to send my condolences and heartfelt sorrow to the families and friends of the other two victims, Nathan Bray and Erin Halk.

"I know that Dime will live on forever, though, just like Jimi Hendrix and Randy Rhoads. It just happened way too goddamned soon. The music we made together will be around forever, but the thing that kills me is that we'll never get to do it again. We had so much more that we were gonna put out, and I know that, wherever he is, Dime's real dissatisfied that he didn't get to finish his mission."

Guitar World: Do you know what you plan to do next as a musician?

Vinnie Paul: "I've got to find the right situation. I'm not going to jump into anything, though, because I'm only just now getting to where I can wake up in the morning and just fucking breathe without having a million thoughts going through my mind. By no means will I ever be at peace with what happened, but at least I'm getting to where I can deal with it."



 
Wow.  I knew he was broken up, but I had no idea how much he was still hurting.  Also interesting what he said about a Pantera reunion.  I think he's right...  it never would have happened.  Too much bad blood.  Even if they had all reconciled, that still doesn't mean it wouldn't have been "weird".
 
I really feel for this guy.  Best of luck in the future, bro, and I hope to hear you playing on something else some day.  It'd be a damn shame to let that pistol-packing shithead extinguish 2 world-class talents.
 
RIP Dime 
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:02 PM
Hard to blame the poor guy. I always start to get angry when I think about what happened, but because there is nothing I can do about it, I end up feeling empty instead of angry, and that's a lousy feeling as well.
 
Anyway...
 
I found it interesting that he ranks Reinventing The Steel so highly. Other than "Goddamn Electric", that album gets the fewest spins from me (as far as Cowboys and beyond that is). Personally, I like Far Beyond Driven the best. But hey, it's all good.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:11 PM
Vinnie is a great guy, but this interview makes it seem as though he still hates Phil. It's time to get over Phil, Vinnie.
Brainwash yourself out of that mind control.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:30 PM
its such a shame...such a shame...
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:31 PM

ORIGINAL: Explosivo

Vinnie is a great guy, but this interview makes it seem as though he still hates Phil. It's time to get over Phil, Vinnie.

 
where do u get that from?? i think Phil is the least of his problems...
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:37 PM

ORIGINAL: The Betterfly


ORIGINAL: Explosivo

Vinnie is a great guy, but this interview makes it seem as though he still hates Phil. It's time to get over Phil, Vinnie.


where do u get that from?? i think Phil is the least of his problems...

 
I actually don't know what Vinnie is refferring ot in the interview when he talks about the break-up of Pantera. First he says they decided to take a break when they got back to DAllas after 9/11, then he's talking about being treated like shit but I don't what he's talking about.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:52 PM
Wow great interview, emotional to say the least...
i´m not that familiar with Pantera and even Damageplan but the interview made me cry...
it reallys shows that he left a big void in the lives of the people around him...
Dime will always be missed...
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:02 PM
wow, I can't wait to read the entire article.  I feel so sorry for Vinnie, I can't imagine seeing that happen to my brother.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:24 PM
such a fucking shame, i cried when i heard what had happend that day. i would really like to hear those last few recordings, that would be the ultimate tribute.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:01 PM

Vinnie Paul: "All I want to say right now is that things like this happen to people and sometimes, after six or eight months go by, people begin to talk and they learn more about what happened. I have a hard time believing that some nut-job just shot the best friend that I ever had for no reason. So I'd like to spread the message to anybody out there, that if you know or hear anything about it, please contact the authorities and let 'em know what you know. I just believe that there's something else out there that motivated this guy to do this. And if there is, I hope they get to the bottom of it, 'cause it's something that should've never, ever happened. It's ruined my life and it's taken away so much joy and happiness from so many people. I guess what I'm trying to find is an answer for why this happened. There has to be an answer somewhere, and I hope it comes out someday. I'll leave it at that.

Anybody else think this quote is a little weird? It was just some nut-job, and said nut-job is dead. Does anybody else think there was some conspiracy? Maybe it would be better for Vince's mental state to accept that, instead of looking for a reason. There wasn't a reason, it was a senseless thing. I feel so bad for the guy. I met him once at a Damageplan show, and he's a great dude. Dime wasn't feeling well that night, so I didn't get to meet him, and I regret that.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:56 PM



I'd only say... god bless dime and vinnie


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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:13 PM
The Dime legacy is STRONGER THAN ALL !!!!
 
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:59 PM



oh vinnie, you're a strong one
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:09 PM

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Vinnie Paul: "All I want to say right now is that things like this happen to people and sometimes, after six or eight months go by, people begin to talk and they learn more about what happened. I have a hard time believing that some nut-job just shot the best friend that I ever had for no reason. So I'd like to spread the message to anybody out there, that if you know or hear anything about it, please contact the authorities and let 'em know what you know. I just believe that there's something else out there that motivated this guy to do this. And if there is, I hope they get to the bottom of it, 'cause it's something that should've never, ever happened. It's ruined my life and it's taken away so much joy and happiness from so many people. I guess what I'm trying to find is an answer for why this happened. There has to be an answer somewhere, and I hope it comes out someday. I'll leave it at that.

Anybody else think this quote is a little weird? It was just some nut-job, and said nut-job is dead. Does anybody else think there was some conspiracy? Maybe it would be better for Vince's mental state to accept that, instead of looking for a reason. There wasn't a reason, it was a senseless thing. I feel so bad for the guy. I met him once at a Damageplan show, and he's a great dude. Dime wasn't feeling well that night, so I didn't get to meet him, and I regret that.


I don't think it's that weird.  It sounds like a guy who is greiving.  When my mom died, I looked for reasons and people to blame because if it was someone's fault, then I could focus my feelings on something other than losing her and my own pain.  Denial is one of the steps.  So is acceptance.  It just takes a long ass time to get there, and the road there is a damn rocky one. 


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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:17 AM
Wow, that was really deep... I had no idea Vinnie was still so shook up.  This was a serious blow to the music world 
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:28 AM
Poor guy, I cant imagine what his going through, I mean, nobody expected this. It sucks to know that the guy who was always there besides you, is no longer there. Anyway, it feels weird everytime I see a picture of Dimebag in the cover of some magazine and it reads "Dimebag Darrell 1966-2004", god cant imagine, he's no longer with us. Vinnie, gotta be strong, and our prayers are with you. Good luck bro.
 
And Dime, rest in peace and we hope we will meet someday.
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:52 AM

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Vinnie Paul: "All I want to say right now is that things like this happen to people and sometimes, after six or eight months go by, people begin to talk and they learn more about what happened. I have a hard time believing that some nut-job just shot the best friend that I ever had for no reason. So I'd like to spread the message to anybody out there, that if you know or hear anything about it, please contact the authorities and let 'em know what you know. I just believe that there's something else out there that motivated this guy to do this. And if there is, I hope they get to the bottom of it, 'cause it's something that should've never, ever happened. It's ruined my life and it's taken away so much joy and happiness from so many people. I guess what I'm trying to find is an answer for why this happened. There has to be an answer somewhere, and I hope it comes out someday. I'll leave it at that.

Anybody else think this quote is a little weird? It was just some nut-job, and said nut-job is dead. Does anybody else think there was some conspiracy? Maybe it would be better for Vince's mental state to accept that, instead of looking for a reason. There wasn't a reason, it was a senseless thing. I feel so bad for the guy. I met him once at a Damageplan show, and he's a great dude. Dime wasn't feeling well that night, so I didn't get to meet him, and I regret that.


I don't think it's that weird.  It sounds like a guy who is greiving.  When my mom died, I looked for reasons and people to blame because if it was someone's fault, then I could focus my feelings on something other than losing her and my own pain.  Denial is one of the steps.  So is acceptance.  It just takes a long ass time to get there, and the road there is a damn rocky one. 


Sarah


I agree with your comment about Vinnie grieving.  It hasn't even been one year since he saw his best friend and brother murdered in addition to three other people.  He isn't going to get over it anytime soon (if ever) and I'm sure he's had days where he comes to terms with what happened and then the very next day he could be asking "why?" 

The whole tragedy is surreal for me and I wasn't even there, I can't imagine how I would handle losing a loved one like that in such a horrendous manner.  When you're just completely shattered emotionally, you try to find some sort of reason for it and sometimes the truth just isn't enough.  Our emotions and sense of logic rarely work  well together after major tragedies. 

It's a sickening shame that Dime, Mayhem and those two fans were murdered. 
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RE: Vinnie Paul Speaks - Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:09 AM
I respect Vinnie immensely for his comments here, especially in respect to having to deal with loss - his answers are incredibly rational considering what has happened.

I'm glad he's at least brought himself back to give this interview. I have always digged his catchy, heavy drumming style and I hope that he can get back to doing some new music again very soon.

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